HahnSolo

My first full-game viewing of the Mets in three weeks. Man, do we suck.

What about Livan? I know he's had some sucky outings of late, but isn't he the kind of guy that GMs of teams in contention just love to have: the so-called veteran, innings-eating, crafty guy to trot out there every fifth day. Now, who the contender is who would want him I have no idea (Brewers? Rangers? White Sox?).

Any posts in the thread about my wife get a bullet of cool from me. But I did notice this one from FMan in the trades thread that floors me each time I read it: Elijah Dukes sent down by the Nats to their local AAA affiliate here in Syracuse, to make room for Morgan to play. In other news, my home insurance premiums just doubled.

="Nymr83":2mf0p3se] seriously, why is wright getting a day off tommorow with an offday the next day and another offday monday? there are more off days in july than in may and june combined, play the guy!![/quote:2mf0p3se] There's a game Thursday at Pittsburgh. I suppose Jerry could/should give one today off and the other tomorrow. soupcan Jul 01 2009 07:22 AM ="G-Fafif":34d58zfi]Given the way they've been playing, they probably accidentally locked themselves in.[/quote:34d58zfi] Exactly. metirish Jul 01 2009 08:18 PM Turns out Pelfrey wasn't even at this meeting......

Speaking of Jerry, shouldn't he have at least mosied on out of the dugout while his pitching coach was getting the heave-ho?

Who?

Admit it Greg, you've been waiting years to use that Farrah Fawcett-Minors line, haven't you?

