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Who was the first Met to make his Met debut in a black uniform top? Fonzie? sorry , I meant Fonzie for this Who scored the first Met run in a black uniform top?

Edgy DC wrote: Edgy DC wrote: How long did it take you to learn English after you left Ireland? Oh know you did'int Yeah, that sucked of me. Sorry. You put it on a tee and everything. I thought it was hilarious , we certainly do speak a different brand of english.

G-Fafif wrote: G-Fafif wrote: The road blacks were deleted from the wardrobe after 2008. Not sure what you mean here. They still wear the blacks away from Citi. I was referring to the specific NEW YORK road blacks. The black METS jersey is the same home and away. are you screaming NEW YORK and METS right there?

Edgy DC wrote: How long did it take you to learn English after you left Ireland? Oh know you did'int

Been pitching in the big leagues since 1997 and his english is still limited?, don't like that.

What amazed me about the article is how the process came about , fair play to Lukas on this.

seawolf17 wrote: metirish wrote: To the best of our knowledge there is nothing worth stealing for the new guy. "Yeah, I got this... uh... Scott Hairston jersey? No, it's not game used, because he doesn't play all that much." lolz.......oh wait, hows about the Glavine #300?, gotta be worth a fortune that.......all those years with the Mets, it's iconic.

To the best of our knowledge there is nothing worth stealing for the new guy.

This guy wielded so much power in the clubhouse right? , I am sure it helped to have great buddies in Piazza and Glavine. I bet some more interesting stories will come out of this.

That is simply brilliant from Joe P.

Rubin Thole got advice on Twitter like he should pull ball because he's being pitched inside. Combined with some "ruthless" followers, had enough Thin skinned?

TransMonk wrote: seawolf17 wrote: They have an agreement not to offer him arbitration, I believe, which is where the picks come from. Yup. That's fucking dumb, is that a verbal agreement from Omar or an actual contract stipulation? , because if it's a verbal then Alderson can say screw that, of course Beltran could accept then, not going to reach that point though.

