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Sad Relief Rod Desi Relaford

Essay Neglect Casey Stengel

1) Reyes: Stolen bases 53 2) Castillo: Games played 117 3) Delgado: RBIs 91 4) Wright: Rank in MVP voting 2nd 5) Murphy: Doubles 28 6) Beltran: Home Runs 31 7) Church: Games started 115 8) Schneider: Extra base hits 19 9) Sheffield: Home runs 13 10) Anderson: Plate appearances 10 11) Reed: Batting average .261 12) Cora: doubles 12 13) Castro: Home runs 7 14) Tatis: Games started 79 15) Santana: ERA 2.97 16) Pelfrey: Wins 14 17) Ollie: Strikeouts 184 18) Maine: Games started 30 19) L. Hernandez: Innings pitched 140 20) F Rodriguez: Saves 44 21) Putz: ERA 3.86 22) Parnell: K/9 7.47 23) Stokes: Wins 4 24) Green: Appearances 60 25) Feliciano BAA -Lefties .160 26) O'Day: Appearances 15

For #17, does that have to be a starter? Since it said pitcher, I went with Feliciano, but if it has to be a starter, put Perez in there. 1. First hit JOSE REYES 2. First double CARLOS BELTRAN 3. First triple JOSE REYES 4. First home run RYAN CHURCH 5. First stolen base JOSE REYES 6. First baserunner caught stealing/picked off DAVID WRIGHT 7. First guy to hit into a double-play DAVID WRIGHT 8. First batter to strike out CARLOS DELGADO 9. First fielder to commit an error LUIS CASTILLO 10. First guy to score a run JOSE REYES 11. First guy to drive in a run CARLOS BELTRAN 12. First Met player to field a batted ball in fair territory CARLOS BELTRAN 13. First Met to draw a walk DANIEL MURPHY 14. First Met relief pitcher to make an appearance PEDRO FELICIANO 15. First Met to reach base on an error JOSE REYES 16. First winning Met pitcher JOHAN SANTANA 17. First Met pitcher to be relieved in the middle of an inning PEDRO FELICIANO 18. First Met to to plunk an opposing batter MIKE PELPHREY 19. First Met to be hit by a pitch BRIAN SCHNEIDER 20. First Met pinch-hitter MARLON ANDERSON

One thing I don't "get" from the place is the bridge motif. I can't understand why it was so important to do it. I tried to explain it to my wife and she was like, "I totally don't see NYC bridges." Seawolf, how does the wiffle ball thing work? Is it free? A wait your turn thing? My son is already angling to hit that first when we go next week.

Agree they will try to give it a go. Only trip to Cincy this year as well.

Lean? Corn Cob Sin Robinson Cancel

Lone Sky Cajoler Roy Lee Jackson

Dormant Gland M. Donald Grant

Never Send Those Steve Henderson

Losing? Join a Ferryman Jim Fregosi Nolan Ryan

Futile Met Tim Teufel

Jam Loser Mel Rojas

Clean Cook Cal Koonce

No Cal Coke Cal Koonce

Hmm. I guess my perception of Nationals Park was different. I took the Metro to the game and walked in through the CF promenade. And we sat field level, so I didn't notice the slopes in the upper reaches. I never saw the glass encasings in the photo above, and liked the interior of the ballpark.

="metirish":2zrh990b]Oh I thought you meant in the starting nine.[/quote:2zrh990b] Yeah, I was wondering why Don Aase was on the list. So if relief/bench players count, then wouldn't KRod, Putz, Green, Reed be possibilities? [Edit: nevermind, I'm easily confused. I should read things more thoroughly before I post] Benjamin Grimm Apr 02 2009 06:56 AM Junior Noboa is the remaining 1992 guy. Edgy DC Apr 02 2009 07:19 AM I deserve copious amounts of parting gifts for coming up with Aase. I mean, I should lose half of them for conflating Orsulak and Gallagher, but there you are. G-Fafif Apr 02 2009 08:18 AM ="Edgy DC":28f3t4q6]I deserve copious amounts of parting gifts for coming up with Aase.[/quote:28f3t4q6] Page 163. Fman99 Apr 02 2009 09:22 AM I think I'll dip into recent history for the 2006 group of 6: LoDuca Delgado Nady Wagner Julio Franco Valentin Benjamin Grimm Apr 03 2009 07:51 AM Fman goes six for six with '06 picks! Fman99 Apr 03 2009 07:53 AM ="Benjamin Grimm":3g47tz21]Fman goes six for six with '06 picks![/quote:3g47tz21] I was thinking A-Hern too, who was the opening day 2B, but he had a callup in the fall of '05.

