Benjamin Grimm

="Benjamin Grimm":2o6scmr5] (Mets wins and losses are combined in these totals; there's no distinction, for example, between 0-1 and 1-0.) [/quote:2o6scmr5] m.e.t.b.o.t. Jun 25 2009 09:43 AM m.e.t.b.o.t. approaches the problem in the following way. m.e.t.b.o.t. assumes that, up to 11-10, all possible scores have been accomplished. furthermore, m.e.t.b.o.t. assumes that there are some number of scoring combinations beyond this configuration which must also been accomplished. m.e.t.b.o.t. will estimate this by continuing the matrix to include all scoring combinations up to 14-13. this yields a total of 105 scoring combinations. me.t.b.o.t. concedes that there is room for error on the high side of this prediction, as m.e.t.b.o.t. has no basis for limiting the matrix to a maximum of 14 runs. m.e.t.b.o.t. is relying solely on the intuition afforded by a collection of springs, gears, pinions, and other mechanical components. 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 0 x 1-0 2-0 3-0 4-0 5-0 6-0 7-0 8-0 9-0 10-0 11-0 12-0 13-0 14-0 1 x 2-1 3-1 4-1 5-1 6-1 7-1 8-1 9-1 10-1 11-1 12-1 13-1 14-1 2 x 3-2 4-2 5-2 6-2 7-2 8-2 9-2 10-2 11-2 12-2 13-2 14-2 3 x 4-3 5-3 6-3 7-3 8-3 9-3 10-3 11-3 12-3 13-3 14-3 4 x 5-4 6-4 7-4 8-4 9-4 10-4 11-4 12-4 13-4 14-4 5 x 6-5 7-5 8-5 9-5 10-5 11-5 12-5 13-5 14-5 6 x 7-6 8-6 9-6 10-6 11-6 12-6 13-6 14-6 7 x 8-7 9-7 10-7 11-7 12-7 13-7 14-7 8 x 9-8 10-8 11-8 12-8 13-8 14-8 9 x 10-9 11-9 12-9 13-9 14-9 10 x 11-10 12-10 13-10 14-10 11 x 12-11 13-11 14-11 12 x 13-12 14-12 13 x 14-13 14 x m.e.t.b.o.t. lacks a sound basis for positing answers to the remaining questions in this challenge, but for purposes of completion will posit the following: How many distinct scores have there been? 105 What is the most common score, and how many times has it occurred? 5-4, 475 Other than tie games, what is the closest score that has not yet been the final score of a Mets game? (30 total runs or fewer. We know that no game has ever ended with a score of 106-105, for example.) 15-14 Of the final scores that have not yet happened, which score has the fewest combined runs? 16 What score was the most lopsided in Mets history? (largest difference between the winning team's runs and the losing team's runs) 14 What's the most lopsided shutout? 14-0 What's the most lopsided score that has occurred more than once? (It's happened three times.) 13-0 Frayed Knot Jun 25 2009 10:00 AM ="MFS62":1ppxo6yl]="soupcan":1ppxo6yl]Look how excited we all are. What a bunch of geeks.[/quote:1ppxo6yl] Hey, when I joined the board, you folks were discussing how you had been called pompous pricks. Geeks is better. Much better. I salute to that. Especially when united in a common purpose. That purpose, of course, is anxiously wanting to find out the answer to those questions. It is the Metly thing to do.[/quote:1ppxo6yl] I'm both a geek and an elitist prick. Benjamin Grimm Jun 25 2009 10:57 AM Okay, here are the answers: How many distinct scores have there been? 140 What is the most common score, and how many times has it occurred? 3-2, 512 times. Other than tie games, what is the closest score that has not yet been the final score of a Mets game? (30 total runs or fewer. We know that no game has ever ended with a score of 106-105, for example.) There have been one-run games all the way from 1-0 to 13-12, so the highest-scoring one-run game that hasn't happened yet is 14-13. Of the final scores that have not yet happened, which score has the fewest combined runs? There's never been a 17-0 game. All possible scores with 16 runs or fewer have occurred. BONUS: The least-common score with a margin of fewer than five runs (excluding ties) is 10-6, which has only happened 30 times. What score was the most lopsided in Mets history? (largest difference between the winning team's runs and the losing team's runs) 26-7. Some of us may remember this one. (I know I do!) It was a loss to the Phillies at Veterans Stadium on June 11, 1985. Tom Gorman started for the Mets, got one guy out, and yielded to Calvin Schiraldi. The Phillies scored 9 runs in the first inning and another 7 in the second. What's the most lopsided shutout? 16-0. A loss to the Braves at Shea on July 2, 1999. Masato Yoshii started for the Mets and Greg Maddux went for Atlanta. What's the most lopsided score that has occurred more than once? (It's happened three times.) 17-1. Atlanta 17, Mets 1, June 17, 1966 Mets 17, Pittsburgh 1, April 17, 1976 Mets 17, Houston 1, August 30, 1999 TOP TEN MOST COMMON SCORES IN METS HISTORY: 3-2 512 4-3 444 2-1 442 4-2 334 5-4 332 3-1 264 5-2 240 4-1 237 6-5 229 5-3 227 John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 25 2009 11:01 AM ]What's the most lopsided shutout? 16-0. A loss to the Braves at Shea on July 2, 1999. Masato Yoshii started for the Mets and Greg Maddux went for Atlanta. I remember this one. Ambler at the old mofo described this as "Hiroshima." Fascinating list by the way and thanks. That one-run games are more common than 2-run games probably says something about how 2-run leads are treated. metirish Jun 25 2009 11:08 AM Fascinating is right , great work and I am sure mathamaticians could have fun with the top ten. Centerfield Jun 25 2009 11:14 AM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket"]]What's the most lopsided shutout? 16-0. A loss to the Braves at Shea on July 2, 1999. Masato Yoshii started for the Mets and Greg Maddux went for Atlanta. I remember this one. Ambler at the old mofo described this as "Hiroshima." Fascinating list by the way and thanks. That one-run games are more common than 2-run games probably says something about how 2-run leads are treated. If memory serves me correctly, that was the pitching debut of Matt Franco. PiggiesTomatoes Jun 25 2009 11:25 AM Great thread and trivia. Thanks LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 25 2009 12:51 PM I don't know how the hell I forgot 26-7. I was 7, and I remember crying in frustration after about an inning and a half. Thanks, BeeG. Edgy DC Jun 25 2009 12:58 PM I liked that game. They hadn't hit in two weeks, and the seven runs was a breakthrough. Benjamin Grimm Jun 25 2009 02:04 PM Okay, so now there have been five hundred and thirteen 3 to 2 games. Frayed Knot Jun 25 2009 02:09 PM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket"]]What's the most lopsided shutout? 16-0. A loss to the Braves at Shea on July 2, 1999. Masato Yoshii started for the Mets and Greg Maddux went for Atlanta. I remember this one. Ambler at the old mofo described this as "Hiroshima." Fascinating list by the way and thanks. That one-run games are more common than 2-run games probably says something about how 2-run leads are treated. IIRC, this one was also declared to be "all Bobby's fault" by several on that forum -- a conclusion I dubbed "stupidity cubed".

