Zvon wrote: Edgy MD wrote: The main reason to go to Familia is if you are operating under the philosophical position that you've already burned him by warming him up. I don't buy that. Warm ups are stress free pitches. There's a difference with in-game pitches. He should have gotten the night off unless it was impossible. And don't mind me cause truth is I have nothing to complain about. I'm not saying I do, either. But there's plenty who do think that once you've warmed up, it's become a pitching day for you. Whitey Herzog's position was that, if he warmed you up twice but didn't put you in, head for the showers and join us in the dugout after. Your work day is done.