="Fman99":1oc6dpyg]="John Cougar Lunchbucket":1oc6dpyg]Keilty, Nieve and Dessens are cut. I think that makes 26 +/- Livan/Evans[/quote:1oc6dpyg] Sending Kielty packing, and keeping Marlon Anderson, stinks.[/quote:1oc6dpyg] I can understand keeping Castillo because you don't want to dump $18 mill (or whatever is owed to him) on a guy if he is not playing for you. And okay, maybe Luis is healthy this year and last year was an aberration. But Marlon? They can't eat his guarantee for one year? He resembled nothing close to a major league ballplayer at the end of '08 (heck, all of '08). Santana would have been a better lefty bat off the bench for most of last year. I can't believe he's still with the team. Edgy DC Apr 01 2009 09:10 AM Kielty hasn't been sent packing. If 2008 was an abberation for Castillo, why couldn't it have possibly been for Anderson? holychicken Apr 01 2009 09:10 AM Thinking about the fact that Anderson is on the roster makes me mad. Not that I am all that baseball astute. . . .but I see absolutely NO reason for him to be on the roster. He had a terrible year last year and he had a terrible spring. Why is he still here? Why can't we just cut him loose? metirish Apr 01 2009 09:14 AM I'm sure we will see Kielty before long. holychicken Apr 01 2009 09:18 AM ="Edgy DC":1edz66no]Kielty hasn't been sent packing. If 2008 was an abberation for Castillo, why couldn't it have possibly been for Anderson?[/quote:1edz66no] He had a 40 OPS+. If that is an aberration, I would hope that it would require you earning a spot. . .which he just did not do this spring while getting a decent number of ABs (42). Edgy DC Apr 01 2009 09:18 AM They can. They choose not to. Because there's more to it than last year. And when you have to choose between a few options, you often have to look at the veterans first, guys with larger contracts, big league contracts, because (1) the stakes are higher as you only get one decision with them and (2) because younger players tend to make more of time in the minors than older players. Sometimes, you have to accept that you have to accept that it's in the team's interests to try Manny Aybar first and Heath Bell second. Edgy DC Apr 01 2009 09:21 AM ="holychicken":3bmztzkb]="Edgy DC":3bmztzkb]Kielty hasn't been sent packing. If 2008 was an abberation for Castillo, why couldn't it have possibly been for Anderson?[/quote:3bmztzkb] He had a 40 OPS+.[/quote:3bmztzkb] I can read. I also know that players with playing time limited due to injury and narrow roles such as pinch-hitting often end up with stats on the extreme ends of the spectrum. That number is alarming but not conclusive. I certainly don't think the 133 OPS+ the season before was conclusive. holychicken Apr 01 2009 09:26 AM I understand that, edgy. But he didn't just have a down year. . . he had a downright terrible year. There are only 10 NL players who had a minimum of 100 ABs that had a worse OPS than the guy. And it is not like he has impeccable defensive skills to make up for the fact that he was basically worse than our pitchers at the plate. I just feel if you shit the bed like that you really need to EARN your way back to the majors, which he completely and utterly failed to do this spring. I would give him the benefit of the doubt if he had a halfway decent spring, but he showed me exactly what he gave us last year. metirish Apr 01 2009 09:32 AM Make what you will of this....from the Snooze ] By keeping Anderson over Kielty, the Mets won't have a righty pinch-hitter on the bench from Game 5 on when Tatis starts - that is, other than Castro, who typically wouldn't be used in that role because he's the backup catcher. So who pinch-hits against a lefty reliever? "Livan," Manuel joked, referring to his fifth starter, who is a career .233 hitter. "I've got all that covered, man." As for the decision to keep Anderson, Mets brass cited his improved shape this spring as well as his track record as a pinch-hitter. "Marlon has been a guy that when he's right has been very, very good for us," Manuel said. Get in shape guys. MFS62 Apr 01 2009 09:37 AM Funny, on the day Livian was signed, I posted about his .233 career BA and joked that maybe they were signing him for his bat. (Can't find the link). Sometimes, the things you say in jest.... Later cooby Apr 01 2009 07:27 PM ="G-Fafif":3n4m1msd]Toe Knee Arm Ass My inner sixth-grader is laughing hysterically.[/quote:3n4m1msd] moi aussi

Oops. missed the other thread. Never mind.

