Frayed Knot

Yanx at Fenway already called off. Don't have high hopes for this one.

BRAVES KTE -- Apr 25-27 6-12 for the young season; 65 RS / 85 RA Started out by losing 6 of 8 to start the year, then won four straight to open their new stadium (helps that it was against the Padres) but now are on a six game losing streak again (WAS & PHI) even though most of the losses were close games. Kinda like us in other words. Matt Kemp was on the DL between our first series and this one but now is back to kick our butts again. No other major injuries ... kinda NOT like us in other words. Bullpen ERA is 5.19 Freddie [7 HRs w/a 1303 OPS], Tyler Flowers, Brandon Phillips and Kemp are all hitting; Swanson at SS, Garcia at 3B and CF Ender Inciarte not so much Tuesday 7:10 (or at sometime apres le deluge) — Gsellman vs Julio Teheran [4 starts; 1-1; 3.52; 1.43] Most of Teheran’s bad stats are from getting thumped by the Nats in his last start. Been good otherwise including when he shut us out for 6 innings on opening day before we got to the bullpen Wednesday 7:10 - Syndergaard vs RA Dickey [3 starts; 1-2; 3.86; 1.39] Didn't see RA in the earlier series. He was hit hard by the Pirates in first start, two reasonably good starts since Thursday 1:10 — Harvey vs Bartolo Colon [4 starts; 1-2; 4.50; 1.08] Held us to 2 hits over 6 on April 5. One good, one bad, and one mediocre start otherwise.

bmfc1 wrote: I would think that the Mets would welcome a rainout. The Braves don't return until September 25. Which means they'll either try to make it up on Wednesday (Braves aren't going to want to play two on a get-away day - they head to Milwaukee for a Friday game) or find a mutual off-day sometime this summer. But neither side (or the league for that matter) is going to want to put off a makeup until the final week of the season. Come to think of it, neither team is going to want to play a Wednesday DH followed by a day-game Thursday either. But, hey, the weather forecast is only showing temps in the 50s with Rain & Wind starting around noon today and going straight through to Wednesday morning ... so I think there may be a window!!

Frayed Knot wrote: Nats bullpen in 2017 prior to the NYM series: 42 IP, 28 runs allowed on 49 Hits including 10 HRs and 17 XBH, plus 17 walks Nats bullpen vs NYM: 7 scoreless and hitless innings w/2 walks And then tack on one more scoreless / 1-hit inning to the above. But it turns out that the Rockies can hit the Nats pen as tonight they smacked around all the guys we couldn't touch. Romero: 2 runs allowed in 2/3 of an inning Treinen: 3 runs on 6 hits in 1/3 In all the Rox scored 2 in the 6th, 2 in the 7th, and 3 in the 8th to lead 8-4

If the Mets wait another couple of weeks to call him up, the Mets will have Rosario under their control through 2023. If they wait another 12 months, plus a week or two, they'll have him under control through 2024. You're mixing up arbitration eligibility with FA eligibility. The qualifications for each are different. FA requires six full seasons of ML service time with a full year of service time defined by anything within I think it's 12 days of a full year. The full ML season is, for accounting purposes, 182 days long and players get a day's worth of credit for every day they're up with the big boys. So if Rosario were to be called up tomorrow and never spend another day in the minors he'd end the 2022 season with 5 full years of service time and about 20 days short of his sixth, but it might as well be 150 days short because, either way, he won't qualify for FA-gency until the end of 2023 Arbitration is different in that while everyone with three years of ST qualifies and no one with only two years does, about 1/6 of those* with more than 2 but less than 3 also qualify, obviously the percentage of those with the most. So 2 years plus 150 days guarantees it and 2 years plus only a handful doesn't, those in between are in the gray area with no set amount since it depends on how they compare to each other. If the Mets are going to turn to Rosario because Asdrubal goes down or something I don't think the arb situation would matter to them much. The FA date is different as in what the Cubs did with Kris Bryant a few years back deciding that he needed more "seasoning" until calling him up on April 17, 2015. That move pissed Scott Boras off to no end and everyone knew what the Cubs were up to with their decision that he "wasn't ready" on opening day, but there was nothing they could do about it. FA is obviously the much bigger deal. All delaying Arb does is make the theoretical Year 3 contract less expensive by keeping it under direct team control. And while that's not something those in charge of budgets want to ignore, it has no effect on how long a team can control the player and really only affects the salary for that one year, and even that can be negated by a long-term deal buying out the arb years if the player is any good or not caring if he turns out to suck. * I think they altered this slightly in the last CBA, so that pct may not be exact. oe: it's now 22% - so say if in a given year there were 50 players with > 2 but < 3 years of service time, the 11 with the most time would be arb-elgible regardless of exactly when they were first called up or how they accumulated that time