="Edgy DC":28o8bhhh]My guess was way too high. Basic math should tell me it was about 20 times too high.[/quote:28o8bhhh] And I suspect now that my guess was low. soupcan Jun 25 2009 08:54 AM Look how excited we all are. What a bunch of geeks. MFS62 Jun 25 2009 09:09 AM ="soupcan":2dbn7m5s]Look how excited we all are. What a bunch of geeks.[/quote:2dbn7m5s] Hey, when I joined the board, you folks were discussing how you had been called pompous pricks. Geeks is better. Much better. I salute to that. Especially when united in a common purpose. That purpose, of course, is anxiously wanting to find out the answer to those questions. It is the Metly thing to do. Later m.e.t.b.o.t. Jun 25 2009 09:18 AM m.e.t.b.o.t. is trying to figure out the correct answer to the questions posed. me.t.b.o.t. believes the that cranepoolforum poster hahnsolo has the most accurate answer so far, moreso than cranepoolforum poster and m.e.t.b.o.t. creator metsmarathon. Benjamin Grimm Jun 25 2009 09:22 AM Re: Crazy esoteric trivia ="Benjamin Grimm":2o6scmr5] (Mets wins and losses are combined in these totals; there's no distinction, for example, between 0-1 and 1-0.) [/quote:2o6scmr5] m.e.t.b.o.t. Jun 25 2009 09:43 AM m.e.t.b.o.t. approaches the problem in the following way. m.e.t.b.o.t. assumes that, up to 11-10, all possible scores have been accomplished. furthermore, m.e.t.b.o.t. assumes that there are some number of scoring combinations beyond this configuration which must also been accomplished. m.e.t.b.o.t. will estimate this by continuing the matrix to include all scoring combinations up to 14-13. this yields a total of 105 scoring combinations. me.t.b.o.t. concedes that there is room for error on the high side of this prediction, as m.e.t.b.o.t. has no basis for limiting the matrix to a maximum of 14 runs. m.e.t.b.o.t. is relying solely on the intuition afforded by a collection of springs, gears, pinions, and other mechanical components. 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 0 x 1-0 2-0 3-0 4-0 5-0 6-0 7-0 8-0 9-0 10-0 11-0 12-0 13-0 14-0 1 x 2-1 3-1 4-1 5-1 6-1 7-1 8-1 9-1 10-1 11-1 12-1 13-1 14-1 2 x 3-2 4-2 5-2 6-2 7-2 8-2 9-2 10-2 11-2 12-2 13-2 14-2 3 x 4-3 5-3 6-3 7-3 8-3 9-3 10-3 11-3 12-3 13-3 14-3 4 x 5-4 6-4 7-4 8-4 9-4 10-4 11-4 12-4 13-4 14-4 5 x 6-5 7-5 8-5 9-5 10-5 11-5 12-5 13-5 14-5 6 x 7-6 8-6 9-6 10-6 11-6 12-6 13-6 14-6 7 x 8-7 9-7 10-7 11-7 12-7 13-7 14-7 8 x 9-8 10-8 11-8 12-8 13-8 14-8 9 x 10-9 11-9 12-9 13-9 14-9 10 x 11-10 12-10 13-10 14-10 11 x 12-11 13-11 14-11 12 x 13-12 14-12 13 x 14-13 14 x m.e.t.b.o.t. lacks a sound basis for positing answers to the remaining questions in this challenge, but for purposes of completion will posit the following: How many distinct scores have there been? 105 What is the most common score, and how many times has it occurred? 5-4, 475 Other than tie games, what is the closest score that has not yet been the final score of a Mets game? (30 total runs or fewer. We know that no game has ever ended with a score of 106-105, for example.) 15-14 Of the final scores that have not yet happened, which score has the fewest combined runs? 16 What score was the most lopsided in Mets history? (largest difference between the winning team's runs and the losing team's runs) 14 What's the most lopsided shutout? 14-0 What's the most lopsided score that has occurred more than once? (It's happened three times.) 13-0 Frayed Knot Jun 25 2009 10:00 AM ="MFS62":1ppxo6yl]="soupcan":1ppxo6yl]Look how excited we all are. What a bunch of geeks.[/quote:1ppxo6yl] Hey, when I joined the board, you folks were discussing how you had been called pompous pricks. Geeks is better. Much better. I salute to that. Especially when united in a common purpose. That purpose, of course, is anxiously wanting to find out the answer to those questions. It is the Metly thing to do.[/quote:1ppxo6yl] I'm both a geek and an elitist prick. Benjamin Grimm Jun 25 2009 10:57 AM Okay, here are the answers: How many distinct scores have there been? 140 What is the most common score, and how many times has it occurred? 3-2, 512 times. Other than tie games, what is the closest score that has not yet been the final score of a Mets game? (30 total runs or fewer. We know that no game has ever ended with a score of 106-105, for example.) There have been one-run games all the way from 1-0 to 13-12, so the highest-scoring one-run game that hasn't happened yet is 14-13. Of the final scores that have not yet happened, which score has the fewest combined runs? There's never been a 17-0 game. All possible scores with 16 runs or fewer have occurred. BONUS: The least-common score with a margin of fewer than five runs (excluding ties) is 10-6, which has only happened 30 times. What score was the most lopsided in Mets history? (largest difference between the winning team's runs and the losing team's runs) 26-7. Some of us may remember this one. (I know I do!) It was a loss to the Phillies at Veterans Stadium on June 11, 1985. Tom Gorman started for the Mets, got one guy out, and yielded to Calvin Schiraldi. The Phillies scored 9 runs in the first inning and another 7 in the second. What's the most lopsided shutout? 16-0. A loss to the Braves at Shea on July 2, 1999. Masato Yoshii started for the Mets and Greg Maddux went for Atlanta. What's the most lopsided score that has occurred more than once? (It's happened three times.) 17-1. Atlanta 17, Mets 1, June 17, 1966 Mets 17, Pittsburgh 1, April 17, 1976 Mets 17, Houston 1, August 30, 1999 TOP TEN MOST COMMON SCORES IN METS HISTORY: 3-2 512 4-3 444 2-1 442 4-2 334 5-4 332 3-1 264 5-2 240 4-1 237 6-5 229 5-3 227 John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 25 2009 11:01 AM ]What's the most lopsided shutout? 16-0. A loss to the Braves at Shea on July 2, 1999. Masato Yoshii started for the Mets and Greg Maddux went for Atlanta. I remember this one. Ambler at the old mofo described this as "Hiroshima." Fascinating list by the way and thanks. That one-run games are more common than 2-run games probably says something about how 2-run leads are treated. metirish Jun 25 2009 11:08 AM Fascinating is right , great work and I am sure mathamaticians could have fun with the top ten. Centerfield Jun 25 2009 11:14 AM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket"]]What's the most lopsided shutout? 16-0. A loss to the Braves at Shea on July 2, 1999. Masato Yoshii started for the Mets and Greg Maddux went for Atlanta. I remember this one. Ambler at the old mofo described this as "Hiroshima." Fascinating list by the way and thanks. That one-run games are more common than 2-run games probably says something about how 2-run leads are treated. If memory serves me correctly, that was the pitching debut of Matt Franco. PiggiesTomatoes Jun 25 2009 11:25 AM Great thread and trivia. Thanks LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 25 2009 12:51 PM I don't know how the hell I forgot 26-7. I was 7, and I remember crying in frustration after about an inning and a half. Thanks, BeeG. Edgy DC Jun 25 2009 12:58 PM I liked that game. They hadn't hit in two weeks, and the seven runs was a breakthrough. Benjamin Grimm Jun 25 2009 02:04 PM Okay, so now there have been five hundred and thirteen 3 to 2 games. Frayed Knot Jun 25 2009 02:09 PM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket"]]What's the most lopsided shutout? 16-0. A loss to the Braves at Shea on July 2, 1999. Masato Yoshii started for the Mets and Greg Maddux went for Atlanta. I remember this one. Ambler at the old mofo described this as "Hiroshima." Fascinating list by the way and thanks. That one-run games are more common than 2-run games probably says something about how 2-run leads are treated. IIRC, this one was also declared to be "all Bobby's fault" by several on that forum -- a conclusion I dubbed "stupidity cubed".

