Carpenters Scorebooks presents: Find Us a Manager (Group I)

[Edgy MD]

You're Sandy Alderson. There's no denying it. It's the name on your door and on your desk and you pull out your wallet and check your ID. License, credit cards, USAA insurance card, it all checks out.

And if all checks out, you may as well get to work. You're making the rounds of some of your re-hires. You're of course re-signing your broadcast booth, at an honorable rate. You call Keith to square things and he's chatty.

"Keith," you say, "I've been looking at old managers."

"HARRY THE HAT!" he shouts. My first manager in pro-ball. He hated ballplayers with cars. Can you imagine that?! He resented that a few of the guys had cars!"

"Keith," you say, "I love your feel for the history of the game. I need you to help me find 17 living managers. You know, like Sandberg and Bob Boone and guys like that."

"Boone's alive?" he asks, "God you wouldn't have guessed it if you've seen him during the last few years. Lumbago, I think."

"Don't change, Keith. You stand by, I'll Fed Ex you a bunch of names of guys we're already considering, and you send me back guys you know."

"FedEx? I don't know. DSL is a lot faster and more reliable out here."

"Yeah whatever. Get it to me by tomorrow or never."

That's the way you've gotta deal with Keith. When he's excited about something, he's a dog with a new toy, and he's all over it. When he's not, he grows bored. You've gotta force quick turnaround out of the guy.

And wouldn't you know it. The next day, the DSL guy comes to the office door. You NEVER get DSL deliveries. But Keith's right. Fast and reliable.

You pour over the names before you. At the bottom it says, "Livin' the Amazin' Life, San'. — Thanks, Keith.

Good for him. Buty you've got to find four of these guys to call in for an interview before the day is out.

	Mgr	Age	Team(s)	Yrs	From	To	W	L	W-L%	Ties	G > .500	G	W Post	L Post	W-L% Post	Best Fin	Wrst Fin	Av Rk	Plyof App	WS won	Penn Won	ASG	Mets Connection
[fimg=90]https://d3k2oh6evki4b7.cloudfront.net/req/201709071/images/headshots/7/7809573b_manager.jpg[/fimg]	Lloyd McClendon	59	PIT, SEA	7	2001	2015	499	607	.451	0	-108	1106	0	0		3	6	4.5	0	0	0	0	Originally signed by the Mets in 1980 and played in their system until being traded to Cincinnati as part of the Tom Seaver deal in December 1982.
[fimg=90]https://d3k2oh6evki4b7.cloudfront.net/req/201709071/images/headshots/1/126fd970_manager.jpg[/fimg]	Ron Roenicke	61	MIL	5	2011	2015	342	331	.508	0	11	673	5	6	.455	1	5	2.8	1	0	0	0
[fimg=90]https://d3k2oh6evki4b7.cloudfront.net/req/201709071/images/headshots/5/57c6c998_manager.jpg[/fimg]	Tony DeFrancesco	54	HOU	1	2012	2012	16	25	.390	0	-9	41	0	0		6	6	6.0	0	0	0	0	Originally from Suffern, NY. Went to Seton Hall University.
[fimg=90]https://d3k2oh6evki4b7.cloudfront.net/req/201709071/images/headshots/f/f26bbf77_davis.jpg[/fimg]	Jim Tracy	62	LAD, PIT, COL	11	2001	2012	856	880	.493	0	-24	1736	2	6	.250	1	6	3.5	2	0	0	0
[fimg=90]https://d3k2oh6evki4b7.cloudfront.net/req/201709071/images/headshots/4/407dddec_davis.jpg[/fimg]	Lou Piniella	74	NYY, CIN, SEA, TBR, CHC	23	1986	2010	1835	1713	.517	0	122	3548	23	27	.460	1	5	2.8	7	1	1	1
[fimg=90]https://d3k2oh6evki4b7.cloudfront.net/req/201709071/images/headshots/0/09351408_br.jpg[/fimg]	Joe Torre	77	NYM, ATL, STL, NYY, LAD	29	1977	2010	2326	1997	.538	6	329	4329	84	58	.592	1	6	2.4	15	4	6	6	Mets player, 1975-1977; manager, 1977-1981; from Brooklyn, NY.
[fimg=90]https://d3k2oh6evki4b7.cloudfront.net/req/201709071/images/headshots/3/3aad9a46_manager.jpg[/fimg]	Bob Schaefer	73	KCR	2	1991	2005	6	12	.333	0	-6	18	0	0		5	6	5.1	0	0	0	0
[fimg=90]https://d3k2oh6evki4b7.cloudfront.net/req/201709071/images/headshots/a/a70abed8_davis.jpg[/fimg]	Art Howe	71	HOU, OAK, NYM	14	1989	2004	1129	1137	.498	0	-8	2266	6	9	.400	1	6	3.4	3	0	0	0	Mets manager, 2003-2004.
[fimg=90]https://d3k2oh6evki4b7.cloudfront.net/req/201709071/images/headshots/9/905d7dcb_davis.jpg[/fimg]	Joel Skinner	57	CLE	1	2002	2002	35	41	.461	0	-6	76	0	0		3	3	3.0	0	0	0	0
[fimg=90]https://d3k2oh6evki4b7.cloudfront.net/req/201709071/images/headshots/9/9dc833a6_davis.jpg[/fimg]	Tom Kelly	67	MIN	16	1986	2001	1140	1244	.478	1	-104	2385	16	8	.667	1	7	3.8	2	2	2	2
[fimg=90]https://d3k2oh6evki4b7.cloudfront.net/req/201709071/images/headshots/0/0c6cd3b5_davis.jpg[/fimg]	Cookie Rojas	79	CAL, FLA	2	1988	1996	76	79	.490	0	-3	155	0	0		3	4	4.0	0	0	0	0	Mets third base and infield coach, 1997-2000.
[fimg=90]https://d3k2oh6evki4b7.cloudfront.net/req/201709071/images/headshots/7/76995c16_davis.jpg[/fimg]	Butch Hobson	66	BOS	3	1992	1994	207	232	.472	0	-25	439	0	0		4	7	5.5	0	0	0	0
[fimg=90]https://d3k2oh6evki4b7.cloudfront.net/req/201709071/images/headshots/9/94bab467_davis.jpg[/fimg]	Gene Tenace	74	TOR	1	1991	1991	19	14	.576	0	5	33	0	0		1	1	1.0	0	0	0	0
[fimg=90]https://d3k2oh6evki4b7.cloudfront.net/req/201709071/images/headshots/1/1dd15231_davis.jpg[/fimg]	Red Schoendienst	95	STL	14	1965	1990	1041	955	.522	3	86	1999	7	7	.500	1	7	3.5	2	1	2	2	Played for the New York Giants.
[fimg=90]https://d3k2oh6evki4b7.cloudfront.net/req/201709071/images/headshots/2/25f8ec91_davis.jpg[/fimg]	Jeff Newman	69	OAK	1	1986	1986	2	8	.200	0	-6	10	0	0		3	3	3.0	0	0	0	0
[fimg=90]https://d3k2oh6evki4b7.cloudfront.net/req/201709071/images/headshots/a/afa9d4f2_davis.jpg[/fimg]	Bobby Wine	79	ATL	1	1985	1985	16	25	.390	0	-9	41	0	0		5	5	5.0	0	0	0	0	Mets bench coach, 1993-96.
[fimg=90]https://d3k2oh6evki4b7.cloudfront.net/req/201709071/images/headshots/0/0dbe8508_manager.jpg[/fimg]	Ted Turner	79	ATL	1	1977	1977	0	1	.000	0	-1	1	0	0		6	6	6.0	0	0	0	0
[fimg=90]https://d3k2oh6evki4b7.cloudfront.net/req/201709071/images/headshots/9/958f12fd_davis.jpg[/fimg]	Eddie Kasko	86	BOS	4	1970	1973	345	295	.539	0	50	640	0	0		2	3	2.5	0	0	0	0

