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="Edgy DC":olxsmewq]Yeah, we're already discussing that in another thread.[/quote:olxsmewq] I think this chart would be a welcome addition to the discussion in that other thread. Please do the cut and paste mod honors so the others can have their way with it. Later

It will take a few years to find out if they got what they paid for. Later

="Edgy DC":eny4roeq]First big league hit in three years by Andy Green and these mugs are taking calls?![/quote:eny4roeq] They're trying to not let their joy overwhelm them. Later Edgy DC Aug 19 2009 08:09 PM John Franco is Player of the Game? Ashie62 Aug 19 2009 08:10 PM This team bears a striking resemblance to the Indians in the motion picture "Major League" but without the talent seawolf17 Aug 19 2009 08:39 PM Ah, what Willie Mays Hayes and Pedro Cerrano could have done for this team this year. Nymr83 Aug 19 2009 09:23 PM ="Ashie62":lk6g0sev]This team bears a striking resemblance to the Indians in the motion picture "Major League" but without the talent[/quote:lk6g0sev] maybe they're the minor league team in major league 3? where the twin middle infielders run into each other?

I'm calling this kangaroo court to order. Runner on third with no outs and can't get a run home? Wouldn't change the outcome of the game very much, but somebody has to ante up. Later

Is Nieve due back later this year? He showed some excellent stuff. If the Mets decide to non-tender Maine (just a hunch) I think Nieve can be an effective starter. Later

="Kong76"] Look at the bright side. If you turn that on its edge, its infinity. Later

My kid got promoted to Brooklyn, but he's not in the lineup tonight. Later

I didn't know whether to laugh or cry. Makes me want to look for my old glove. Sigh. Later

I'd bet there will be a whole bunch of lawyers lining up to take that career-making (well, at least it would get them a lot of press) case pre-bono. Later

Sometimes the guys who drop are highly rated prospects who teams avoid drafting because of "signability issues". Then, because they drop, the slots in which they are chosen have lower slot price tags. I'm not sure if that is a vicious cycle or a self-fulfilling prophecy. Later

BG, here's a suggestion. Lay off the garlic sandwiches before going to sleep. Heartburn can cause dreams (nightmares?) like that. Later

Which leads me to another question. Ichiro has been in the majors for 9 years, and has amassed over 1,900 hits with a .330+ BA. If he plays only one more year here, do you think he will make the MLB Hall of Fame? Later