6th from left, 8th from left, 4th from right are my guesses for Rock's mom. (in the 1975 pic)

That minor league park in Camden, the one right under the bridge? Can't you see Pennsylvania from there?

I just grabbed four seats for the third home game of the season on StubHub. Will get to see how Citi runs on a chilly April night.

What's the etiquette on eating in ballpark restaurants? Before the game, during the game, after the game?

="Gwreck":2a88ajq4]Good news: Jocelyn Pierce (who was absolutely terrible) is out as Mets Weekly host. In is Julie Alexandria, who was formerly the co-host of Beer Money. NY Post article: http://www.nypost.com/seven/02152009/sports/moresports/the_rumble_155278.htm[/quote:2a88ajq4] I would much prefer to look at Jocelyn Pierce. Was she bad as a host? Couldn't say. Was too busy looking at her. Julia's OK I guess, no Jocelyn though. Fman99 Feb 18 2009 07:30 AM ="metirish"]From the few times I have seen Julie Alexandria I like her , seems to have a sweet and fun personality. Do I even need to say it? OK, I think I do. Hey Julie, come over here. And bring the bat. Frayed Knot Feb 18 2009 07:33 AM ="Edgy DC":3msy2jjg]I like how she interviews a shirt.[/quote:3msy2jjg] Maybe she's trying to get the shirt to 'open up' ... like her own for instance. Centerfield Feb 18 2009 07:56 AM ="Frayed Knot":rsssa79a]="Edgy DC":rsssa79a]I like how she interviews a shirt.[/quote:rsssa79a] Maybe she's trying to get the shirt to 'open up' ... like her own for instance.[/quote:rsssa79a] Bam! Julie Alexandria = much hotter than Matt Yaloff. Benjamin Grimm Feb 18 2009 08:08 AM But not as hot as Jocelyn Pierce. I only watched Mets Weekly twice. The first time convinced me that, as lovely as Jocelyn Pierce was, there wasn't enough substance in the show for me to invest (or waste) a half hour of my time. Too much fluff. Half the show was Jocelyn following Scott Schoeneweis around the golf course. (The second time I watched was to catch Johnny Lunchbucket's appearance.) Edgy DC Feb 18 2009 08:13 AM I hadn't heard the Joe Frazier story. Love it. Some of the first things I learned to say as a Met fan was "Joe Frazier Sucks" and "Fire Joe Frazier." I heard them and repeated them and had little idea why I was saying them. metirish Feb 18 2009 09:08 AM I wonder if the bad publicity generated by her husband has anything to do with Jocelyn losing her hosting gig , is she still employed by SNY ? Benjamin Grimm Feb 18 2009 09:10 AM ="metirish":1vsplurx]I wonder if the bad publicity generated by her husband has anything to do with Jocelyn losing her hosting gig , is she still employed by SNY ?[/quote:1vsplurx] Who's her husband? Please tell me it's not Bernie Madoff! metirish Feb 18 2009 09:12 AM Nah it's Antonio Pierce , the numb nut Giants player involved with Plaxico Burress. metirish Mar 30 2009 09:17 AM Klapisch: Ojeda talks a good game ] Bobby Ojeda has spent the past five years in a blissful, self-imposed exile at his Rumson shore house, beyond the reach of the �86 ghosts. The former Mets� left-hander never was much for reminiscing. Like some Met fans � particularly the younger ones � he�s been willing to let the �80s turn to vapor. Does that sound like the profile of an SNY analyst? Incredibly, the Mets-owned network thinks Ojeda is its man, despite the fact he has no television experience. He�ll be in the studio for 130 games this season, replacing Lee Mazzilli as the pregame and postgame intellectual engine. There�s a delicious irony to anyone who knew Ojeda in the Mets� wilder days: He was anything but a spotlight hog, even though he was the best pitcher in 1986, winning 18 games. Now, Ojeda says with a laugh, �I�m the one who�s going to be doing all the talking.