Benjamin Grimm

At least, anyone who reads the comments will have additional evidence of his idiocy. I love how he KNOWS the Mets are in the shadow of the Yankees because he's from New York (like you're not) and the fans feel animosity. Doesn't that cut both ways? If two fan bases don't like each other, how does it prove that one is in the shadow of the other, and not the other way around?

Well, I just now read the visitor comments, anyway. Nice job by Edgy, but it's probably fruitless to argue with an idiot.

That doesn't exactly make me want to read it.

All three games from this past weekend's series in the Bronx will close some time on Wednesday. Schaefer POTG 6/12/09 - MFYs 9, Mets 8Schaefer POTG 6/13/09 - Mets 6, MFYs 2Schaefer POTG 6/14/09 - Mets sniffle, MFYs 15

VOTING FOR THIS GAME IS NOW CLOSED Totals for June 11, 2009 (14 votes) Philadelphia Phillies 6, New York Mets 3 NameTotal PointsPoints AwardedPlayer PerformanceTim Redding32.712.347.0 IP, 6 H, 3 ER, 0 BB, 6 SO.Luis Castillo32.572.333-5, 3 R, 2 2B.Carlos Beltran28.722.051-3, 2B, 3 RBI.David Wright15.971.143-4, SB.Pedro Feliciano12.770.911.0 IP, 0 H, 0 ER, 1 BB, 0 SO.Bobby Parnell4.140.30(L) 1.1 IP, 2 H, 1 ER, 0 BB, 1 SO.Sean Green1.860.130.1 IP, 0 H, 0 ER, 0 BB, 1 SO.

I really liked Jerry last year, and was glad when he was extended. I'm not feeling it anymore, though. My enthusiasm for Omar is gone, too. He's shown that he's at best, an average GM. Maybe not below average, but certainly not above average. If they were both fired tomorrow, I wouldn't feel any regret at all. I have no idea who the next GM would be. And it's hard to even guess without knowing who'd be in charge of hiring him. Sure, we all want Bobby Valentine. (I do too, although I think I'd actually prefer Davey Johnson.) But my guess is it would be some new guy who's never managed the Mets before.

Meanwhile, I completely missed hearing about Clint Hurdle getting fired in Colorado. I just looked it up, and it happened on May 29.

Voting for Thursday night's loss to the Phillies will close some time on Tuesday: Schaefer POTG 6/11/09 - Phillies 6, Mets 3 Look for a similar announcement tomorrow about the three-game series in the Bronx closing on Wednesday.

Takahashi 1 Sheffield 0.5

VOTING FOR THIS GAME IS NOW CLOSED Totals for June 10, 2009 (14 votes) Philadelphia Phillies 5, New York Mets 4 NameTotal PointsPoints AwardedPlayer PerformanceMike Pelfrey37.352.676.0 IP, 6 H, 2 ER, 1 BB, 2 SO.Francisco Rodriguez24.181.732.0 IP, 1 H, 0 ER, 0 BB, 0 SO.Alex Cora14.271.021-5, 2 RBI, SO, SB.Pedro Feliciano12.880.921.0 IP, 0 H, 0 ER, 0 BB, 0 SO.David Wright11.410.823-5, R, SO, 2 SB.Omir Santos10.410.743-5, R.Luis Castillo9.000.642-6, RBI.Ryan Church3.550.250-3, R, 3 SO.Fernando Martinez2.750.201-1.Jeremy Reed1.500.111-1.Carlos Beltran1.300.092-6.Sean Green0.850.061.0 IP, 1 H, 0 ER, 0 BB, 1 SO.Fernando Tatis0.500.040-5.

Former Miracle Mets catcher Duffy Dyer on a ring and a prayer By Anthony Mccarron DAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITER Updated Saturday, June 13th 2009, 4:43 PM Hurley/News Has anybody seen Duffy Dyer�s World Series ring? The former Mets catcher played 14 years in the majors, won a World Series with the Mets in 1969, has been a coach or manager up and down most every level of the pro game and spent two years as a Met scout. But last summer, while he visited the Padres� club in the Dominican Republic, his precious championship ring was stolen from his locker. �People keep telling me to see if it�s on eBay,� Dyer says ruefully. �I�ve looked, but I haven�t seen it.� The players Dyer has worked with over the years would marvel at the ring and ask for the stories about the Miracle Mets and that magical October when the Amazin�s shocked the baseball world. Dyer, who currently resides in Phoenix, counts the Met memories as some of his favorites, from the thrills of the World Series to the day the team first acquired Rusty Staub, and Staub wanted Dyer�s No. 10 jersey. A few hours before a morning press conference, the Mets called Dyer to ask if he would hand over the number and the groggy catcher agreed. �My wife said, �You can�t do that! It�s on your World Series ring,�� Dyer recalls. �She was right. I called the Mets back and said, �Wait a minute!� Rusty took No. 4 instead.� Dyer will be back in Queens this August when the Mets celebrate the 40th anniversary of that Miracle Summer of 1969. And he�s still close to pitcher Jim McAndrew and sees some of his former teammates from that season at Met fantasy camps. �But I haven�t seen Seaver in a long time,� he said. Dyer, primarily a backup to Jerry Grote on those Met teams, recalls tears springing to his eyes the day he was traded to the Pirates. �They were our rivals!� Dyer says. �It broke me up, but I loved my four years in Pittsburgh and it was a good time to be traded, because the Mets had started getting rid of guys � that�s the same year they traded Tug (McGraw).� The 63-year-old Dyer has been in baseball for 41 years and still adores every minute in his current job as a roving catching instructor for the Padres. He even did a stint as a catching instructor for the Chinese national team, teaching the fundamentals that those who wear chest protectors and shin guards must master. �I still have a passion, working with the kids,� says Dyer, who played for the Mets, Pirates, Expos and Tigers. As a Pirate, he caught John Candelaria�s no-hitter in 1976; as an Expo he was dealt to Detroit for current Met manager Jerry Manuel. But he�s most known for his Mets career, which lasted from his one-game debut in 1968 to Oct. 22, 1974, when he was dealt to Pittsburgh for Gene Clines. Overall, Dyer had 30 homers, 173 RBI and a .221 average in 722 major-league games. Dyer knew he wanted a career in coaching after spending 1983 as the Cubs� bullpen coach. Since then, he�s managed in the minors for the Twins, Brewers and Tigers, been a third-base coach for the Brewers and A�s (under Art Howe), a bench coach for the A�s under Howe, managed the independent Bridgeport Bluefish and been both an advance scout and a pro scout for the Mets, when Howe was their manager. When Omar Minaya arrived as GM, the Mets juggled their staff, Dyer says, and he was out. Dyer once wanted to be a major-league manager and interviewed for the Rockies� job that Don Baylor got. Now he says he�d be happy if he finished his career in his current job. �I enjoy what I�m doing so much,� Dyer says. �I�m not out there looking anymore.� Except for that ring. It has No. 10 on it. Have you seen it? http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2009/06/14/amd_dyer-now.jpg