Ken Davidoff goes two parter on us , but first who'll get traded.....some good stuff in here. Which Mets will be going, going, gone? The Mets kicked off action in Denver last night with a 15-19 record. Not awful. The Red Sox stood at 16-18, and Baseball Prospectus� playoff odds have Boston capturing the American League wild card. But we need no sophisticated equations to know that the Mets simply don�t look like a contender this season � although, if you like sophisticated equations, BP had the Mets with a 0.3-percent chance to win the National League East and 0.9 percent to get the NL wild card. A good organization plans for all scenarios, so you can bet that the Mets, under the intelligent leadership of Sandy Alderson, are preparing for the chance that they�ll be sellers come July. Not just any sellers, either. The Mets, their poor record notwithstanding, have the sort of potentially available talent that could make Citi Field the trade-deadline headquarters, and could replenish the Mets� talent base considerably. Let�s take a look. The players are listed in order of buzz they are generating: JOSE REYES Why he�ll be traded His contract expires after this season, and if he keeps up his strong start, he�ll put himself in line for an immense contract on the free-agent market. Why he won�t be traded Besides the slim chance that the Mets will be in the playoff race? If the Mets� ownership straightens out its finances and if Alderson alters his philosophy about long-term contracts, then Reyes � who could get a free-agent contract worth more than $100 million � could stay.2011 stats.331 BA, .379 OBP, 49 H, 12 SBs. Likely returnThe best of any other impending free agent. Look at what Seattle got from Texas last July for Cliff Lee, who was in a similar contract situation � a top-flight prospect (first baseman Justin Smoak) and three more young players with some promise. Possible suitorsBoston, Cincinnati, Milwaukee, Oakland, San Francisco, St. Louis. Likelihood he�ll be traded: 80% CARLOS BELTRAN- Why he�ll be traded: Like Reyes, he can be a free agent, and like Reyes, he is playing well. Why he won�t be tradedThere�s no good reason. If the Mets aren�t in contention, they�ll have zero incentive to hold on to Beltran. They wouldn�t even recoup draft picks if they kept him and then lost him through free agency. 2011 stats: .295 BA, .536 SLG, 5 HRs, 18 RBIs. Likely return t depends wholly on how much money the Mets would be willing to include. With an $18.5-million salary, Beltran will have about $6 million owed him from August onward. The more the Mets provide, the better talent they�ll get back. Possible suitors: Atlanta, Detroit, Angels, Yankees, San Francisco, Tampa Bay. Likelihood he�ll be traded: 98 percent. FRANCISCO RODRIGUEZ Why he�ll be traded: Like Reyes and Beltran, free agency beckons � but he has a $17.5-million vesting option for 2012 that activates with 55 games finished. He entered last night�s game on pace for 52. Why he won�t be traded: That vesting option could be a deal-breaker. There even could be teams looking to acquire him as a setup man, which would lower his trade value. 2011 stats: 1.17 ERA, 9 saves. Likely return: Like with Beltran, the dollars will be an issue; K-Rod has about $3.8 million coming to him in the final two months. Possible suitors: Boston, Cincinnati, Detroit, Florida, Angels, Milwaukee, St. Louis, Texas. Likelihood he�ll be traded: 55 percent. MIKE PELFREY Why he�ll be traded: With a $3.93-million salary, and with two more years before free agency, Pelfrey will keep getting more expensive for the Mets. Will he keep getting better? Why he won�t be traded: If he keeps slipping and sliding his way through this campaign, it might not make sense to sell low on him. 2011 stats: 2-3, 6.06 ERA. Likely return: Assuming he can look like his old self until July, Pelfrey could bring back a nice package, highlighted by a top-flight prospect, since a) he�d be a long-term investment rather than a rental and it doesn�t look like there�ll be much quality starting pitching available. Possible suitors: Cincinnati, Colorado, Florida, Yankees, Texas. Likelihood he�ll be traded: 25 percent. DAVID WRIGHT Why he�ll be traded: If a team knocks the Mets� socks off with an offer of impressive prospects. Think of the package Texas received from Atlanta for Mark Teixeira. Why he won�t be traded:He�s under team control through 2013, and even though he has declined since 2008, he still has value to the Mets. 2011 stats: .240 BA, 5 HRs, 16 RBIs. Likely return: He�d go only if the return were tremendous. In that Teixeira trade, Texas received five players, including the major league-ready Jarrod Saltalamacchia and young studs Elvis Andrus and Neftali Feliz. Possible suitors: Cincinnati, Colorado, Oakland. Likelihood he�ll be traded: 10 percent. The rest (Tim Byrdak, Chris Capuano, Scott Hairston, Jason Isringhausen) Why they�ll be traded: They�re all impending free agents. No reason to keep them around if the club isn�t contending. Why they won�t be traded: Someone might be hurt. Likely return: Nothing over which to throw a party. But good scouting and negotiating could produce a few interesting, lower-tier prospects. Likely suitors: Everyone could use bullpen and bench help. If Capuano improves and Dillon Gee produces, the purported Pelfrey suitors could be in on them. Likelihood they�ll be traded: Byrdak 80 percent, Capuano 70 percent, Hairston 75 percent, Isringhausen 85 percent. The Jose Reyes trade dilemma, Part I For Tuesday's Newsday, I produced a Mets inventory check, based on the increasingly safe assumption that the Mets won't be in contention come July. I listed the players in order of the buzz they're generating on the yakosphere (trademark Neil Best), and using that criteria, listing Jose Reyes first was a no-brainer. I've read many good arguments - some from fellow media folk, some from readers with whom I communicate - about why the Mets should not trade Reyes this season. Nevertheless, I can think of only one good reason to retain him, and that's if the Mets mount a surprising playoff run. In my mind, there are two distinct questions here concerning Reyes. The first is, "Should they trade him?" The second is, "Should they commit to him long-term?" They intersect. But they are different questions. So let's address the first question Tuesday, and the second one Wednesday. And the answer to the first one, again, is, "As long as they're not in the race? Absolutely." If the Mets were so inclined, then Fred and Jeff Wilpon, Sandy Alderson and Terry Collins could sit Reyes in a meeting room at Citi Field on, say, July 15 and deliver this speech: "Jose, we think the world of you. We want you to spend your prime as a Met. We want you to reitre as a Met. "But there really is no point in you hanging around here for the rest of the season. We're out of the race. Aren't you tired of playing out the string? We feel it's win-win if we trade you. You get to enjoy your first pennant race in a while, and you're gonna bring back some exciting young players in a trade. "Really, by trading you, we're making ourselves more appealing to you come free agency. You want to win a World Series ring, and by trading you, we'll be closer to that goal than we are today. "So go ahead to (Cincinnati, San Francisco, wherever), and have a great time. And we'll be waiting for you on the other side." Is there precedent for such an arrangement? I can of two quasi-parallels: 1) In spring training of 1997, the Indians traded Kenny Lofton to Atlanta. Lofton spent the '97 season with the Braves, then returned to the Indians as a free agent for the 1998 season. 2) In July of 2003, Baltimore traded Sidney Ponson to San Francisco. Then the Orioles signed Ponson the subsequent winter. There's an obvious risk in this strategy. Reyes could fall in love with his new club. Or, he could play so well, including on a postseason platform, that he could raise his price to a prohibitive level for the Mets, whose owners might not be able to afford a huge commitment and whose general manager might be philosophically opposed to it, anyway. We'll delve more into those issues Wednesday. For now, I think it's absolutely worth the risk of trading Reyes, given the return that should be coming. --UPDATE, 10:46 a.m.: Got two more examples of this "temporary separation" phenomenon on Twitter. My buddy Mark Hale from the New York Post asked if Cliff Lee - traded by the Phillies, only to return to them a year later - qualified. I suppose it would, although I don't think the Phillies ever thought they would get Lee back. And Rob Zloto asked about Mike Bordick, whom the Mets acquired from Baltimore to replace the injured Rey Ordonez in 2000 and who returned to the Orioles for 2001. Absolutely. A very good example. http://www.newsday.com/sports/baseball/mets/which-mets-will-be-going-going-gone-1.2866641

