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[Frayed Knot]

4 PM Monday is the deadline and it's probably tough to think of a year when a team clearly out of it had so many potential, and potentially useful to someone, FAs-to-be.

Any or all out of Granderson, Bruce, Reed, Cabrera, and Walker could have already played their last NYM game.

Also, because he's already been DFA'd so as to make room for Ramos, Edgin becomes a package sweetener in a deal as well.

I already suspected Reyes was safer than the other potential FAs and the injury from Sunday's game (even though X-rays were negative) almost shirley makes that even more the case.

Several of the above could survive the purge only to be dealt in August as their salaries make them probable to go unclaimed on waivers.

And, of course, one of the known things about trading deadline time is that some shit will happen that no one even considered.

[Guest cooby]

So how embarrassing would it be if nobody wants any of us?

[ashie62]

Sometimes you don't have to do anything.

[Frayed Knot]

Ashie62 wrote: Sometimes you don't have to do anything.

Yeah but this isn't one of those times.
Well, I suppose they don't HAVE to do anything but, seeing as how they're going to lose most or all of these guys at the end of the season anyway, it's certainly not an ideal time to sit and do nothing.

But it does take two to tango and your mileage may vary and yadda yadda blah blah.

[Guest d'Kong76]

What would be embarrassing is if the Mets are in 'don't have to do
anything' mode. Too many expiring contracts to not get something
for them. The waiting game is what that will be if anything. Sandy's
phone is probably pretty silent tonight. No trading GM's are losing
sleep on their Sunday night waiting for the prices to go down in the
morning when they get back to work.

[Chad ochoseis]

I remember last year one of the stathead groups - I think it was fivethirtyeight.com - did a study and concluded that standing pat at midseason was never the right move. Don't know if I agree, and I don't remember them showing their work. But this would definitely be a great opportunity for the Mets to restock their farm system, which will be almost completely depleted once we promote Rosario and Smith.

[Ceetar]

technically the Mets already did two things.


I'm just in it for the fake accounts though.

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[Ceetar]

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fuck off with your football analogies Joel.

[TransMonk]

Three prospects...

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[Guest 41Forever]

Reed would be our biggest chip, right?

[Guest 41Forever]

@alexspeier
It's Jamie Callahan, Gerson Bautista, and Stephen Nogosek to the Mets in the agreement for Addison Reed.

[Lefty Specialist]

Good? Bad? Indifferent?

[Edgy MD]

Bautista is a 22-year-old Dominican who has been clocked at 100, but throws it all over the place.

Hey, wait ... Omar isn't back in charge, is he?

[Lefty Specialist]

Sox fans seem relatively happy on SoSH, so we probably got screwed.....

[Frayed Knot]

Nogosek -- RHP, strictly relief to date. 6th round pick in 2016 out of U-Oregon (so he would have pitched with our 2017 #1 guy) good numbers this year in Low-A: 2.55 ERA, 0.99 WHIP; 11.5 K/9; 2.8 BB/9

Callahan - RHP, a starter initially but a reliever of late. 2nd round pick 2012 out of HS in SC.
Split 2017 between AA & AAA, combined 32 games/42 innings; 3.21 ERA; 1.17 WHIP; 12.0 K/9, 2.8 BB/9



So it's two months of a good reliever in exchange for 3 potential future relievers: Callahan maybe could help in 2018, the others have higher ceilings probably but are further away

[Edgy MD]

Kinda reminds me of the haul Phillips (or Duquette?) got for Armando Benitez. Three pitchers, all projected toward the pen, one with the makeup, one with the arm, one with a touch of both. None, at this point, looking like the full package.

Remembering we gave up Miller Diaz and Matt Koch to the Diamondbacks, I guess it's a pretty good haul to have flipped those two guys into these three guys plus the 142 innings of 2.09-ERA relief that Reed brought.

[bmfc1]

But does Addison have an opinion on Dennis Eckersley?

[Chad ochoseis]

From SoSH:

Here are summaries on all three from Soxprosects. Callahan - Summation: Potential seventh-inning reliever profile. Has made significant progress since his move to the bullpen in 2015. Potential for plus-to-better fastball and above-average splitter with a cutter that can keep hitters honest. Upside depends on consistency with fastball command and continued development of secondary pitches. Nogosek Summation: Projects as a middle reliever. Potential for two above-average pitches in fastball and slider, both of which show bat-missing ability. Effort in delivery and lack of third pitch limit him to bullpen role, but could move quickly if the organization wanted to push him aggressively. Bautista Summation: Intriguing arm strength, but more of a lottery ticket at this point. Bullpen profile, but needs to physically mature as well as simplify and cleanup delivery. Has raw stuff to profile in a late-inning role, but extremely risky prospect with injury and command profile concerns due to delivery. Long way to go developmentally.

I like it, for both sides. You buy enough lottery tickets, a few will win. And unlike the actual lottery, the payoff on the winning prospect lottery ticket is usually high enough to offset the losers. And the players look like they have the potential to be useful parts in the future.

The Sox need Reed much more than we do. For the Mets, maybe Reed is the difference between winning 79 games this year and winning 81. I'd rather win 81, but I'd even more rather have some guys who can help us in the future, when in a better world we're contending for a playoff spot. For the Sox, Reed can be the difference between winning the AL East and winning nothing.

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[Farmer Ted]

Nogosek was a teammate of Mets 2017 top pick David Peterson while matriculating at Oregon. So, there's that.

For the wifey watch, Stephen and lady friend Emily Sweet are planning a January 2018 wedding.

[bmfc1]

From Fangraphs:

Callahan, Bautista, and Nogosek, again, are all 22-year-old righties. When Eric examined the system last offseason, they were each included among “other prospects of note.” Callahan is closest to the bigs, having made 22 appearances in Triple-A. He continues to run low contact rates, but he’s in need of further polish around the edges. Bautista is a guy with a big fastball and a developing everything else. To this point he’s issued too many walks in high-A. Nogosek might move quickly, as a recent pick out of U-Oregon, but he has a funnier delivery that’s made him an awful lot more successful against righties than lefties. The majors include any number of relievers who’re far better against righties than lefties, but few of them are pitching critical innings, on account of that exploitability. Out of that group, the Mets could find three new relievers. More likely, they’ll eventually find one, and he might be more of a sixth-inning guy than an eighth-inning weapon. It’s the going rate for a rental, I guess, and Addison Reed was never going to fetch a package like Aroldis Chapman.

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/the-red-sox-now-have-a-second-good-reliever/

[Edgy MD]

Between Stanford and Oregon, whoever is scouting the Pac-12 sure has the Mets' full faith.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

Quick question: why are we AIMING at guys who are minor league relievers?

[Frayed Knot]

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Quick question: why are we AIMING at guys who are minor league relievers?

Because our requests for Evan Longoria and Mookie Betts were turned down?

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

Har.

We arguably had the best available relief resource this side of Brad Hand... and we're aiming for minor-league relief arms. The Sox have a handful of better prospects (Mata, Shawaryn, Beeks). Our system is starter-poor (moreso for giving away Merandy Gonzalez for Walk Machine the other day). We paid Reed's freight. We aren't getting ONE potential starter?

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

Oh, wait. The Sox are paying Reed's freight.

I hat being the guy shouting "Freddy Coupons" in the room, but if $2.6M in savings was any consideration in not bringing in a team-controlled starting prospect (whose value, even if mediocre, tends to be in the tens of millions and upward)... then that's just unsmartish.

[Edgy MD]

Who is this unicorn of whom you speak?

[Guest d'Kong76]

T-minus 00:10:00 to two more months of guys who got us nothing
and won't be back next year....