� Ojeda has been given free rein by SNY to cut and slash as he sees fit. Ojeda could follow in the footsteps of Keith Hernandez, his onetime teammate who can be openly critical of the Mets and has few friends in the clubhouse (although he has a near-cult following among viewers). Or Ojeda can play it safe like many of the analysts at the rival YES Network, including David Cone and Al Leiter. The networks closely scrutinize each other, comparing nightly ratings, quality of production and the editorial tone of their announcers. One YES announcer said last summer he was �stunned� at how far Hernandez has been allowed to stray from the company line. �If I talked like that about the Yankees, I�d probably get fired,� the broadcaster said with a laugh. Ojeda understands there�s a fine line between honesty and corporate common sense. He also knows his decision to work for SNY has removed him from the brotherhood of big-leaguers. He visited Port St. Lucie, Fla., last week with co-host Chris Carlin (who replaces Matt Yallof) and immediately sensed the gap, even with Howard Johnson, a friend for 20 years who now serves as the Mets� hitting instructor. Ojeda�s only purpose was to chat with HoJo, not interview him, not even to use the information for background. Yet Ojeda knew the reservoir of trust was drying up. �There was this twinge from Howard, like he was talking to the media,� Ojeda said. �I was like, �HoJo, this is me you�re talking to.� I felt like kicking his butt. I�m getting these answers and I�m like, �Come on, are you kidding me?� I guess it�s the nature of the thing I signed on to.� So why would Ojeda begin this journey? Or more to the point, why would SNY take a gamble on an electronic rookie? SNY head Curt Gowdy Jr. says Ojeda impressed the network during auditions with his candor and ability to shape short, concise answers. Once he realized Ojeda actually had a presence in front of the camera, Gowdy was willing to overlook his new analyst�s lack of experience. �It�s a calculated risk, but there are a lot of calculated risks we�ve taken,� Gowdy said. �Look at bringing Ron Darling here from the Nationals. Look at bringing Kevin Burkhardt from WFAN. We think Bob is only going to get better and better.� Gowdy glossed over the dismissals of Mazzilli and Yallof, saying SNY was looking for a �different� personality and perspective. After the Mets� back-to-back collapses in 2007 and 2008, the Wilpon family undoubtedly wanted its network to have a makeover in time for Citi Field�s christening. Jeff Wilpon approached Ojeda during the off-season and floated the idea of coming back to the organization as an analyst. Ojeda had spent three years as the pitching coach for the Brooklyn Cyclones, bailing out in 2003, when Rick Peterson was hired as the Mets� pitching coach. Ojeda went home to Rumson, spending the next five years watching his five daughters grow up, distancing himself from his former life. Ojeda rebuffed every attempt to relive the miracle �86 season, including card shows and interview requests. In truth, he was sick of the Mets who were making careers out of reliving their careers. �You have to move on. I mean, it turns everyone off when you hear [a broadcaster] say, �When I played.� I don�t have any intention of doing that,� Ojeda said. �The players today, it�s their turn; they�re the ones wearing the uniform. I�d rather stay current.� The same forward-directed policy will apply to the other asterisk on Ojeda�s r�sum� � the horrific 1993 boating accident in Florida that took the lives of Indian teammates Tim Crews and Steve Olin, the first deaths of active major leaguers since Thurman Munson was killed in 1979. Ojeda, who suffered severe head lacerations, later said the only reason he also wasn�t killed was because he was slouched over the moment the boat struck a dock. It was driven by Crews, whom investigators said was legally drunk at the time. Ojeda will not speak about the tragedy in interviews or on the air. �It�s like [the] �86 [season]. We all have things on our permanent record,� Ojeda said. �I mean, that�s life; you just keep going. You look for new challenges. For me, this [sNY job] is an opportunity to get back into baseball and talk about something I love. I can�t wait.