LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Oly and Keith. In that order. This belongs in the 3B thread but I'm telling it to you that I'm voting for Red Garrett and Robin Ventura. Not homer-ing here (well, not exclusively). Chop up those NL East-career WAR numbers for each of our candidates here by season, and you see surprising things. 1998 was a historically good offensive season, though it may not be as superficially impressive as Howard and Stargell's eye-popping power counting stats; take defense into account, and he's Pujolsian in value over the three Met years. I know what you mean about Oly. He was one of my favorite Mets. This might sound sacrilegious to many Met fans but pound for pound, or rate-wise, Olerud might've even been a better Met than Keith. His defense was not only underrated, but Gold-Glove caliber (whatever the hell that means). Olerud's Q rating during his Mets years took a beating as his years here coincided with the steroid era during which Olerud was probably considered less compelling a player in comparison to the dominant attention-getting performances of some morally "suspect" rival first basemen. Of course, I'm assuming that Olerud was clean and base my assumption on nothing more than subjective hunches. Still, Keith was an NL East superstar for about a decade, and an MVP. He's considered to be the best fielding first baseman in modern baseball history and a revolutionary who redefined the position. I don't see how Olerud, as great as he was, could've surpassed Keith's accomplishments in just three seasons.