Johnny Lunchbucket

Edgy MD wrote: Frayed Knot wrote: Edgy MD wrote: I think maybe the team might have done well to pinch-run for Vogelbach. I'm "watching" on radio, so please forgive me if I irrationally think that the right guy might have scored three different times. Most runners don't score on that and sending almost anyone with no outs would have been foolish. Pinch-running Jankowski for the DH in the middle of the game would have also had the potential to complicate using Travis for defense later, for what that's worth. Please forgive me, as the offensive dearth had tempted me to pinch-run as soon as as we get that big fellow on base, and maybe tell Travis to try to score from first on anything in the dirt. And having watched him on the basepaths, I wanna say that not only does he kinda tiptoe like Ruth, but also, he's "deceptively slow" so maybe slow, yeah. But not as slow as you think, and so, in that sense he's... fast. He also reached not only reached base twice in his 1st 3 appearances but reached 3rd base twice in 3 appearances+ even with an ugly slide, he slid in home and was safe

Edgy MD wrote: That's a bad reflection upon the assistant traveling secretary. Even worse, what a week to have just traded for the guy, on my Baseball Staff Fantasy League, and because I thought he was a good pont-scorer in the "passports, tickets and other essential documents" category. I suck!

Like, not for nothing, but VoGo so far tonight is like, 3+ weeks of recent-vintage Dom Smith

Pete Alonso!!!

Oh hey, look. 2nd and 3rd, nobody out.

I'm stuck by Voelbach's resemblance to the Babe. Like he almost even runs like him

On the radio, Wayne just recited every answer in the diabolical Venezuelan Pitcher Kwiz

Vogelbach. Now your turn. If we get enough, then it's a separate thread: Mets Battle Royale

Babe looks determined, but also knows when he's beaten.

And now... the Babe

Hey look! It's Vogelbach... and it's Guillorme not Escobar at third base

I don't buy #5 as an excuse. If a trade was IMMINENT you keep him out the lineup that day, but this is still a pennant race and with the game on the line in the 9th inning if he is still on the roster, which he was, he is hitting there. Not buying #6 either. Nido's career is best defined as prolonged slump. a slumping McNeil still should hit there. it needs to be injury related. yeah. he'd have been traded by now if it was #5, or at least, we'd have news. Again I ain't either saying what it, or what it isn't, I'm only trying to get a handle on the many things it could be. And I haven't crossed any off the list, what I want is more of them. And "we'd have heard about 5" does seem awfully likely, but: --Cohen is the richest guy in the world and one reason he's the richest guy in the world is that, at some level, directly AND indirectly, it's hard to become the richest guy in the world without also being exceptionally good at "knowing something the others don't know" and keeping secrets if only for his personal safety, much less something as inconsequential as a baseball trade. --It takes two to trade "he'd be traded already," well only if the other tem had agreed or not agreed at the time that potential AB came up. For all we know at that moment, Billy is about to close a deal but something came-on either side, or with anyone else who might be involved. --And the obvious, right? Any trade involving a starting all star is going be a giant one, and also, a complicated giant one Also not saying 6 is or isn't a thing, but it's quite possible theoretically, that through technology or whatever they've identified what they believe is at the heart of McNeil's "slumping," AND McNeil knows this as well, but he's just hasn't demonstrated to have "corrected" for that to anyone's satisfaction yet. Why couldn't that be a thing? Swings and timing are complicated things, that's why only super athletes can do them

So, the Updated Theories: So so far. The Theories. 1. Nido was actually the better option. 2. He's in Bucks doghouse--but why? 3. He's hurt 4. He's hurt, but only kinda hurt 5. He's actually fine, only there's a trade in the works--and it's built around McNeil 6. He's been slumping, and who'd know better than Buck if he's "still slumping"?

=smg58 post_id=100793 time=1658679457 user_id=62] McNeil has been slumping all month, whether from injury or just slumping, and Showalter decided keeping the righthanded bat in against the lefty Rogers was the best option. You can agree or disagree with it -- personally, I disagree with it strongly -- but I don't think reading a whole lot into it is required. The bigger issue is do we have enough righthanded depth on the bench.

So so far. The Theories. 1. Nido was actually the better option. 2. He's in Bucks doghouse--but why? 3. He's hurt 4. He's hurt, but only kinda hurt 5. He's actually fine, only there's a trade in the works--and it's built around McNeil

https://nypost.com/2022/07/24/buck-showalter-lets-jeff-mcneil-rest-with-mets-game-on-line/https://nypost.com/2022/07/24/buck-showalter-lets-jeff-mcneil-rest-with-mets-game-on-line/ So, I'm "splitting" from the Game thread. and there I said "I didn't even realize McNeil was an option because I wasn't paying full attention to the whole game (unsaid was that I'd just assumed not to listen for it because with the game on the line and your worst hitter up and he's hurt, McNeil must not be an option because he's not batting here.) To which Ceeter replied: [bLOCKQUOTE]McNeil has been Schrödinger's hurt for months. but you cant' let Nido bat there. Gary was opening questioning if he was even healthy enough to swing the bat (which he did) during AB. So a bad hitter with an injury is who we're giving those AB too.[/bLOCKQUOTE] Which mean's I dunno because i confess I don;t realize what "Schrödinger's hurt" is. But if it means he's in Buck's Doghouse then-- what other explanation is there? So this is a thread where Wild Speculation is encouraged. So, "it's because we're approaching the trade deadline" could be an option.

Frayed Knot wrote: Thought we'd see Vogelbach here. And what about McNeil? This was one of those games where for various reasons I had to see in bits whether with radio out back, TV, phone etc, so saw much/also missed much. So what I guess I didn't realize here, or didn't hear/occur to me was that McNeil was also an option. I know--lefty starter. And lefty closer. But, he was also a starting All-Star, and Nido was not. And Nido might be hurt. And regardless, he arguably could have been an option to have PH for anyone who batted that inning, but Nido, with the game on the line. Is McNeil also hurt? And why was Buck was cagey when asked about the Nido v McNeil decision? Essentially he granted only the obvious-- McNeil was an option. And Nido was an option.

Oh fuck. Like the SHaMs are a dumpster fire

It's it's immediately 0-2. Let us pray

It's a bloop single for the King of Whatever, JD Davis. Now it's 1st and 3rd for Nido, the Duke of the Unexpected RBI Clutch Hit. But also, the King of We Need A Better Hitting Catcher And I Think He Is Hurt

And it's the Prince, who deeats the King. And so it's up to Luis Guillorme, the King of Dark Horse Mets

And its a fly ball to the warning track for Cahna, and now, it's the king of warning track flies, Escobar. Who's also the Prince of "strikeouts when you need a hit." .

So we're in the 9th, down by 2, and it begins like 5 other of the 8, with a leadoff runner.

=G-Fafif post_id=100753 time=1658626428 user_id=55] Carreon springs to mind as 32. Eli Marrero maybe as well?

=Methead post_id=100735 time=1658623525 user_id=61] Oh, your question said 42, so I took it literally instead of realizing you meant 32. That's on me.