� Centerfield Mar 30 2009 09:34 AM I can't believe they're putting Chris Carlin on more shows. It's like they're trying to out-dumb themselves. Yalloff might have been stupid, but at least he wasn't a blowhard. I've seen about five minutes of Loudmouths to know that I don't want to see another minute of either of them. Plus he talks like he has marbles in his mouth. Edgy DC Mar 30 2009 09:52 AM Isn't the fact that they have a show called "Loud Mouths" a bigger problem than which particular loud mouths it features? LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Mar 30 2009 11:42 AM ] One YES announcer said last summer he was �stunned� at how far Hernandez has been allowed to stray from the company line. �If I talked like that about the Yankees, I�d probably get fired,� the broadcaster said with a laugh. True story: During her on-air orgasm in response to Roger Clemens' in-game announcement of his return to baseball, Suzyn Waldman was fulfilling a contractual obligation to her former YES employers; in return, she received a $30,000 balloon payment-- $25,000 of which was paid in the form of Hard Rock Cafe gift certificates and tee shirts-- and a 3 ounce vial of Roger Clemens' testicular sweat (valued at 12.07, since subpoenaed by DOJ). Centerfield Mar 30 2009 12:29 PM ="Edgy DC":8fiqu3nj]Isn't the fact that they have a show called "Loud Mouths" a bigger problem than which particular loud mouths it features?[/quote:8fiqu3nj] I understand that the network honchos are asking his mouth to be loud, it doesn't mean I have to like him more. For my pre and post game, give me the guy that passed up that gig. I like SNY because of its Mets/Big East-centered coverage. But outside of the actual games and SportsNight, I think I would rather watch the Lifetime channel than the rest of SNY's programming. In addition to Loudmouths, they have about sixteen other "reporters screaming at each other" type shows. Where it seems the objective is to be more annoying than the guy you're arguing with. I have never heard Joe Beningo on the FAN, but from the clips I see of his "highlights", I think I've seen all I need to see. Edgy DC Mar 30 2009 12:32 PM Yeah, I'm not asking you to like him more, only to give the lion's share of your hate to the process that empowers him to suck. Benjamin Grimm Mar 30 2009 12:37 PM I don't mind that SNY has some dumb shoutfests on its schedule, but I think it would be a good idea for them to have some smart shows as well. (Maybe they do, but if so they don't advertise them during Mets games.) I'm thinking of a Bob Costas/Bryant Gumbel kind of show where you have a reporter covering some topic of interest to the New York sports scene with insight and depth. But instead it's a lot of Loudmouths and Wheelhouse and Beer Money. metirish Mar 30 2009 12:41 PM Fran Healy productions has a range of shows to suit your needs. G-Fafif Mar 30 2009 01:00 PM ="metirish":1szfbxoo]Fran Healy productions has a range of shows to suit your needs.[/quote:1szfbxoo] I had my first ever dream about Fran Healy the other night. Dreamt I was at a table in some mostly deserted banquet room at a trade show in Philadelphia and Healy was taking a break from doing an interview or something and came to sit down. (TMF may have been at the table as well.) My gosh, I thought, I took a shot at him in my book and now I'm sitting here and he's coming over. He walked behind me, gave me this jockish rubbing of the shoulders and said something knowing and slightly needling as if to indicate it's all right, I've been through this before. He wasn't being particularly friendly, but he wasn't altogether menacing. Fman99 Mar 31 2009 11:56 AM Caught a couple of minutes of Beer Money the other night as I was flipping around the dial. Blech. If ol DJ Chunky Carlin came up to me I think I'd just feed him pennies until he went away. Now, that Julie girl, well, heh heh, I'd find something else to feed her. metirish Apr 06 2009 12:14 PM Caught most of the pre-game stuff , it's going to take sme getting used to watching Carlin. Of course I could just skip the damn thing. TransMonk Apr 06 2009 12:15 PM The new in-game graphics are a bit cookie cutter for my taste. I had no problem with the old ones. metirish Apr 06 2009 12:17 PM I find the huge NY swooshing through the screen annoying. A bit FOX like I think. HahnSolo