stevejrogers

Yeah but we all know how that turned out eventually!

soupcan wrote: ="Yancy Street Gang"]Vic, you're absolutely correct. Good observation. Why anyone listens to Mike and the Mad Dog is beyond me. It's entertaining, it's sportstalk. Can say the same for any talk radio program. Ron Kuby said he was set to pop open a special champagne bottle when Ronald Regan died, Lord knows how many insults a Bob Grant, Michael Savage, ect have hurled on the other side as well. Ditto with even the "humor" shows like Opie and Anthony, Stern, Imus, ect. It gets to the point where your only two alternatives are music and 24 hour news stations.

soupcan wrote: Not posting it. Tomorrow. 7:30. Loge. I'll squeal for a Heineken. Going to be in the Mezz. Not a big fan of the Mezz's lack of dividers in the isle, may come down for a few innings and have some beers.

Woops! Ummm, I'm sorry but upon further review, Mr. Hartman was the Matt Lauer of 30 years ago on "Good Morning America" But still going from Network Morning Show Hosts to iconic actors, rock stars, politicians ect is quite a step up. Though I'd love to know what he was doing in full uniform. He shows up again in the "Faces at Shea" page in the dugout. I guess doing a story or something. BTW, what year did Chico Escuala debut on SNL? Garrett wore aunthetic Met garb doing those bits as well.

BTW, the player could also be representing John Milner as the Yanks would only play the Mets in ST.

Now here is my questions though, the book is about NYC in 1977, not just the Yankees. They do mention Son of Sam and Jimmy Breslin, but how much attention to the rest of the book are they going to give? Are Bella Abzug, Ed Koch and Mario Cuomo going to be seen campaiging in Yankee Stadium? Also, I wonder if 6/15/1977 is going to be covered? It actually is in the book, granted you can't fit everything in and all, but I do wonder if it will be mentioned.

It looks like a generic player, though quick look through the 1978 yearbook suggests it looks a bit like Roy Lee Jackson! But that uni does look legit for 1977 Thats from Stevie Henderson's first major league homer BTW, and actor David Hartman is palling with Torre in that shot (heh, 30 years and Torre is hanging with a better wannabes I guess!)

ABG wrote: The question to ask is: Would they cancel if it were Jeter? The answer is they absolutely would. They should do the same for Lidle. Think about what you just said. Derek Jeter, all jokes, all shots, all comparisions aside is one of the biggest known athletes in the world TODAY. Cory Lidle, a journyman lefty who played with a number of teams through the years, probably would have gotten a "Benson Bunch" style contract this offseason but beyond that he was just a pretty darn effective major league pitcher. Now do you want to agrue that because a God Forbid Jeter tragic passing would cause a game cancelation that they should do the same for Lidle? I'm not even saying they would for Jeter, maybe in a news sense they would cancel the New York game, but the situations are too completely different situations. Is (also God Forbid on both) David Wright or Victor Zambrano

="Yancy Street Gang"]If the weather was clear they definitely should have played. I would have been shocked and annoyed if it was canceled because of this plane crash. Agree completely. Moment of silence for the passing of an Ex-Met (sure two, three eras removed but still an Ex-Met nonetheless) but the NLCS game being postponed due to it? I could realistically (not a good idea either, but I can see it) see the A's doing it as he was there for 2001-2002 and some of his teammates are still there.

Easy Soupy. I may know where to find you on Friday, and I may take some beers! =

See you Friday night...maybe... =

soupcan wrote: ="SteveJRogers"]Playing Strat-o-matic with his brother! Well you're correct but I was hoping that someone who actually remembered reading it in the paper the next day was going to answer it. How do you know that Steve? I'm assuming you were too young to have seen it in print at that time. 29

cleonjones11 wrote: OK....time's up.. Couldnt he have flown the Yankee plane? He was always kind of wild The Yankes attack NY and scramble NORAD... Yankees get the Papers again tomorrow.. No time is NOT up. That was worse than me using an inappropriate word in a Thurman Munson anniversary tribute thread.

1973's Bob L. Miller car crash

Edgy DC wrote: Certainly there are others. Nino Espinosa on Christmas Eve 1987. Almost-Met Brian Cole. I thought Nino was a heart attack or something natural?

I believe the second Met to die in a transportation accident. Danny Frisella via a dune buggy accident is the other

Sandgnat wrote: Clearly the Bush Administration was behind this crash to scare people about the ongoing terrorist threat so they vote for Republicans in November. Please delete

RIP

soupcan wrote: Here's a question that I didn't see the answer to on the 'memories of the game' at UMDB - Anybody remember Dykstra's quote when asked if he ever hit a homerun that big/dramatic prior to that one? Playing Strat-o-matic with his brother!