Edgy DC wrote: Dykstra wasn't able to post bail. Meanwhile, he's loading up to go full Sheen on us. I'd hate to be his attorney , guy never shuts up and in that bit talked a lot but said nothing.

Ceetar wrote: MarkRip88: @josh_thole swing the fucking ball .. dont take pitches #SWING tomwatson: @josh_thole with passed ball on ceremonial 1st pitch - ouch! #mets Those are just the recent history, doesn't go back that far. But I can imagine there isn't a whole lot of benefit to it, so why put up with all the abuse? Yeah , there are plenty of assholes out there.....Darron Gibson of Manchester united opened an account a few weeks ago and it was closed within two hours such was the abuse he got.

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: No, I think he's prolly killing his twitter so as not to say something stoopit. Rubin concurs , at least with Thole leaving twitter ....I bet he was taken some grief over his defense and couldn't handle it.....fucking twatter

I wondered the same thing when I saw it.....my conclusion is that he has absolutely nothing of interest to say but felt he needed to say something....kind of like me on twitter.

"Best run team in sports" " From Fred To Jeff This Team is in Good Hands"

this is why I am always near the bottom of the league.

Bay made the trip eh?

TheOldMole wrote: Jeter gets two home runs and they put it on the front page of the News???? Obama spoke to the nation around midnight last night to talk about it.....

Ed Coleman thinks Wright just needs a blow..........all that swinging and missing probably has him banged up.

soupcan wrote: Your 'sources'. You crack me up you crazy old Mick, you. never question "sources" , especially ones with intimate knowledge of things.....

I'm in with that Edgy but I don't see the Mets making such an offer.......

TransMonk wrote: bmfc1 wrote: I hope that Alderson figures out a way, as stated earlier here, to keep Ike, David & Jose together and build/re-structure around them. This. But it is going to be very expensive to keep Reyes (your league leader in hits at this point). Behind all of the smiles and quoted loyalty, I think he (and his agent) are itching to see how much he can get on the open market. I've no problem with the player wanting to check the open market , this is his one big shot at it. Once he wasn't extended and this went in to the season like this then he'd be a fool not to test the market.