[Benjamin Grimm]

I had no idea that Red Schoendienst was still among us.

And Gene Tenace managed the Blue Jays?

[Edgy MD]

He sort of got the hold for the 1991 Toronto Blue Jays. Mid-season, manager Cito Gaston was sidelined with a hernatied disc. Tenace came on mid-season and managed 33 games, keeping the ship sailing to the tune of a 19-14 record, before turning the team back over to Cito, who led them homeward toward their first-place finish.

[Frayed Knot]

I think they should hire Bobby Wine as their manager and Cookie Rojas as the bench coach, because who wouldn't want to live through the days of Wine and Rojas?

[MFS62]

Frayed Knot wrote: I think they should hire Bobby Wine as their manager and Cookie Rojas as the bench coach, because who wouldn't want to live through the days of Wine and Rojas?

You owe me a new keyboard. Or at least another cup of coffee.
But you'll have the same reaction when you notice my Ted Turner vote.

Later

[Frayed Knot]

It was hardly an original joke so at best I'll chip in a small portion towards your keyboard replacement fund.
The movie came out in 1962 just a year prior to Wine & Rojas becoming teammates with the Phillies in 1963 where they were the usual SS / 2B combo for the better part of five seasons together, so
that reference has been made a bunch of times before. McCarver used that line often.

[MFS62]

I know. The flashback got me.
Totally unexpected.
Later

[Lefty Specialist]

Ted Turner. And in his spare time, he could whip SNY into an efficient news-gathering organization.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

I don't believe Keith would ever get you an entire list of 17. Maybe five, scribbled on a napkin somewhere. He CERTAINLY wouldn't get around to sending it over.

Schoendienst.

[Guest d'Kong76]

Torre? SteveJ, we need a word over here...

[Guest d'Kong76]

Schoendienst for me, he would make a good song parody subject.

[Edgy MD]

We need to break open this field.

Red Schoendienst: 3
Lloyd McClendon: 2
Ron Roenicke: 2
Tony DeFrancesco: 2
Jim Tracy: 2
Cookie Rojas: 2
Ted Turner: 2
Joe Torre: 1
Joel Skinner: 1
Tom Kelly: 1