Last night, by the way, was the 13th time that a Mets game has ended with a score of 11-0. The Mets are 10 and 3 in 11-0 games! (But only 1-2 when the 11-0 game is on June 24. They had lost 11-0 on June 24, 1972 and June 24, 2008.) Of the 13 games, 8 were 9-inning shutouts: Losses to Reggie Cleveland in 1972 and Rick Rhoden in 1984, and wins by Tom Seaver (1976), Jon Matlack (1976), Sid Fernandez (1986 and 1989), Dwight Gooden (1988) and Tom Glavine (2005). Don't you feel better knowing that?

The Mets may have a new all-time doubles king before the end of the season. David Wright already has 22 this year, and he's now only 20 behind Ed Kranepool: 1.Ed Kranepool2252.Howard Johnson2143.Edgardo Alfonzo2124.David Wright2055.Mike Piazza1936.Darryl Strawberry1877.Cleon Jones1828.Mookie Wilson1709.Carlos Beltran16510.Jos� Reyes162 Already this season he's passed Darryl Strawberry and Mike Piazza.

Nieve 4 Church 1 Evans 1.5 Tatis 1 Schneider 1 Wright 1.5

Attention few remaining Schaefer voters: If Argenis Reyes manages to earn some beer, please vote for "AReyes" If you vote for just "Reyes" your votes will go to Jose.