Whatever argument we can make about how the Mets lost on a fluke can be made by Red Sox fans about Game 6.

I can't quite explain why, but when this thread reminded me of another Mets-Yankees clash today, I thought of this poem by Shel Silverstein: ]The Generals Said General Clay to General Gore, "Oh must we fight this silly war? To kill and die is such a bore." "I quite agree," said General Gore. Said General Gore to General Clay, "We could go to the beach today And have some ice cream on the way." "A grand idea," said General Clay. Said General Clay to General Gore, "We�ll build sand castles on the shore." Said General Gore, "We�ll splash and play." "Let�s leave right now," said General Clay. Said General Gore so General Clay, "But what if the sea is closed today? And what if the sand�s been blown away?" "A dreadful thought," said General Clay. Said General Gore to General Clay, "I�ve always feared the ocean�s spray, And we may drown!" "It�s true, we may. It chills my blood," said General Clay. Said General Clay to General Gore, "My bathing suit is slightly tore. We�d better to on with our war." "I quite agree," said General Gore. Then General Clay charged General Gore As bullets flew and cannons roared. And now, alas! there is no more Of General Clay or General Gore.

Come on now, "rapidly losing faith" doesn't mean "hate them every time they lose." I do agree that there's sometimes too much angst here; maybe it's easier for some to root for a team that's not expected to win anything, because the losses are less critical. I don't buy into pure optimism. "They'll win because I want them to win and I have faith that they will." That's only worked out twice in nearly a half century. But Willets is right: If watching this team causes upset and aggravation that you can't quickly put behind you, then you might want to consider a more relaxing hobby.

Aflac Trivia: Four guys who've homered for the Mets against the Yankees and vice versa. Sheffield is probably one. Another guess: Robin Ventura. Who else? Zeile? Olerud?

Another reason why I opted not to be a big celebrity.

Sure. The only problem would be if someone else found the original and got there before you.

How many guys with signability issues make it all the way down to the 72nd pick?

Is Switzer going to start for the Mets? What do we know about him? Has anyone adopted him?

Nice job! But when I think of Yankee KTE's, I think of this classic thread: http://archives.cranepoolforum.net/5000/f1_t5095.shtml

="themetfairy":18ew0lra]The only time tuning into FAN isn't a bad choice is when a Mets game is on.[/quote:18ew0lra] Word! Willets Point Jun 12 2009 06:34 PM

Voting for Wednesday night's loss to the Phillies will close some time over the weekend, or on Monday. If you still have a vote to cast, please try to do so today. Schaefer POTG 6/10/09 - Phillies 5, Mets 4 Also, the Mets have only one player named "Rodriguez" so there's no need to include his first initial when you vote for him. But even though Ramon Martinez is not currently with the club, please be sure to remember to include the first initial when you vote for Fernando Martinez. It's "Rodriguez" and "FMartinez." Thanks.

Zvon awarded 10.8 points, and his vote was prorated as follows: cora 1.39 beltran 1.39 wright 1.39 church 1.39 santana 2.59 feliciano 0.93 rodriguez 0.93 VOTING FOR THIS GAME IS NOW CLOSED Totals for June 9, 2009 (15 votes) New York Mets 6, Philadelphia Phillies 5 NameTotal PointsPoints AwardedPlayer PerformanceJohan Santana30.652.04(W) 7.0 IP, 8 H, 5 ER, 1 BB, 2 SO.Carlos Beltran22.891.531-3, R, HR, 2 RBI, BB, SO.David Wright22.191.482-4, R, 2B, HR, RBI, BB.Ryan Church17.461.161-3, 2 R, HR, RBI, BB, SO.Francisco Rodriguez16.811.12(Sv) 1.0 IP, 1 H, 0 ER, 0 BB, 2 SO.Alex Cora16.371.092-5, R, 2B, RBI.Pedro Feliciano15.731.051.0 IP, 0 H, 0 ER, 0 BB, 0 SO.Fernando Tatis5.300.351-2, 2B, 2 SO.Omir Santos1.200.081-4, R.

Redding 3 Feliciano 1 Castillo 3 Wright 1.5 Beltran 1.5

Niese or Figgy, I guess? Maybe they can reactivate Ron Darling.