="Benjamin Grimm":3dnk2111]A long shot, but Ryan Coultas is 27 years old and has a 2.78 ERA in 11 starts at Binghamton. He's too old to be a "prospect" but maybe he can be a Mark Bomback or something.[/quote:3dnk2111] I saw him pitch this year. His best pitch seemed to be his changeup. He made some hitters look downright silly. He's recovring from arm problems. The difference in speed between his fastball and change might not be enough to do the same to major league hitters. But as he gets arm strength next year, he might be a possibility. Later Gwreck Aug 18 2009 09:11 PM ="Ashie62":2pgvuw5m]Dillon Gee[/quote:2pgvuw5m] Hurt Edgy DC Aug 18 2009 09:36 PM And not particularly effective this season. smg58 Aug 19 2009 08:42 AM I too have had enough of Livan, but there's nothing on the line and our options are nonexistent. Unlike Parnell, the guys we could call up a this point have no chance of being part of next year's rotation, so I see no benefit even looking ahead. As for Stokes, his .313/.420/.446 split against lefthanded batters is really not encouraging for a prospective starter, especially since he is a nice asset in the role he currently has. If we were much closer in the standings and I had to choose between Stokes and Livan I would give Stokes the ball. As it stands, Stokes is fine where he is and I see no point in messing with it. The fact that Livan and Tim Redding have managed to stay on the roster all year says everything about our injury luck that you need to know. And our luck has been even worse with the hitters. Sigh. Gwreck Aug 19 2009 10:38 AM Redding spent the first 6 weeks of the season on the DL. Edgy DC Aug 19 2009 11:32 AM ="smg58":15ha0jg1]If we were much closer in the standings and I had to choose between Stokes and Livan I would give Stokes the ball. As it stands, Stokes is fine where he is and I see no point in messing with it.[/quote:15ha0jg1] Do you think there's some risk of him being set back on his future potential as a reliever? smg58 Aug 19 2009 11:42 AM I think there's a small amount of injury risk anytime you stretch out a pitcher who's been making mostly one-inning appearances. With Parnell, the chance of him being a bigger asset in the rotation than he is in the pen is worth the risk to find out. I don't think Stokes has the same upside. Rockin' Doc Aug 19 2009 10:11 PM Edgy DC - "Seen enough of Livan?" Too much. Nymr83 Aug 19 2009 11:55 PM i don't care if Parnell gets shelled because we need to find out what Parnell can do for next year, but Livan isn't part of the future here and he isn't performing now so ship him out. I don't care who pitches in his place, as long as they are under 30 and we are at least getting valuable data as to who might be good for later. Frayed Knot Aug 20 2009 02:05 PM Well, we're going find out about life after Livan -- he was released today to make room for Billy Wags. Benjamin Grimm Aug 20 2009 02:32 PM Does that mean he's out of the rotation? John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 20 2009 03:16 PM Not to get my FEEEEELINGS into this but I hate Wagner and liked Livan, and can't believe Redding survives yet another day. Gwreck Aug 20 2009 03:21 PM I'd have at least given that next start to Figueroa instead of Redding. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 20 2009 03:27 PM ="Gwreck":h4fsyqqt]I'd have at least given that next start to Figueroa instead of Redding.[/quote:h4fsyqqt] If only MLB rules permitted, I would love to have given them both the start, trading off innings in a sort of Dueling-AAAAers hoedown. Alas. Do we get a 'Memories-of-Livan', or should I be headed to that Eternal Sunshine place to get 'em wiped?

I'll give it to you on this one. I remember hearing an interview last year with one of his Minor League teammates (don't remember which one)who was amazed that Bobby could throw harder late in games when he needed it. The 93 MPH heater went up to 97+ when he was in late inning trouble. Starter material fer shure. Later

="Gwreck":2z6al8a7]And so we go with Livan again? Ok, I guess. The season's lost anyway. But in the absence of prospects who would benefit from getting MLB experience, I'm not exactly opposed to skipping Livan next time.[/quote:2z6al8a7] I agree, but in the absence of such a prospect, I'd rather give the start to Figueroa insted of Dessens. Later Benjamin Grimm Aug 18 2009 08:05 AM Does anyone know if John Maine is still alive? John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 18 2009 08:20 AM I think he's out for the year. Speculation is the Mets could nontender him this winter so it could be auf wiedersehen. Irish got me all excited for the new season of PR, sorry. Benjamin Grimm Aug 18 2009 08:22 AM I developed a fondness for German while I was on vacation, so no need to apologize! I think Maine's past is far better than his future; a non-tender wouldn't trouble me in the least. Should be an interesting winter. (I think it will also be a frustrating one.) metirish Aug 18 2009 08:29 AM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket"]I think he's out for the year. Speculation is the Mets could nontender him this winter so it could be auf wiedersehen. Irish got me all excited for the new season of PR, sorry. I'm looking forward to it , just need to find where the Lifetime channel is on my dial.... this didn't make for good reading in the News the other day Project Runway Edgy DC Aug 18 2009 08:31 AM Could you guys get a private thread or something? Thanks! metirish Aug 18 2009 08:36 AM ="Edgy DC"]Could you guys get a private thread or something? Thanks! not every man can pull off red pants , I commend you on that ...... Gwreck Aug 18 2009 11:35 AM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket"]I think he's out for the year. Speculation is the Mets could nontender him this winter so it could be auf wiedersehen Seriously? I haven't seen any updated medical reports on him recently but that seems a bit rash, no? He's not exactly an expensive player ($2.6 M this year, and if they go back to arbitration he's not going to get more than the minimum raise). John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 18 2009 12:00 PM I dunno. He's been unreliable about as long as he's been reliable for us by now. I forget where I saw the nontender speculation (Rubin, prolly) but I guess we should prepare for it. Boneyard is full of once-promising guys with bad shoulders.