7 straight postseason series though. That includes the 1980 and 1986 NLCSs Dodgers lost 7 straight WS (last five to the MFY) before winning the 1955 WS! I'm pretty sure that has to be the record for one round with never winning one, untill winning, will look it up when I feel like it! =

NLCS Moves to Shea 10/11, The Len Dykstra game. Nails hits the game winner homer as the Mets win 6-5 and take a 2-1 series lead. Ron Darling gives up 4 early runs, but the pen holds the Astros to only two more, giving the Mets the oppertunity to chip away and get the win. 10/12, The next night however belonged to Mike Scott who went all the way on a 3 hitter, and giving up one run as the Astros won 3-1 to even the series. Game 5 was rained out for the Monday the 13th and rescheduled on the 14th, which is where the 1986 Mets Postseason Flashbacks will pick up again.

Yup. And all three, 1996, 1998 and 1999 to the New York Yankees

Mets won their third Divisional Series in three tries, snapping a tie with the Florida Marlins for most series wins without dropping a series (yeah small sample size, but still) Did you know, who holds the record for most Divisional Series losses without ever winning a single series

Hillbilly wrote: Word is that Darryl Strawberry will throw out the ceremonial first pitch for Game 1. Seems like an odd choice, but it's sure to piss off long time Card fans. Maybe Keith should be on tap for game two! I wonder if Tom Seaver is on tap, or are they saving The Franchise for the WS?

