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CORA is the tying run aboard...who is ready for another Jason Bay Clutch-Failure?

well the pen, particularly Nieve (and i think Feliciano) have been overused by Jerry, and these are the results. If you think its ugly now wait until August when Nieve has pitched 65 of the Mets 100 games played.

metirish wrote: Swan Swan H wrote: Every time I see Dallas Braden open his mouth he takes one giant step closer to being on the wrong side of this pissing contest with Alex Rodriguez. Rodriguez was wrong, he know what he was doing was wrong, and he has a rap sheet on this kind of thing that's longer than Dirk Diggler, but Braden has found a way to get people to pay attention to him that his career hadn't been able to do, and he's going to milk this bullshit until it gives blood. What's that you say, Irish? Handbags at ten paces? Yep , ten paces....Braden has achieved the seemingly impossible and made Rodriguez the lesser asshole in this. And today he threw a perfect game.

mets get a little help from mother nature there

Ike flips over the railing and holds on!! Daniel who?

bad news indeed, but more importantly why the FUCK is she on radio? get her on TV now!!

nice job by Pelf throwing to 3rd with no hesitation on the bunt. and the doubleplay ends the threat!

HEADS UP play by Whiteside to swing at the pitchout and a) protect the runner get on with the catcher's interference (if that part was intentional)

7.11 The players, coaches or any member of an offensive team shall vacate any space (including both dugouts) needed by a fielder who is attempting to field a batted or thrown ball. Hmm, didn't realize it specifically mentioned the dugouts. I always assumed once the fielder weas basically 'out of play' you could do what you want. He certainly can't step into the dugout to make the play. If its Jeter, we'd even forgive you if you tasered him.

IKE!!

You'd have to say that this is a pretty brutal line for Kiko Calero: 1.1 IP; 7 ER; 8 H; 1 HR; 1 K -- but 0 BB so, y'know, it's not ALL bad 6 more runs today in 1/3 of an inning. NOT READY

[crossout:1h4noipf]Or get cowboys with lassos.[/crossout:1h4noipf] as FK said, you're onto something. They should wear team colors and come charging out of the bullpen like fake knights at Medieval Times! Mr. Met can mount the lead horse if time permits. Oh, and if the horse shits on the field the idiot gets to clean it up.

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Incredibly bright sun on the field; incredibly cold wind on my neck at the Bobby Jones Game. i had "back row loge" for that game so no wind... and no view of anything in the air.

i cant read scoreboards

I like Citi, but I miss Shea. There aren't any seats at Citi (i've walked around the joint more than i've sat down so far) that quite have the same great baseball feeling as the upper deck behind the plate at shea. and it was just so OPEN up there, the sharply angled seating bowl helped i'm sure, was it the highest seats in the majors?

Billingsley is getting handed his ass with 4 runs in the first inning right now philly getting shut out was nice

You know what would be a more effective deterrent than tasers? Lifetime ban from all ballparks. its unenforceable, unless you want to require a birth certificate, photo id, and social security card to enter a ballpark (hell, we couldnt even keep a guy on a "no fly list" from getting on a plane!)

according to this morning's paper, the crowd chanted "tase him" at the new idiot last night. Gwreck, you are quoting study that focussed on one particular model of stun gun, also whats up with this? But since 2001, there have been more than 380 deaths following police Taser strikes in the United States and 26 in Canada. Medical examiners have ruled that a Taser was a cause, contributing factor or could not be ruled out in more than 30 of those deaths then what happened in the other 350? was the taser ruled out? then why are they even being mentioned? so we've got 30 deaths in 7 years (article 2008), an unknown number of which (unknown because the article doesnt say and i dont have access to the individual reports) the taser didnt necessarily do anything but "couldn't be ruled out" this still looks "safe" to me given the number of times tasers get used. this artcile also focuses on one model, making it generally useless for eveluating anything else

You're on fire tonight. you must be bringing it out When he's an actual threat to harm somebody and the taser becomes a necessary risk. He wasn't i disagree that he wasnt a threat, and i disagree about hte perceived threat some of you seem to be placing on tasers. they are pretty damn safe, see here: http://www.news-medical.net/news/2007/10/09/30945.aspx No, I would not tase him because of something somebody else did. i'm sure you know that i was demonstrating that i wouldn't wait until after the guy attacked someone What does "give the benefit of the doubt to" mean? Assuming a greater threat than is apparent and shooting is wreckless and it gets people killed. it means he is alreadt breaking the law running on the field and i'm not giing him the benefit of the doubt that he isnt going to hurt someone. you use the word "shooting" here as if in the context of a gun, a taser is not a gun and has rarely if ever killed anyone. the study i quoted said 2 or 3 serious injuries (1 was an unclear link) out of 1,000. i'd guess there'd be that many if a guy got tackled to the ground by police. i think the main disagreement here seems to be over the danger inherent in a taser (and thus when its use is appropriate). while groups like amnesty international claim they are more deadly weapons, i can't find any actual study showing this to be the case. the only study i can find is the Wake Forest University Baptist Medical Center study quoted in my link above. do you have proof they are more dangerous than that?

he's a good 'ol southern boy in the big city, its like a movie... only his father is a police chief, so wtf?

he was running around trying to evade security, at what point are YOU ready to taze him? not after something like this i hope- Besides Gamboa, an umpire was assaulted in a seperate incident (Jerry was there, coaching the White Sox i think). how many of these wackos do we give the benefit of the doubt to? When security comes after you, you can a) stop running and do as they say, or accept the consequences, and i think a tazer is a reasonable consequence when you are running away from police.

It depends. If the guy was resisting in some way - other than just being a stupid drunk who is having fun until he's caught and goes quietly - then it's one thing. But tasers occasionally kill people and I prefer cops/security folks didn't pick that as their first option based on the premise that he might do something or because it's easier than chasing him. what would you consider "goes quietly"? remember that clown who slugged a coach? (i think a white sox game?) running away from the authorities is enough for me, you don't belong on the field and you know it. security/police should not have to give you the benefit of the doubt when you are already trespassing and risk the safety of the teams' personnel or their own safety. plus, he's a phillies fan, so taze his ass.

Brian Schnieder? what about Omir Santos? Josh Thole? me neither. this guy is smacking them like he's Piazza and its the Steroid Era.

G-Fafif wrote: Since turning 40, Moyer has lost to the Mets four times, the same number as Niekro and Spahn. The only 40-plus pitcher to lose to the Mets more -- Randy Johnson, five times.

well the Mets squandered chances and are now down 6-0, its likely over with the complete game machine on the mound