="Gwreck":34qetejl] How about giving Elmer Dessens a start next time around?[/quote:34qetejl] How about not? Later Gwreck Aug 17 2009 10:37 PM And so we go with Livan again? Ok, I guess. The season's lost anyway. But in the absence of prospects who would benefit from getting MLB experience, I'm not exactly opposed to skipping Livan next time. MFS62 Aug 18 2009 07:59 AM ="Gwreck":2z6al8a7]And so we go with Livan again? Ok, I guess. The season's lost anyway. But in the absence of prospects who would benefit from getting MLB experience, I'm not exactly opposed to skipping Livan next time.[/quote:2z6al8a7] I agree, but in the absence of such a prospect, I'd rather give the start to Figueroa insted of Dessens. Later Benjamin Grimm Aug 18 2009 08:05 AM Does anyone know if John Maine is still alive? John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 18 2009 08:20 AM I think he's out for the year. Speculation is the Mets could nontender him this winter so it could be auf wiedersehen. Irish got me all excited for the new season of PR, sorry. Benjamin Grimm Aug 18 2009 08:22 AM I developed a fondness for German while I was on vacation, so no need to apologize! I think Maine's past is far better than his future; a non-tender wouldn't trouble me in the least. Should be an interesting winter. (I think it will also be a frustrating one.) metirish Aug 18 2009 08:29 AM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket"]I think he's out for the year. Speculation is the Mets could nontender him this winter so it could be auf wiedersehen. Irish got me all excited for the new season of PR, sorry. I'm looking forward to it , just need to find where the Lifetime channel is on my dial.... this didn't make for good reading in the News the other day Project Runway Edgy DC Aug 18 2009 08:31 AM Could you guys get a private thread or something? Thanks! metirish Aug 18 2009 08:36 AM ="Edgy DC"]Could you guys get a private thread or something? Thanks! not every man can pull off red pants , I commend you on that ...... Gwreck Aug 18 2009 11:35 AM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket"]I think he's out for the year. Speculation is the Mets could nontender him this winter so it could be auf wiedersehen Seriously? I haven't seen any updated medical reports on him recently but that seems a bit rash, no? He's not exactly an expensive player ($2.6 M this year, and if they go back to arbitration he's not going to get more than the minimum raise). John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 18 2009 12:00 PM I dunno. He's been unreliable about as long as he's been reliable for us by now. I forget where I saw the nontender speculation (Rubin, prolly) but I guess we should prepare for it. Boneyard is full of once-promising guys with bad shoulders.