="Edgy DC (in worst losses thread)":2fu2r4rw]6-4 is the score of the season.[/quote:2fu2r4rw] That comment got me curious, so I decided to plunge into my little database to see what the most common scores in Mets games have been. And that has prompted this little set of trivia questions. I'll post the answers late in the day tomorrow. I'm not going to give hints along the way. Everyone feel free to post your guesses and when I reveal the answers, you can see how you've done. (Mets wins and losses are combined in these totals; there's no distinction, for example, between 0-1 and 1-0.) Here we go... The Mets have played 7,625 regular and postseason games. How many distinct scores have there been? What is the most common score, and how many times has it occurred? Other than tie games, what is the closest score that has not yet been the final score of a Mets game? (30 total runs or fewer. We know that no game has ever ended with a score of 106-105, for example.) Of the final scores that have not yet happened, which score has the fewest combined runs? What score was the most lopsided in Mets history? (largest difference between the winning team's runs and the losing team's runs) What's the most lopsided shutout? What's the most lopsided score that has occurred more than once? (It's happened three times.) Whoever comes closest in each category gets a choice of a virtual shrimp platter or a virtual jar of jelly beans. We'll leave it on the honor system; I'm not promising I'm actually going to tally this stuff. (6-4, by the way, is the 18th most common final score in Mets history, and it's happened 147 times.) Edgy DC Jun 24 2009 02:55 PM How many distinct scores have there been? 1,432 What is the most common score, and how many times has it occurred? 3-1, 245 times Other than tie games, what is the closest score that has not yet been the final score of a Mets game? (30 total runs or fewer. We know that no game has ever ended with a score of 106-105, for example.) 14-13 Of the final scores that have not yet happened, which score has the fewest combined runs? 15 What score was the most lopsided in Mets history? (largest difference between the winning team's runs and the losing team's runs) Eighteen runs. What's the most lopsided shutout? 11-0. What's the most lopsided score that has occurred more than once? (It's happened three times.) 18-1 Gwreck Jun 24 2009 02:55 PM Re: Crazy esoteric trivia Distint Scores 747 distinct scores 3-2 most common, occuring 97 times 17-13 is closest score to never happen Never a 13-4 game Lopsided score is 24-3 Lopsided shutout 17-0 Most frequent lopsided score 19-4 LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 24 2009 03:16 PM How many distinct scores have there been? 192 What is the most common score, and how many times has it occurred? 4-1, 318 times Other than tie games, what is the closest score that has not yet been the final score of a Mets game? (30 total runs or fewer. We know that no game has ever ended with a score of 106-105, for example.) 15-14 Of the final scores that have not yet happened, which score has the fewest combined runs? 14-2 What score was the most lopsided in Mets history? (largest difference between the winning team's runs and the losing team's runs) 22-3 What's the most lopsided shutout? 15-0 What's the most lopsided score that has occurred more than once? (It's happened three times.) 13-1 Whoever comes closest in each category gets a choice of a virtual shrimp platter or a virtual jar of jelly beans. We'll leave it on the honor system; I'm not promising I'm actually going to tally this stuff. John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 24 2009 03:30 PM How many distinct scores have there been? 1,000 What is the most common score, and how many times has it occurred? 4-2 (450 times) Other than tie games, what is the closest score that has not yet been the final score of a Mets game? (30 total runs or fewer. We know that no game has ever ended with a score of 106-105, for example.) 14-13 Of the final scores that have not yet happened, which score has the fewest combined runs? 10-9 What score was the most lopsided in Mets history? (largest difference between the winning team's runs and the losing team's runs) 19 What's the most lopsided shutout? 12-0 What's the most lopsided score that has occurred more than once? (It's happened three times.) 15-2 Frayed Knot Jun 24 2009 05:02 PM How many distinct scores have there been? 785 What is the most common score, and how many times has it occurred? 