Lefty Specialist wrote: Ashie62 wrote: Amed Rosario has 72 PA at Vegas and is hitting .402. He plays shortstop. A tempting morsel for the Panic City crowd. At the very least they wouldn't bring him up before the super-two deadline passes, whenever that is. There is no specific deadline or cut-off for arbitration purposes because it depends on the status of all players in his same category. In Rosario's case (assuming a 2017 call-up) it would depend on how his service time compares to all those in the >2 but < 3 year boat at the end of 2019. Generally if a team is going to make a call-up decision based on trying to delay future arb-eligibility by a year they'll wait until at least the first week in June. It's not a guarantee but it puts you closer to the safe zone. Beyond just his BA, almost all of Rosario's hits (23 of 27) have been singles so far. In fact they all were until just a few days ago but I see where he's tacked on 3 doubles and a triple lately. He also has just 3 walks in 72 PA and still less than 350 ABs above A-ball

For the record, neither our SIGN MURPHY NOW discussion nor the inevitable MEMORIES OF MURPHY thread were chock full of "Go git 'em Sandy!" comments. We weren't exactly in the Gary Cohen "Net negative" camp and I think many of us would have been OK with the deal he eventually got [3 years - $37.5 mil] - but the feeling at the time seemed to be that it would take longer or higher (or both) to keep him and some wanted nothing more offered beyond the minimum 'Qualifying Offer' with a handful of 'don't let the door hit you ...' asides thrown in.

Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit chugging bourbon straight from the bottle.

Go ahead ESPN, just try to make me watch 'First Take'!!

Fman99 wrote: Wheeler gets through 6 IP at less than 100 pitches thrown. Nice to see progress there, especially after the first inning doodie fest. 92 thru 6 so this is almost certainly his last inning even if he goes 1-2-3 Unfortunately, Scherzer's on an even better pitch count - 78

Zvon wrote: Frayed Knot wrote: That didn't look fair to me. I didn't think it was but no one even questioned it. Cabrera questioned the home plate about it because it's his call until the ball reaches 1st base (which it never did) and those calls aren't reviewable.

41Forever wrote: Conforto ain't going back to Vegas any time soon. It's up to him at this point to not only make himself indispensable to the roster but also to the starting lineup. Make it so that someone has to take a spot away from you.

That didn't look fair to me.

Conforto now 5-fer-11 career vs Scherzer .... even if those last two haven't exactly been shots.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: I mean, he's at, like, 70 pitches through 4, but that's our Wheeler. A quick 5th though gets him to 77 thru 5, just a shade above the 15/per standard and more or less where you'd like to see him. Certainly could get him through two more if things don't go all pear-shaped.

Zvon wrote: There is a game on though, isn't there? As I've explained before, ESPN isn't televising a baseball game they're running an episode of their weekly TV show, and if that happens to involve showing you pieces of the game well then that'll be a nice coincidence.

So other than the first inning, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the game?

Well, we've got at least one reason to not be TOO down today as the Pirates tried really, really, really hard to blow their game vs the Yanx this afternoon but were able to justbarely not suck at sucking and held on to the 2-1 win. I mean they hit into 3 DPs to end innings, two other times they loaded the bases with no outs and scored a total of one run out of those situations, then blew a potential game-ending GiDP by muffing the ball and getting neither out so that now the Yanx had a bases-loaded/one-out deal which I was sure they were going to cash in but didn't. Pitt wound up taking two of three which was the first series this year that they didn't either sweep or get swept.

I suspect it'll be back to ESPN's standard SNB crew of Schulman, Mendoza, Boone - meaning no clown shows involving Dallas Braden except for the pregame nonsense. Back to the game itself: Nats bullpen in 2017 prior to the NYM series: 42 IP, 28 runs allowed on 49 Hits including [u:fgcpntl8]10 HRs[/u:fgcpntl8] and 17 XBH, plus 17 walks Nats bullpen vs NYM: 7 scoreless and hitless innings w/2 walks

Oh do keep us informed.

At least it's not like we're tremendously shorthanded and have to face Scherzer on national television or anything.

Meanwhile, the Nats bullpen came into this series with an ERA north of 5.00 and WHIP of nearly 1.5 ... but we haven't gotten a hit off them in six innings so far.

Zvon wrote: Frayed Knot wrote: I'd reject this review - but I'd reject all of these microscopic reviews just to keep the managers from nit-picking. ... but the umps in Chelsea don't agree Amazin'. I thought he was safe for sure. I couldn't tell whether he was safe or out and if that's the case you stick with the call on the field every time. Then, if you do that, it cuts the number of challenges in half as managers would only go after the more obvious missed calls which is what the replay rule was designed to be in the first place.

I'd reject this review - but I'd reject all of these microscopic reviews just to keep the managers from nit-picking. ... but the umps in Chelsea don't agree

Good thing we wore Gio out with all those pitches in the 1st inning. Meanwhile, against deGrom, the Nats are either making zero contact or hard contact. Aside from the Murphy & Weiters pop-ups to end the top 6th, they've either been smoking balls or striking out. Tough to explain that.