="Fman99":2fwzd1h1] Beats trying to wipe your ass with your foot. Trust me on this one.[/quote:2fwzd1h1] Thank you for that Kodak moment. Please spare us a link. Later John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 17 2009 09:42 PM Was unable to give away my ticket but crashed the Greg-and-Jason gathering and later had a Gwreck encounter. The remaining fans in the 9th, led by us I think, had a good AN-DY GREEN cheer happening. I had no idea how Sully was out by so much in the first, I mean, looked like another bad send by Razor by the time it finished but I thouight he'd have made it. Little bit of bad luck on the DPs, but we sure did a little with as many hits, walks and errors they gave us in the first 4-5 innings. Redding has been a complete disaster this year. Frayed Knot Aug 17 2009 09:51 PM I think Sully's one of those guys who - while not slow exactly - just isn't as fast as he looks like he should be. I didn't mind that send by Razor (1 out, we're not going to score being passive, etc.) but Rowand fielded that ball pretty shallow and made a good throw. Redding was a bit unlucky at first - a lot of bleeders and seeing eye hits - but then, after the damage had already started, he started getting hit hard and the carnage was in full force. Several of those DPs shouldn't have happened. Sheff mis-read the shit out of that one fly ball and Francoeur needed to freeze on the liner. Gwreck Aug 17 2009 10:09 PM Just a top-5 ugly game this year. How about giving Elmer Dessens a start next time around? MFS62 Aug 17 2009 10:22 PM ="Gwreck":34qetejl] How about giving Elmer Dessens a start next time around?[/quote:34qetejl] How about not? Later Gwreck Aug 17 2009 10:37 PM And so we go with Livan again? Ok, I guess. The season's lost anyway. But in the absence of prospects who would benefit from getting MLB experience, I'm not exactly opposed to skipping Livan next time. MFS62 Aug 18 2009 07:59 AM ="Gwreck":2z6al8a7]And so we go with Livan again? Ok, I guess. The season's lost anyway. But in the absence of prospects who would benefit from getting MLB experience, I'm not exactly opposed to skipping Livan next time.[/quote:2z6al8a7] I agree, but in the absence of such a prospect, I'd rather give the start to Figueroa insted of Dessens. Later Benjamin Grimm Aug 18 2009 08:05 AM Does anyone know if John Maine is still alive? John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 18 2009 08:20 AM I think he's out for the year. Speculation is the Mets could nontender him this winter so it could be auf wiedersehen. Irish got me all excited for the new season of PR, sorry. Benjamin Grimm Aug 18 2009 08:22 AM I developed a fondness for German while I was on vacation, so no need to apologize! I think Maine's past is far better than his future; a non-tender wouldn't trouble me in the least. Should be an interesting winter. (I think it will also be a frustrating one.) metirish Aug 18 2009 08:29 AM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket"]I think he's out for the year. Speculation is the Mets could nontender him this winter so it could be auf wiedersehen. Irish got me all excited for the new season of PR, sorry. I'm looking forward to it , just need to find where the Lifetime channel is on my dial.... this didn't make for good reading in the News the other day Project Runway Edgy DC Aug 18 2009 08:31 AM Could you guys get a private thread or something? Thanks! metirish Aug 18 2009 08:36 AM ="Edgy DC"]Could you guys get a private thread or something? Thanks! not every man can pull off red pants , I commend you on that ...... Gwreck Aug 18 2009 11:35 AM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket"]I think he's out for the year. Speculation is the Mets could nontender him this winter so it could be auf wiedersehen Seriously? I haven't seen any updated medical reports on him recently but that seems a bit rash, no? He's not exactly an expensive player ($2.6 M this year, and if they go back to arbitration he's not going to get more than the minimum raise). John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 18 2009 12:00 PM I dunno. He's been unreliable about as long as he's been reliable for us by now. I forget where I saw the nontender speculation (Rubin, prolly) but I guess we should prepare for it. Boneyard is full of once-promising guys with bad shoulders.