4-3, 185 times Other than tie games, what is the closest score that has not yet been the final score of a Mets game? (30 total runs or fewer. We know that no game has ever ended with a score of 106-105, for example.) 12-11 Of the final scores that have not yet happened, which score has the fewest combined runs? 11-3 (14) What score was the most lopsided in Mets history? (largest difference between the winning team's runs and the losing team's runs) 26-7 (nineteen runs) What's the most lopsided shutout? 12-0. What's the most lopsided score that has occurred more than once? (It's happened three times.) 12-2 ** ]What is the most common score I've actually wondered before what the most common final score in baseball history is. Not for any particular reason really, just curiosity. HahnSolo Jun 24 2009 05:39 PM How many distinct scores have there been? 90 What is the most common score, and how many times has it occurred? 4-2, 250 times Other than tie games, what is the closest score that has not yet been the final score of a Mets game? (30 total runs or fewer. We know that no game has ever ended with a score of 106-105, for example.) 15-14 Of the final scores that have not yet happened, which score has the fewest combined runs? 17 What score was the most lopsided in Mets history? (largest difference between the winning team's runs and the losing team's runs) 19 What's the most lopsided shutout? 16-0 What's the most lopsided score that has occurred more than once? (It's happened three times.) 16-3 Elster88 Jun 24 2009 06:21 PM Either I don't understand the first question or a few other folks don't. Edgy DC Jun 24 2009 06:36 PM My guess was way too high. Basic math should tell me it was about 20 times too high. soupcan Jun 24 2009 08:43 PM How many distinct scores have there been? 869 What is the most common score, and how many times has it occurred? 5-3, 198 times Other than tie games, what is the closest score that has not yet been the final score of a Mets game? (30 total runs or fewer. We know that no game has ever ended with a score of 106-105, for example.) 13-11 Of the final scores that have not yet happened, which score has the fewest combined runs? 16-4 (20) What score was the most lopsided in Mets history? (largest difference between the winning team's runs and the losing team's runs) 22-1 What's the most lopsided shutout? 13-0. What's the most lopsided score that has occurred more than once? (It's happened three times.) 15-1 John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 24 2009 09:07 PM ="Elster88":pvo9ib6f]Either I don't understand the first question or a few other folks don't.[/quote:pvo9ib6f] I don't care. Elster88 Jun 24 2009 10:10 PM ... John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 25 2009 05:04 AM Sorry. Making fun of my own wild guesses. Swan Swan H Jun 25 2009 05:33 AM How many distinct scores have there been? 162 What is the most common score, and how many times has it occurred? 5-2, 108 times Other than tie games, what is the closest score that has not yet been the final score of a Mets game? (30 total runs or fewer. We know that no game has ever ended with a score of 106-105, for example.) 14-13 Of the final scores that have not yet happened, which score has the fewest combined runs? 15-9, 24 combined What score was the most lopsided in Mets history? (largest difference between the winning team's runs and the losing team's runs) 19-1 What's the most lopsided shutout? 12-0 What's the most lopsided score that has occurred more than once? (It's happened three times.) 18-1 Benjamin Grimm Jun 25 2009 07:18 AM Last night, by the way, was the 13th time that a Mets game has ended with a score of 11-0. The Mets are 10 and 3 in 11-0 games! (But only 1-2 when the 11-0 game is on June 24. They had lost 11-0 on June 24, 1972 and June 24, 2008.) Of the 13 games, 8 were 9-inning shutouts: Losses to Reggie Cleveland in 1972 and Rick Rhoden in 1984, and wins by Tom Seaver (1976), Jon Matlack (1976), Sid Fernandez (1986 and 1989), Dwight Gooden (1988) and Tom Glavine (2005). Don't you feel better knowing that? soupcan Jun 25 2009 07:21 AM I'm very curious to know the most common score. Can't wait for the big reveal! metsmarathon Jun 25 2009 07:56 AM How many distinct scores have there been? 196 What is the most common score, and how many times has it occurred? 