How many distinct scores have there been? 90 What is the most common score, and how many times has it occurred? 4-2, 250 times Other than tie games, what is the closest score that has not yet been the final score of a Mets game? (30 total runs or fewer. We know that no game has ever ended with a score of 106-105, for example.) 15-14 Of the final scores that have not yet happened, which score has the fewest combined runs? 17 What score was the most lopsided in Mets history? (largest difference between the winning team's runs and the losing team's runs) 19 What's the most lopsided shutout? 16-0 What's the most lopsided score that has occurred more than once? (It's happened three times.) 16-3

I don't know why I think this, but wasn't her dad a Met fan?

Oh, god no, not the BP projections! I vowed not to read these after absorbing them for 2 straight Septembers. have mercy on me, Grimm.

I know he had 3 hits yesterday, but has the rook earned batting in that #2 spot?

I'm not a pro baseball player, but both the Castillo and Delgado drops bring a question to mind. When did the one hand at shoulder height catch of a pop up become acceptable? Everybody seems to do it, so I won't get down too much on those two guys. But whatever happened to getting under it and turning your glove up above your head?

In other news, Phils trail 2-1 to the Sox bottom ninth, but Papelbon is not in, and, before I can even finish my thought, Howard homers off Ramirez to tie it.

Edgy DC wrote: ="HahnSolo"]I think Miguel Cairo and... Oh, stop right there. I am almost certain he hit one for the Mets against the Yanks at Shea, and I think he did it to the Mets as well. I will take the ridicule like a man if I am wrong.

I think Miguel Cairo and Tony Clark. And Ventura yes.

Sheff at DH, with Reed in left, and Murph at 1st.

Those were two completely uninspiring turns at bat for the hometown boys.

="Edgy DC"]Personal: Brian Christopher Needham was born 7/21/86 in Houston, Texas ... Parents are Vernon and Cindy Needham ... Major is General Studies ... Hobbies are golf and fishing. He's almost 23! Born just one day after the Mets left Houston with a 9-8 extra inning loss and just one day before the Orosco/McDowell/Knight v. Davis fight game in Cincinnati. He was destined to be a Met.

The Damon HR was comical last night. When he hit the ball, he put his head down in disgust that he had popped the ball up. It landed three rows over the wall. Didn't stop Sterling from calling it a "Johnny Rocket" I bet.

Willets Point wrote: ="HahnSolo"]An intentional BB in the first inning to a guy hitting .243? Am I reading that right? It was a 3-0 count may as well just walk him intentionally type of intentional walk, if that makes any difference. Thanks. Didn't see that. I guess it's a bit more understandable.

first 8 batters for Pitt: 6 singles and an intentional BB. 4-0 with the pitcher coming up.

An intentional BB in the first inning to a guy hitting .243? Am I reading that right?