Mets � Willets Point wrote: I remember when I used to participate in Schaeffer points, everyone would give 5 to 6 points to Tom Glavine every outing and would tear me several new assholes when I would give him fewer points. That's why I don't participate anymore, it's not the worth the headaches. I have never understood this complaint (and I don't mean to pick on you, WP, personally, as you are not the only person who as voiced it). This is a discussion board, your Schaefer vote isn't sacred, and someone questioning it is not personally offending you. I can recollect several interesting discussions regarding Schaefer voting but nothing uncivil, although perhaps my memory is faulty.