4-3, 257 times Other than tie games, what is the closest score that has not yet been the final score of a Mets game? (30 total runs or fewer. We know that no game has ever ended with a score of 106-105, for example.) 11-10 Of the final scores that have not yet happened, which score has the fewest combined runs? 20 What score was the most lopsided in Mets history? (largest difference between the winning team's runs and the losing team's runs) 19 What's the most lopsided shutout? 14-0 What's the most lopsided score that has occurred more than once? (It's happened three times.) 17-2 Centerfield Jun 25 2009 08:04 AM The fact that he has this information should really confirm that the name "Ultimate Mets Database" is not hyperbole. MFS62 Jun 25 2009 08:11 AM ="soupcan":1w1w1jzh] Can't wait for the big reveal![/quote:1w1w1jzh] I agree. If he waits too long and more games are played, the answers to some of the questions could change. Later metirish Jun 25 2009 08:12 AM This is brilliant , not going to bother with any guesses , all the absurd one are taken anyway. Just waiting for the answers now. HahnSolo Jun 25 2009 08:23 AM ="Edgy DC":28o8bhhh]My guess was way too high. Basic math should tell me it was about 20 times too high.[/quote:28o8bhhh] And I suspect now that my guess was low. soupcan Jun 25 2009 08:54 AM Look how excited we all are. What a bunch of geeks. MFS62 Jun 25 2009 09:09 AM ="soupcan":2dbn7m5s]Look how excited we all are. What a bunch of geeks.[/quote:2dbn7m5s] Hey, when I joined the board, you folks were discussing how you had been called pompous pricks. Geeks is better. Much better. I salute to that. Especially when united in a common purpose. That purpose, of course, is anxiously wanting to find out the answer to those questions. It is the Metly thing to do. Later m.e.t.b.o.t. Jun 25 2009 09:18 AM m.e.t.b.o.t. is trying to figure out the correct answer to the questions posed. me.t.b.o.t. believes the that cranepoolforum poster hahnsolo has the most accurate answer so far, moreso than cranepoolforum poster and m.e.t.b.o.t. creator metsmarathon. Benjamin Grimm Jun 25 2009 09:22 AM Re: Crazy esoteric trivia ="Benjamin Grimm":2o6scmr5] (Mets wins and losses are combined in these totals; there's no distinction, for example, between 0-1 and 1-0.) [/quote:2o6scmr5] m.e.t.b.o.t. Jun 25 2009 09:43 AM m.e.t.b.o.t. approaches the problem in the following way. m.e.t.b.o.t. assumes that, up to 11-10, all possible scores have been accomplished. furthermore, m.e.t.b.o.t. assumes that there are some number of scoring combinations beyond this configuration which must also been accomplished. m.e.t.b.o.t. will estimate this by continuing the matrix to include all scoring combinations up to 14-13. this yields a total of 105 scoring combinations. me.t.b.o.t. concedes that there is room for error on the high side of this prediction, as m.e.t.b.o.t. has no basis for limiting the matrix to a maximum of 14 runs. m.e.t.b.o.t. is relying solely on the intuition afforded by a collection of springs, gears, pinions, and other mechanical components. 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 0 x 1-0 2-0 3-0 4-0 5-0 6-0 7-0 8-0 9-0 10-0 11-0 12-0 13-0 14-0 1 x 2-1 3-1 4-1 5-1 6-1 7-1 8-1 9-1 10-1 11-1 12-1 13-1 14-1 2 x 3-2 4-2 5-2 6-2 7-2 8-2 9-2 10-2 11-2 12-2 13-2 14-2 3 x 4-3 5-3 6-3 7-3 8-3 9-3 10-3 11-3 12-3 13-3 14-3 4 x 5-4 6-4 7-4 8-4 9-4 10-4 11-4 12-4 13-4 14-4 5 x 6-5 7-5 8-5 9-5 10-5 11-5 12-5 13-5 14-5 6 x 7-6 8-6 9-6 10-6 11-6 12-6 13-6 14-6 7 x 8-7 9-7 10-7 11-7 12-7 13-7 14-7 8 x 9-8 10-8 11-8 12-8 13-8 14-8 9 x 10-9 11-9 12-9 13-9 14-9 10 x 11-10 12-10 13-10 14-10 11 x 12-11 13-11 14-11 12 x 13-12 14-12 13 x 14-13 14 x m.e.t.b.o.t. lacks a sound basis for positing answers to the remaining questions in this challenge, but for purposes of completion will posit the following: How many distinct scores have there been? 105 What is the most common score, and how many times has it occurred? 5-4, 475 Other than tie games, what is the closest score that has not yet been the final score of a Mets game? (30 total runs or fewer. We know that no game has ever ended with a score of 106-105, for example.) 15-14 Of the final scores that have not yet happened, which score has the fewest combined runs? 16 What score was the most lopsided in Mets history? (largest difference between the winning team's runs and the losing team's runs) 14 What's the most lopsided shutout? 14-0 What's the most lopsided score that has occurred more than once? (It's happened three times.) 