Apr 06 2009 01:06 PM Carlin does remind me a bit too much of the leader of the Fordham Baldies. Elster88 Apr 18 2009 02:16 PM Finally I can be comfortable watching the post-game. The only thing worse than Carlin's voice is actually looking at him. The first time the gf saw him on Beer Money she was afraid of him. I've got no problem with equal treatment for slobs but does this guy have to be on TV? I also have no problem with TV personalities being hired based on how they look and sound. Edgy DC Apr 18 2009 02:50 PM I like to think I'd look prettier if people on TV and on film and in magzines were generally uglier. GYC Apr 18 2009 05:57 PM Chris Carlin is the biggest asshole I ever met. He covers Rutgers games for a local New Brunswick/Piscataway station and has absolutely no respect for anyone else in the business. He's loud, he's obnoxious, and he's an asshole. He'll stand up and leave in the middle of press conferences, even if people are in the middle of talking. He acts like he's important and has priority because he's Chris Carlin. And on gameday, him and fat daughter waddle around Rutgers Stadium. I hate seeing him on SNY. He's a prick. Edgy DC Apr 18 2009 08:22 PM Who else reads GYC's posts and hears the words coming out of Keith Hernandez's mouth? Live on the air. Fman99 Apr 18 2009 08:57 PM ="Edgy DC":2jfw89we]Who else reads GYC's posts and hears the words coming out of Keith Hernandez's mouth? Live on the air.[/quote:2jfw89we] I do, which is even better given Mex's wardrobe (in the profile pic) as the hair color pitchman. I'd buy Grecian 5 from that salty motherfucker in a minute! Swan Swan H May 25 2009 11:36 AM SNY is running the Mr. Koo game as the Mets Classic. Again. As I write this Buck and McCarver are giving Willie a tongue-bath. Anyway, this is at least the fourth time I've seen this game on SNY this year. According to UMDB the Mets have played 7,523 regular season games. Apparently SNY has the rights to show eight of them. batmagadanleadoff May 25 2009 12:17 PM ="Swan Swan H":qgg5ebow]SNY is running the Mr. Koo game as the Mets Classic. Again. As I write this Buck and McCarver are giving Willie a tongue-bath. Anyway, this is at least the fourth time I've seen this game on SNY this year. According to UMDB the Mets have played 7,523 regular season games. Apparently SNY has the rights to show eight of them.[/quote:qgg5ebow] I noticed the same thing. http://cranepoolforum.net/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=10886&sid=2e36b27e63769008dbc4af85452e39c6 Swan Swan H May 25 2009 12:31 PM Oops. I didn't realize there was a separate thread for the Classix. TransMonk Jun 03 2009 03:53 PM Per Metsblog, via Twitter, SI.com�s Jon Heyman announced that Matt Yalloff, formerly of SNY, has joined the MLB Network. G-Fafif Jun 03 2009 03:54 PM ="TransMonk":jrcwlac0]Per Metsblog, via Twitter, SI.com�s Jon Heyman announced that Matt Yalloff, formerly of SNY, has joined the MLB Network.[/quote:jrcwlac0] I'm exhausted just learning that. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 03 2009 05:09 PM So we've got Carlin for good, then. And there are no trades in broadcasting? John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 03 2009 06:19 PM ="TransMonk":2gmwiqqi]Per Metsblog, via Twitter, SI.com�s Jon Heyman announced that Matt Yalloff, formerly of SNY, has joined the MLB Network.[/quote:2gmwiqqi] as soda-getter. G-Fafif Jun 04 2009 12:34 PM Kevin Burkhardt just admonished the Pirates for placing a section of wall from Forbes Field, over which Mazeroski's home run flew, in a less than ideal spot at PNC Park. While there's nothing wrong with professing exacting standards (it is weird that it's between two bathrooms), anyone whose job description includes shilling for the history-challenged environs of Citi Field should pick his battles more carefully, as in, perhaps, "what a shape they don't have a Taqueria here in Pittsburgh." Elster88 Jun 24 2009 08:27 PM Carlin auditioning for ESPN doing the highlights. I really can't stand him. Swan Swan H Jun 24 2009 08:42 PM ="Elster88":2eui7q36]Carlin auditioning for ESPN doing the highlights. I really can't stand him.