="Ashie62":jnm4o04x]Goodbye Cora..you served us well[/quote:jnm4o04x] Please 'splain, Lucy. I'm at work and not watching the game. What happened? Later themetfairy Aug 17 2009 07:51 PM There won't be much in the way of Schaefer suds awarded for this one. Frayed Knot Aug 17 2009 07:59 PM ="MFS62":268edg6n]="Ashie62":268edg6n]Goodbye Cora..you served us well[/quote:268edg6n] Please 'splain, Lucy. I'm at work and not watching the game. What happened?[/quote:268edg6n] Will have surgery on the torn ligaments in [u:268edg6n]both[/u:268edg6n] thumbs and is done for the season. Surgeries will be done at separate times - I guess so he doesn't have casts on both at the same time and be helplessly klutzly for weeks on end. themetfairy Aug 17 2009 07:59 PM This one is finally put out of our misery. What a fucking lackluster performance from these guys. Fman99 Aug 17 2009 08:48 PM ="Frayed Knot":1yqbark2]="MFS62":1yqbark2]="Ashie62":1yqbark2]Goodbye Cora..you served us well[/quote:1yqbark2] Please 'splain, Lucy. I'm at work and not watching the game. What happened?[/quote:1yqbark2] Will have surgery on the torn ligaments in [u:1yqbark2]both[/u:1yqbark2] thumbs and is done for the season. Surgeries will be done at separate times - I guess so he doesn't have casts on both at the same time and be helplessly klutzly for weeks on end.[/quote:1yqbark2] Beats trying to wipe your ass with your foot. Trust me on this one. MFS62 Aug 17 2009 09:22 PM ="Fman99":2fwzd1h1] Beats trying to wipe your ass with your foot. Trust me on this one.[/quote:2fwzd1h1] Thank you for that Kodak moment. Please spare us a link. Later John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 17 2009 09:42 PM Was unable to give away my ticket but crashed the Greg-and-Jason gathering and later had a Gwreck encounter. The remaining fans in the 9th, led by us I think, had a good AN-DY GREEN cheer happening. I had no idea how Sully was out by so much in the first, I mean, looked like another bad send by Razor by the time it finished but I thouight he'd have made it. Little bit of bad luck on the DPs, but we sure did a little with as many hits, walks and errors they gave us in the first 4-5 innings. Redding has been a complete disaster this year. Frayed Knot Aug 17 2009 09:51 PM I think Sully's one of those guys who - while not slow exactly - just isn't as fast as he looks like he should be. I didn't mind that send by Razor (1 out, we're not going to score being passive, etc.) but Rowand fielded that ball pretty shallow and made a good throw. Redding was a bit unlucky at first - a lot of bleeders and seeing eye hits - but then, after the damage had already started, he started getting hit hard and the carnage was in full force. Several of those DPs shouldn't have happened. Sheff mis-read the shit out of that one fly ball and Francoeur needed to freeze on the liner. Gwreck Aug 17 2009 10:09 PM Just a top-5 ugly game this year. How about giving Elmer Dessens a start next time around? MFS62 Aug 17 2009 10:22 PM ="Gwreck":34qetejl] How about giving Elmer Dessens a start next time around?[/quote:34qetejl] How about not? Later Gwreck Aug 17 2009 10:37 PM And so we go with Livan again? Ok, I guess. The season's lost anyway. But in the absence of prospects who would benefit from getting MLB experience, I'm not exactly opposed to skipping Livan next time. MFS62 Aug 18 2009 07:59 AM ="Gwreck":2z6al8a7]And so we go with Livan again? Ok, I guess. The season's lost anyway. But in the absence of prospects who would benefit from getting MLB experience, I'm not exactly opposed to skipping Livan next time.[/quote:2z6al8a7] I agree, but in the absence of such a prospect, I'd rather give the start to Figueroa insted of Dessens. Later Benjamin Grimm Aug 18 2009 08:05 AM Does anyone know if John Maine is still alive? John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 18 2009 08:20 AM I think he's out for the year. Speculation is the Mets could nontender him this winter so it could be auf wiedersehen. Irish got me all excited for the new season of PR, sorry. Benjamin Grimm Aug 18 2009 08:22 AM I developed a fondness for German while I was on vacation, so no need to apologize! I think Maine's past is far better than his future; a non-tender wouldn't trouble me in the least. Should be an interesting winter. (I think it will also be a frustrating one.) metirish Aug 18 2009 08:29 AM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket"]I think he's out for the year. Speculation is the Mets could nontender him this winter so it could be auf wiedersehen. Irish got me all excited for the new season of PR, sorry. I'm looking forward to it , just need to find where the Lifetime channel is on my dial.... this didn't make for good reading in the News the other day Project Runway Edgy DC Aug 18 2009 08:31 AM Could you guys get a private thread or something? Thanks! metirish Aug 18 2009 08:36 AM ="Edgy DC"]Could you guys get a private thread or something? Thanks! not every man can pull off red pants , I commend you on that ...... Gwreck Aug 18 2009 11:35 AM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket"]I think he's out for the year. Speculation is the Mets could nontender him this winter so it could be auf wiedersehen Seriously? I haven't seen any updated medical reports on him recently but that seems a bit rash, no? He's not exactly an expensive player ($2.6 M this year, and if they go back to arbitration he's not going to get more than the minimum raise). John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 18 2009 12:00 PM I dunno. He's been unreliable about as long as he's been reliable for us by now. I forget where I saw the nontender speculation (Rubin, prolly) but I guess we should prepare for it. Boneyard is full of once-promising guys with bad shoulders.