13-0 Frayed Knot Jun 25 2009 10:00 AM ="MFS62":1ppxo6yl]="soupcan":1ppxo6yl]Look how excited we all are. What a bunch of geeks.[/quote:1ppxo6yl] Hey, when I joined the board, you folks were discussing how you had been called pompous pricks. Geeks is better. Much better. I salute to that. Especially when united in a common purpose. That purpose, of course, is anxiously wanting to find out the answer to those questions. It is the Metly thing to do.[/quote:1ppxo6yl] I'm both a geek and an elitist prick. Benjamin Grimm Jun 25 2009 10:57 AM Okay, here are the answers: How many distinct scores have there been? 140 What is the most common score, and how many times has it occurred? 3-2, 512 times. Other than tie games, what is the closest score that has not yet been the final score of a Mets game? (30 total runs or fewer. We know that no game has ever ended with a score of 106-105, for example.) There have been one-run games all the way from 1-0 to 13-12, so the highest-scoring one-run game that hasn't happened yet is 14-13. Of the final scores that have not yet happened, which score has the fewest combined runs? There's never been a 17-0 game. All possible scores with 16 runs or fewer have occurred. BONUS: The least-common score with a margin of fewer than five runs (excluding ties) is 10-6, which has only happened 30 times. What score was the most lopsided in Mets history? (largest difference between the winning team's runs and the losing team's runs) 26-7. Some of us may remember this one. (I know I do!) It was a loss to the Phillies at Veterans Stadium on June 11, 1985. Tom Gorman started for the Mets, got one guy out, and yielded to Calvin Schiraldi. The Phillies scored 9 runs in the first inning and another 7 in the second. What's the most lopsided shutout? 16-0. A loss to the Braves at Shea on July 2, 1999. Masato Yoshii started for the Mets and Greg Maddux went for Atlanta. What's the most lopsided score that has occurred more than once? (It's happened three times.) 17-1. Atlanta 17, Mets 1, June 17, 1966 Mets 17, Pittsburgh 1, April 17, 1976 Mets 17, Houston 1, August 30, 1999 TOP TEN MOST COMMON SCORES IN METS HISTORY: 3-2 512 4-3 444 2-1 442 4-2 334 5-4 332 3-1 264 5-2 240 4-1 237 6-5 229 5-3 227 John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 25 2009 11:01 AM ]What's the most lopsided shutout? 16-0. A loss to the Braves at Shea on July 2, 1999. Masato Yoshii started for the Mets and Greg Maddux went for Atlanta. I remember this one. Ambler at the old mofo described this as "Hiroshima." Fascinating list by the way and thanks. That one-run games are more common than 2-run games probably says something about how 2-run leads are treated. metirish Jun 25 2009 11:08 AM Fascinating is right , great work and I am sure mathamaticians could have fun with the top ten. Centerfield Jun 25 2009 11:14 AM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket"]]What's the most lopsided shutout? 16-0. A loss to the Braves at Shea on July 2, 1999. Masato Yoshii started for the Mets and Greg Maddux went for Atlanta. I remember this one. Ambler at the old mofo described this as "Hiroshima." Fascinating list by the way and thanks. That one-run games are more common than 2-run games probably says something about how 2-run leads are treated. If memory serves me correctly, that was the pitching debut of Matt Franco. PiggiesTomatoes Jun 25 2009 11:25 AM Great thread and trivia. Thanks LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 25 2009 12:51 PM I don't know how the hell I forgot 26-7. I was 7, and I remember crying in frustration after about an inning and a half. Thanks, BeeG. Edgy DC Jun 25 2009 12:58 PM I liked that game. They hadn't hit in two weeks, and the seven runs was a breakthrough. Benjamin Grimm Jun 25 2009 02:04 PM Okay, so now there have been five hundred and thirteen 3 to 2 games. Frayed Knot Jun 25 2009 02:09 PM ="John Cougar Lunchbucket"]]What's the most lopsided shutout? 16-0. A loss to the Braves at Shea on July 2, 1999. Masato Yoshii started for the Mets and Greg Maddux went for Atlanta. I remember this one. Ambler at the old mofo described this as "Hiroshima." Fascinating list by the way and thanks. That one-run games are more common than 2-run games probably says something about how 2-run leads are treated. IIRC, this one was also declared to be "all Bobby's fault" by several on that forum -- a conclusion I dubbed "stupidity cubed".