Cardinal Knowledge: I called the Dodgers the class of the NL because of the sheer amount of postseason appearances and the social and cultural significance of the Dodgers, from Brooklyn to Los Angeles. But in terms of Postseason success, the St Louis Cardinals have been the most dominant franchise in the history of the NL. � One of 6 franchises to make some form of postseason play 20 or more times (Yankees 46, Dodgers 31, Giants 25, Braves 23, A�s 23) with 22 apperances. � 9 World Championships leads National League team, and is second (tied with the A�s though) only to the Yankees� 26 We start the history lesson in 1926. Led by Rogers Hornsby the Cards upset the Yankees in a 7 game classic. Known for Grover Alexander striking out Tony Lazzeri with the bases loaded, but what is less known (thanks to Hollywood) is the fact that the series ended on Babe Ruth being thrown out stealing 2nd! Just Babe being Babe, trying to use the element of surprise. The Cards and Yanks rematched in 1928, though this time the Yankees got their revenge and swept the Cardinals, it was the Yankees second consecutive sweep of a World Series. The Cardinals returned to the series in 1930 and 1931, both times matching up with another dynastic squad, the Philadelphia Athletics of Foxx, Grove, Cochrane and Simmons vintage. The Cards took the A�s to a game 6 in 1930 Connie Mack�s last dynasty would be the last non-Yankee back-to-back champion until the Oakland A�s of the �70�s. The Cardinals would beat the A�s a year later 7 games, and stamped their Red label on the era in 1934 in 7 games against the Tigers. Known as �The Gashouse Gang�, led by Hall of Famers Frankie Frisch, Dizzy Dean, Joe Medwick, along with Pepper Martin, and Leo Durocher (in Hall due to managing career) this Cardinal team left a strong impression on the Depression era Middle America and to this day remains well known as a colorful and damn good squad. By the time of the 1940�s the Gashouse Gang was, well, out of gas. It was time for a new era of Cardinal baseball, and a fan base known as Cardinal Nation thanks to the blanket across the country of radio station KMOX, looked towards a man to lead. Actually, The Man, Stan Musial. While not a great postseason performer, Musial was the leader on a great squad that included Enos Slaughter, Walker Cooper, Marty Marion, and star hurler Mort Cooper who would wear the uniform number of what number win he was gunning for (Try figuring those out for a CBTN.net!) Meeting an old nemesis in 42 and 43 the Cards beat the Yanks in 5, but lost to the Yanks in 5 the next year. By the way, 1943 is the very first World Series to be captured by an official film. Done as a program to be watched, and enjoyed, by soldiers overseas. Its available on DVD, either on the Cardinal set or the Yankee set. 1944 the Cards won their third straight NL championship, and beat the Browns in the last World Series to be played entirely in one ballpark, as Sportsman Park hosted all six games. Done previous in 1921 and 1922 when the Polo Grounds was the home to both the Yankees and Giants. In 1946, after dispatching the Dodgers in a 2 game play-in series, the Cards beat the Boston Red Sox in 7 games. The Sox losing in 7 would become a reoccurring theme throughout the years! In this instance the Sox were done in by Johnny Pesky�s hesitation as Enos Slaughter was dashing home with the Series winning run. The Cardinals of the Post-War years fell on hard times. The Dodgers would take over the mantle of �Best Team in The League� and the Cardinals were regulated to also ran status. Finishing 2nd from 47-49, and 3rd from 51-53 the Cards were re-tooling. By 1964 they had the makings of a championship caliber team once again. In the first Non-Musial year since Pearl Harbor, the Cardinal team, led by the great Bob Gibson, Lou Brock, and even some former and current Mets on the pitching staff! (Ray Sadecki, Roger Craig, and Ron Taylor) They would knock off the Yankees in 7 games, sending the Bombers into a tailspin that would take until 1976 for them to recover from. Often, the win by the Cards is viewed as a culturally significant moment in baseball history, which includes a David Halberstam book on the subject called October 1964. Also noteworthy in the Cardinals winning the NL pennant as the Phillies made what is considered the biggest collapse in baseball history. 1967 and 1968 was a continuation of the legacy of Robert Gibson. In his prime, the great Gibson would shatter World Series records, and cement his legacy as one of baseball�s Big Game Hurlers. The Cardinals beat the Red Sox in 7 in 1967, derailing the �Impossible Dream� Sox, however they lost to the Tigers in 7 in 1968. As the Gibson era drew to a close, so did the Cards� dominance. While the 70�s saw some respectable finishes, the Cardinals were never really much of a factor in the NL East. That was until Whitey Herzog came on board in the 1980�s. In 1981 the Cardinals finished with the best record in the NL at 59-43 but were in second at the time of the strike, and were nudged out of the second half by the Expos! 1982 would be different. The Cardinals, now led with a combination of speed and professional hitting known as �Whitey Ball� won the East and swept the Braves in 3 games in the NLCS. Then led by hitting stars Keith Hernandez and Willie McGee and the pitching of Joaquin Andjuar and Bruce Sutter, the Cardinals beat the Milwaukee Brewers in 7 games. It would be the Cardinal franchise�s 9th World Championship. While the Cardinals are considered one of the dominant teams of the decade, they were a little uneven during the next few years. They would beat the Mets in two classic regular season races in both 1985 and 1987. 1985 the Cardinals parlayed their 101 win season into a classic NLCS against the Dodgers. Famous moments include a stunning homer by Ozzie Smith to send the series back to LA for Game 6. The Red Birds would be stunned though in the World Series by Whitey Herzog�s old team, the Kansas City Royals in 7 games. While no one should take away from Bret Saberhagen�s vintage performances, many believe Don Denkinger�s blown call cost the Cardinals the series. Injuries riddled the team in 1986, and the Cardinals never did recover from an April sweep by the Mets, but they would rebound in 1987, and beat the Giants in 7 games in the NLCS. However the World Series saw the Minnesota Twins have the home field advantage, and they used that advantage to win all 4 home games. That was the swan song for that Cardinal run, they would have a decent run with Joe Torre at the helm in the early 1990�s, but by the end of 1995 Torre was history. Enter Tony LaRussa. In 1996 LaRussa�s Cardinals won the first of 6 Central Division titles. All told the Cards have won 9 divisions, tied with the Pirates and Dodgers, and trailing only the Braves (16), Yankees (15) and A�s (14). In 1996 the Cardinals dusted the Padres in 3 games, but lost the NLCS in 7 games to the Braves. The Cardinals fell to 4th in 1997, 3rd in 1998 and 4th again in 1999. The Cards then rebounded in 2000 and were the first team to knock off the Atlanta Braves in the Divisional Series round in a stunning sweep. They were promptly ousted in the LCS by the Mets in 5 games. Because of a tie breaker the Cardinals wound up the Wild Card in 2001, and the Astros won the Central, and the Cardinals were defeated by the Diamondbacks in 5 games. The Cardinals returned to the Central crown in 2002, and returned the favor with a 3 game sweep, yet were promptly ousted in the LCS again in 5, this time to the San Francisco Giants. 2003 would see the Cards fall to 3rd, but rebounded with a 105 win season in 2004. They ripped through the Dodgers in 4 games, and had a 7 game classic NLCS against the Astros. Only to be the team that the Red Sox swept to win their first World Series since 1918! The Cardinals� 16 appearances in the Fall Classic ties them with the Giants, and trails the Yankees� 39 and Dodgers 18 all time. 2005 saw another 100 win season, and another dismantling of a Western Division champion in the NLDS, this time the Padres in a sweep. This time the Astros wound up winning a 6 game classic in the NLCS. And as we know the Cardinals had a rough 2006 regular season, fell into the Central championship as the Astros wilted during the final weekend. They took apart the Padres in 4 games, only the Yankees (8) have won more Divisional Series than the Cardinals and Braves at 6. 2006 is now their 8th appearance in the NLCS, good for 7th overall, and 4th among NL teams.