[/quote:2eui7q36] I hoped he'd be different, but you nailed it. Gary Apple may be vanilla, but he hits his marks and doesn't drive me nuts. Among the SNY stable of talkers I wouldn't mind seeing him in that seat. metirish Jun 24 2009 08:45 PM ="Swan Swan H":1bvh8rgw]="Elster88":1bvh8rgw]Carlin auditioning for ESPN doing the highlights. I really can't stand him.[/quote:1bvh8rgw] I hoped he'd be different, but you nailed it. Gary Apple may be vanilla, but he hits his marks and doesn't drive me nuts. Among the SNY stable of talkers I wouldn't mind seeing him in that seat.[/quote:1bvh8rgw] I've thought the same thing about Apple for a while. Elster88 Aug 09 2009 05:52 PM A clean-shaven Johnny Franco doing the post-game. Frayed Knot Aug 09 2009 06:41 PM I'm guessing Franco's had that mustache since, oh I dunno, maybe age 12. OlerudOwned Aug 09 2009 08:04 PM ="Frayed Knot"]I'm guessing Franco's had that mustache since, oh I dunno, maybe age 12. Funny that he'd be clean for a team with a historically mustachioed mascot. Then again, this was during the Schott reign. dgwphotography Aug 10 2009 07:46 AM ="Frayed Knot":30o1llmf]I'm guessing Franco's had that mustache since, oh I dunno, maybe age 12.[/quote:30o1llmf] Sounds like me - I've had at least a mustache for 29 years... Frayed Knot Aug 10 2009 07:59 AM But can't you just picture Johnny F trying to cultivate at least the beginnings of one in Jr High? The Reds - despite the mascot - were long a conservative club with 'no facial hair' restrictions going back even before the Schott era. I suspect he wasn't clean-shaven there out of choice. Edgy DC Aug 10 2009 08:10 AM And, in fairness to the Reds, all of baseball was pretty much facial-hair-free for about 50 years leading up to the Swinging A's era. Can anybody name the first mustachioed Met? John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 10 2009 08:24 AM Ken Boswell Benjamin Grimm Aug 10 2009 08:25 AM Felix Millan? Frayed Knot Aug 10 2009 08:33 AM ="Edgy DC":8wq591f4]And, in fairness to the Reds, all of baseball was pretty much facial-hair-free for about 50 years leading up to the Swinging A's era. [/quote:8wq591f4] Reds just kept that policy going much longer than other clubs. It was some mgr/exec from the Cincy org that switched over to StL at one point during Keith's time there who made him shave off his 'stache. Edgy DC Aug 10 2009 08:44 AM And to be honest, I kind of liked the policy. Yeah, it seems starkly retrograde, but I like anything that makes teams culturally different from one another, even if it's something I wouldn't like on my team. Maybe especially if it's something I wouldn't like on my team. dgwphotography Aug 10 2009 01:29 PM I remember seeing both Kranepool and Harrelson sporting mustaches... Farmer Ted Aug 11 2009 09:25 AM Bobby O last night said that Pelfry's form on a bunch of pitches looked lazy and he wasn't waiting for Santos to finish giving signs before he started his windup. In Pelfry's defense, the guy was just with his wife who gave birth. So, he's up for how long during that process? Then the Mets shove him onto a plan, across the freaking country, and pitch with his head obviously in a fog. Farmer Ted Aug 16 2009 01:08 PM Switched over to NESN in between innings to catch a Red Sox score. Frank Viola doing color and sounds pretty good. Any openings at SNY? Frayed Knot Aug 16 2009 01:20 PM ="Farmer Ted":jupihupn]Switched over to NESN in between innings to catch a Red Sox score. Frank Viola doing color and sounds pretty good. Any openings at SNY?[/quote:jupihupn] I've heard him before. He might rival Johnny Franco for the most identifiable Noo Yawk accent working in the media. G-Fafif Aug 16 2009 03:54 PM ="dgwphotography":2hba0iah]I remember seeing both Kranepool and Harrelson sporting mustaches...[/quote:2hba0iah] Been listening to the radio broadcast of Tom Seaver's final start before he was traded. One of things I learned, from Bob Murphy, was Dave Kingman just shaved his mustache because he realized (according to Murph) that he couldn't grow a good one.