There once was a catcher named Howe With a familiar arch to his brow He's no son of Art But he can sure play the part And he'll do so in Kingsport for now

Yes, I would assume so. There were nine times that he worked on back-to-back days. Not that he worked nine consecutive days.

So that's the answer. Find somebody in New York who's willing to dedicate a spare TV to a SlingBox. If that person also has SNY, you'd be able to watch every Mets game as if you were in New York, without even needing Extra Innings.

That's kinda how I thought it would work. Interesting.

="soupcan":3cx58r9v]="Benjamin Grimm":3cx58r9v]As I mentioned above, you can get a Slingbox and install it at a friend's or relative's house in the New York area.[/quote:3cx58r9v] Slingbox is how I watch the gay dames during the week when I'm at work. My bro-in-law has one and I just log into it from the office as I have no TV here. I've also used his slingbox via my laptop from Caifornia to watch the Metskis.[/quote:3cx58r9v] Does it use the same tuner that the TV is tuned into? In other words, if you're in California and you tell your laptop that you want to watch the Mets, does your brother-in-law's TV change channels? If so, I can see that getting annoying if he or his family is watching something else and the channel suddenly changes. Fman99 Jun 24 2009 11:31 AM ="soupcan":2yrm7wxc]="Benjamin Grimm":2yrm7wxc]As I mentioned above, you can get a Slingbox and install it at a friend's or relative's house in the New York area.[/quote:2yrm7wxc] Slingbox is how I watch the gay dames during the week when I'm at work. My bro-in-law has one and I just log into it from the office as I have no TV here. I've also used his slingbox via my laptop from Caifornia to watch the Metskis.[/quote:2yrm7wxc] I am considering getting a slingbox for this kind of thing. Woot is selling them today in fact for $100 (refurbs). soupcan Jun 24 2009 11:37 AM ="Benjamin Grimm":15awrxrn]Does it use the same tuner that the TV is tuned into? In other words, if you're in California and you tell your laptop that you want to watch the Mets, does your brother-in-law's TV change channels? If so, I can see that getting annoying if he or his family is watching something else and the channel suddenly changes.[/quote:15awrxrn] He has one TV dedicated to the slingbox that nobody watches, so its not a problem. Benjamin Grimm Jun 24 2009 12:32 PM That's kinda how I thought it would work. Interesting. soupcan Jun 24 2009 12:44 PM But yeah, it would use the same tuner so if I would change the channel from my PC it would change on the physical TV in his house and if someone in the house used the cable remote to change the channel back, it would change back on my end too. Benjamin Grimm Jun 24 2009 12:53 PM So that's the answer. Find somebody in New York who's willing to dedicate a spare TV to a SlingBox. If that person also has SNY, you'd be able to watch every Mets game as if you were in New York, without even needing Extra Innings. Gwreck Jun 24 2009 12:59 PM Yep. The Slingbox was a great idea. I believe the way the Slingbox changes channels is that it has a small infared-emitting device which you just stick in front of the cable box and can be used to change channels/etc. I guess it would also work to control a DVR if you taped the game and then wanted to watch it later. Swan Swan H Jun 24 2009 01:15 PM Yup. You get full control of the remote that works with the box, so if the box has a DVR you can use it as well. It's a GUI image of the remote, which is a bit weird, but works great. We got one last year when our son headed up to Boston for an internship, and this has allowed him to watch the Rangers, Giants and Mets, and record games when he had to work at night. Last time we went up to visit he had one of the Music Choice channels playing through the Slingbox on his laptop. He said it was better than the radio, since there were no commercials. bmfc1 Jun 28 2009 12:05 PM Gwreck, The rules are stupid. Las Vegas baseball fans are blackout out of six different teams! I have both EI and mlb.tv. If I could only pick one, I'd pick mlb.tv because you get the Mets games on WPIX. EI only shows the cable games. This includes the Saturday 1:10 starts which are n/a on EI. (This is one of the two dumbest aspects of the blackout rules--the other is that FOX games that are not shown in your market are still not shown on EI or mlb.tv).

Voting for Monday night's win over the Cardinals in Queens will close some time on Thursday: Schaefer POTG 6/22/09 - Mets 6, Cardinals 4 This game is very lightly voted, especially for a Mets win. So far we've only heard from themetfairy, LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr, Edgy DC, Benjamin Grimm, Frayed Knot, and Fman99. If you're still participating in this exercise and you haven't yet voted for Monday's game, please try to do so today.

VOTING FOR THIS GAME IS NOW CLOSED Totals for June 21, 2009 (9 votes) Tampa Bay Rays 10, New York Mets 6 NameTotal PointsPoints AwardedPlayer PerformanceBrian Schneider21.022.341-4, R, HR, 3 RBI, BB.David Wright11.641.293-5, 2 R, 2B.Brian Stokes6.590.731.0 IP, 1 H, 0 ER, 0 BB, 0 SO.Gary Sheffield6.130.681-3, R, 2B, RBI, SO.Carlos Beltran6.000.672-4, SO.Mike Pelfrey5.310.595.0 IP, 8 H, 4 ER, 0 BB, 4 SO.Jon Switzer4.160.461.0 IP, 0 H, 0 ER, 0 BB, 2 SO.Pedro Feliciano2.660.301.0 IP, 0 H, 0 ER, 1 BB, 2 SO.Ken Takahashi2.570.291.0 IP, 1 H, 0 ER, 1 BB, 2 SO.Daniel Murphy1.800.201-5, R, 2B.Ryan Church0.250.030-3, R, SO.Alex Cora0.060.011-4, SO.

VOTING FOR THIS GAME IS NOW CLOSED Totals for June 20, 2009 (11 votes) Tampa Bay Rays 3, New York Mets 1 NameTotal PointsPoints AwardedPlayer PerformanceJohan Santana46.174.20(L) 7.1 IP, 3 H, 2 ER, 3 BB, 3 SO.Omir Santos13.261.211-3, 2B, RBI.Ryan Church9.200.841-3, R, 2B.Pedro Feliciano8.680.790.2 IP, 0 H, 0 ER, 0 BB, 0 SO.Alex Cora1.800.161-4, 2B.Daniel Murphy0.580.050-3.