Had dinner last Sunday in Shelton, CT. which is the home of the Wiffle Ball. The factory is still there, right off Route. 8 at exit 13. Later

Seems like the Mets are damned if they do (Put a guy on the DL immediately) or damned of they don't (they delay). It sells newspapers, I guess. Later

Yes, but as you said, he's Mike Lamb. Like you, I would have preferred Evans (or another hitter with some pop). Later

From the time I first saw his name on the Buffalo roster, I've had this feeling that I'd be seeing Mike f'n Lamb with the big club this year. At least that still hasn't happened ..... yet. Later

="DocTee":301wp02z] The Polish Prince able to identify the numbers easily.[/quote:301wp02z] Fuck! Just the mention of him means the Mets will lose. His dark cloud is that powerful. EDIT: Castillo homers? Maybe our own mysterious forces are at work. Later bmfc1 Aug 16 2009 01:02 PM How the hell do you get picked off when the pitcher is trying to sacrifice? The only SF run was due to a lack of range by Hernandez (or even the brains/ability to dive and smother the ball). Oh, how he does stink. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 16 2009 01:03 PM AndyNandy adds a CS (Leaving early on the sac bunt by Pelf? Ill-advised steal attempt?) to match his terrible, no-good, very bad glove day (1 error, iffy positioning/range and 2-3 other sailed throws, saved by Murphy.) On the plus side... Pelf strong like bull (and batting in the 7th!). metirish Aug 16 2009 01:18 PM My Mets attention span might not be what it used to be but Keith just said that this game is a " very important game for both teams , probably more so for the giants"....was he talking about the Mets or another team in another series ongoing? Frayed Knot Aug 16 2009 01:28 PM Sergio Romo in to pitch for the Giants ... does he go out with Ashley Simpson? John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 16 2009 01:46 PM I demand a walkoff win. Frayed Knot Aug 16 2009 01:50 PM I was just about to say that I don't think we've had a walk-off since about May sometime. bmfc1 Aug 16 2009 01:52 PM ="metirish":14sy2iac]My Mets attention span might not be what it used to be but Keith just said that this game is a " very important game for both teams , probably more so for the giants"....was he talking about the Mets or another team in another series ongoing?[/quote:14sy2iac] Howie Rose just said that this was a "biiiiig game, especially for the Giants." Frayed Knot Aug 16 2009 01:52 PM Don't bunt, steal instead. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Aug 16 2009 01:59 PM MUFF! That helps. A little. metsguyinmichigan Aug 16 2009 01:59 PM MURPH!!!!!!!! bmfc1 Aug 16 2009 01:59 PM Suck on that, Matt Cain Frayed Knot Aug 16 2009 02:00 PM Deee-livered! John Cougar Lunchbucket Aug 16 2009 02:00 PM ="bmfc1":2nb32ub0]Suck on that, Matt Cain[/quote:2nb32ub0] Yeah! bmfc1 Aug 16 2009 02:03 PM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 16 2009 02:16 PM Tweeted picture: http://twitpic.com/e5jpl Wright to the DL. PiggiesTomatoes Aug 16 2009 02:13 PM A happy recap! Yeeha. If for no other reason, Giants deserve to lose for the landing strip on Affeldt. I half expected to see female genitalia under there. Gwreck Aug 16 2009 02:18 PM ="bmfc1":94fjhprc]Tweeted picture: http://twitpic.com/e5jpl[/quote:94fjhprc] Nice picture. And nice seats, too. Promenade club? bmfc1 Aug 16 2009 02:24 PM Thanks, but it's not my picture--it was posted on Twitter within a minute after the game. Valadius Aug 16 2009 02:34 PM Just got home from the game. My dad and I stayed through the 6th inning, he just couldn't take the heat anymore. Castillo really CRUSHED that ball. I was so pissed off when the Giants broke up the no-hitter. But all in all, a nice day at the ballpark, and the Shake Shack burgers were delicious as usual. DocTee Aug 16 2009 03:24 PM BMFC: Kuiper and Krukow were ragging on some dude in a chef's hat down the LF line in the first two innings. He was sporting a FAFIF retired numbers tee, that Krukow was able to decipher.