Zvon awarded 10.2 points, and his votes were prorated as follows: cora 0.1 murphy 0.1 beltran 0.1 wright 0.59 sheffield 0.1 church 1.18 schneider 1.96 nieve 3.14 feliciano 0.78 green 0.98 rodriguez 0.98 VOTING FOR THIS GAME IS NOW CLOSED Totals for June 19, 2009 (12 votes) New York Mets 5, Tampa Bay Rays 3 NameTotal PointsPoints AwardedPlayer PerformanceFernando Nieve41.473.46(W) 6.0 IP, 3 H, 1 ER, 3 BB, 4 SO.Brian Schneider25.452.121-4, R, HR, 3 RBI, BB.Ryan Church14.701.232-3, R, RBI, SO, 2 SB.Francisco Rodriguez9.910.83(Sv) 1.0 IP, 0 H, 0 ER, 0 BB, 0 SO.Sean Green8.880.741.0 IP, 1 H, 0 ER, 1 BB, 3 SO.Daniel Murphy7.350.613-4.David Wright4.940.411-4, 2B, RBI.Pedro Feliciano4.750.400.1 IP, 0 H, 0 ER, 0 BB, 0 SO.Gary Sheffield1.760.151-3, R, SO.Carlos Beltran0.450.041-4, R, SB.Alex Cora0.350.031-4, R.

Hernandez 4.5 Dessens 2

There are three ways I can think of to get the games that air on WPIX. With Extra Innings you can usually watch the opposing team's feed, unless it's Saturday afternoon or neither team is carrying the game on cable. (Although Extra Innings does carry some over-the-air broadcasts, but just not for the Mets.) As I mentioned above, you can get a Slingbox and install it at a friend's or relative's house in the New York area. Thirdly, if you're close to New York but just outside the area, you might be able to pick up the WPIX signal with a strong HDTV antenna. I checked into it, and I'm kind of on the fringe area, I may or may not be able to pick up PIX. I may try it some day, but not any time soon.

That's their scorecard position. (Pitcher = 1, catcher = 2, etc.)

VOTING FOR THIS GAME IS NOW CLOSED Totals for June 18, 2009 (13 votes) Baltimore Orioles 5, New York Mets 4 NameTotal PointsPoints AwardedPlayer PerformanceLivan Hernandez50.823.917.0 IP, 8 H, 2 ER, 1 BB, 4 SO.Carlos Beltran20.141.552-4, R, RBI, SO, 2 SB.Alex Cora17.941.382-3, 2 R, SO, SB.Daniel Murphy9.460.731-5, R, 2B, RBI.Luis Castillo8.450.652-4.Ryan Church6.700.521-4, RBI.Sean Green3.060.240.2 IP, 1 H, 0 ER, 0 BB, 1 SO.David Wright3.050.230-4, RBI.Pedro Feliciano0.100.010.1 IP, 1 H, 1 ER, 0 BB, 0 SO.

Frayed Knot awarded 10.2 points, and his votes were prorated as follows: redding 1.47 parnell 0.49 stokes 0.49 murphy 2.25 sheffield 2.16 cora 0.98 church 0.98 schneider 0.78 fmartinez 0.39 VOTING FOR THIS GAME IS NOW CLOSED Totals for June 17, 2009 (12 votes) Baltimore Orioles 6, New York Mets 4 NameTotal PointsPoints AwardedPlayer PerformanceDaniel Murphy25.852.153-4, R, RBI.Gary Sheffield23.391.952-4, 2 R, HR, RBI, BB.Bobby Parnell13.351.111.0 IP, 0 H, 0 ER, 0 BB, 1 SO.Brian Stokes12.191.021.1 IP, 1 H, 0 ER, 0 BB, 0 SO.Alex Cora8.980.751-4, RBI, SO.Ryan Church8.980.752-4, R, 2B.Brian Schneider5.580.461-3, RBI.Tim Redding3.970.335.1 IP, 7 H, 4 ER, 4 BB, 2 SO.Fernando Tatis1.600.131-2, 2B.Fernando Martinez1.300.111-3, 2B.

Still a couple of hours before the Baltimore games close, but meanwhile, the entire three-game weekend series against Tampa Bay will close some time tomorrow. Sunday's game is especially light on votes. We've only heard from Hawkeye57, LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr, themetfairy, Edgy DC, Gwreck, Rockin' Doc, and Benjamin Grimm. Schaefer POTG 6/19/09 - Mets 5, Rays 3Schaefer POTG 6/20/09 - Rays 3, Mets 1Schaefer POTG 6/21/09 - Rays 10, Mets 6

I bet there's a fascinating story about how he switched from "Bob" to "Bobby."

Castillo 2.5 Santos 2.5 Murphy 1 Cora 1 Redding 2.5 Rodriguez 0.5

Schneider 3 Wright 2 Beltran 1 Stokes 1