IGT #44 5/24 Vote Con4to

[Ceetar]

Gsellman versus Jarred Cosart, not Zack Cozart.

No Padre has seen Bobby, whereas Granderson is 0/17 against 'red. If Bruce can go, expect to see Curtis sit.

[Edgy MD]

Good day to play José Reyes in center.

[Ceetar]

Edgy MD wrote: Good day to play José Reyes in center.

TJ Third, Flores short? I guess. I hate that the Mets punt defense this aggressively. Though you have to do Lagares in Center and Reyes in right...

I'd just play Granderson, 0/17 is extremely small sample.

[Frayed Knot]

Might as well get all you can out of Granderson now seeing as how the days of him being a full-time player are numbered, quite possibly in the single digits.

[Edgy MD]

Ceetar wrote: Good day to play José Reyes in center. TJ Third, Flores short? I guess.

Or TJ at short. Or Reynolds at short.

Ceetar wrote: I hate that the Mets punt defense this aggressively.

Agreed, but Reynolds at short wouldn't be punting, and given a little time, Reyes would probably give you at least as much in center as Granderson.

Ceetar wrote: Though you have to do Lagares in Center and Reyes in right...

Unless you do Reyes in center and Bruce Magoose in right.

Ceetar wrote: I'd just play Granderson, 0/17 is extremely small sample.

I don't know. Maybe, but I'm holding it side-by-side with his 24-for-145 this season.

[Ceetar]

I actually forgot about Reynolds. oops! Flores has good numbers against Cosart, also in a pretty meaningless sample, so he'll probably be in there somewhere.

Granderson actually has a .910 OPS over the last 14 games.

[ashie62]

Jose Reyes seems like he could be a natural in CF and lord knows he hits better than Lagares.

You could move Lagares out of the organization and replace him with Nimmo.

You might get a couple high A guys for Laggy. Pitchers please.

[Ceetar]

Ashie62 wrote: Jose Reyes seems like he could be a natural in CF and lord knows he hits better than Lagares. You could move Lagares out of the organization and replace him with Nimmo. You might get a couple high A guys for Laggy. Pitchers please.

Lagares is hitting better than Reyes this year.

Reyes has no range in the infield, and no practice judging fly balls isn't going to give him good range in the outfield.

Lagares adds a ton of value in the outfield.

I'm still not convinced we shouldn't be aiming for a Cespedes-Lagares-Conforto outfield by July.

[Guest d'Kong76]

Maggot CF
Solarte 2B
Myers 1B
Schimpf 3B
Renfroe RF
Cordoba LF
Aybar SS
Torrens C
Cosart P

[Guest d'Kong76]

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[Edgy MD]

Bruce to the bench still doesn't get Conforto in the three-hole.

[Ceetar]

Edgy MD wrote: Bruce to the bench still doesn't get Conforto in the three-hole.

Much like last year, Terry loves those homers with no one on base.

[Chad ochoseis]

Conforto has a .425 OBP to go with the home runs. Nobody else on the team comes close. I don't know what sabermetricians think of batting order (as far as I know, they don't know either), but it's not a slam dunk to me that we'd get more out of Conforto by putting him in the middle of the order and somebody with a .320 OBP in the leadoff spot.

[seawolf17]

Chad Ochoseis wrote: Conforto has a .425 OBP to go with the home runs. Nobody else on the team comes close. I don't know what sabermetricians think of batting order (as far as I know, they don't know either), but it's not a slam dunk to me that we'd get more out of Conforto by putting him in the middle of the order and somebody with a .320 OBP in the leadoff spot.

This. Leave him there.

[Frayed Knot]

Yeah, I think it's more about not having another great (or even good) option at leadoff than anything else.
Reyes, even with his recent "resurgence" (finally off the interstate!!) is still OBA'ing under .300 and at least Terry isn't just falling back on Jose's 'lead-off-ed-ness' as his sole criteria.
Grandy is at .166/.231 (BA/OBA); Lagares = .220/.304

Would Walker at #1 and Conforto 3rd make a difference as opposed to the other way around? Prolly not.

Chad Ochoseis wrote: I don't know what sabermetricians think of batting order (as far as I know, they don't know either) ...

They're pretty much of the opinion that, as long as you don't do something really stupid, the specific order doesn't matter a whole lot.

[Ceetar]

Frayed Knot wrote: Chad Ochoseis wrote: I don't know what sabermetricians think of batting order (as far as I know, they don't know either) ... They're pretty much of the opinion that, as long as you don't do something really stupid, the specific order doesn't matter a whole lot.

The idea here is that the extra AB you get from Conforto's .420 OBP is negated by the much lower volume of runners on base by being leadoff.

I don't have the numbers in front of me to say how many more, but it's gotta be good for a few more runs moving him down to second or third. Traded for simply having a few more total AB here and there and the difference between Conforto and Reyes every once in a while.

This is why you put your best hitters second or third. You still want guys one for them.

[ashie62]

I'm sorry but Lagares just isn't that good. He had his career year on defense and can't steal first.

I would take a couple pitchers for Lagares, promote Nimmo and be very satisfield.

[Frayed Knot]

d'Kong76 wrote: Maggot CF Solarte 2B Myers 1B Schimpf 3B Renfroe RF Cordoba LF Aybar SS Torrens C Cosart P

Heh, heh ... Maggot


Do you suppose that this Cordoba guy in LF has a glove made out of rich Corinthian leather?

[Edgy MD]

Andy Green is one baby-faced manager.

Two on for our new #3 hitter Neil Walker.

[Edgy MD]

Hey, Pads. Cut the delay-of-game tactics and play some baseball.

[Edgy MD]

Delay that.

[Edgy MD]

Duda scoring from first on a double. Flores scoring from second on a single.

#TeamSpeed

[Edgy MD]

A lot of hand spinners behind the plate tonight.

Is this a Met tradition now?

[Edgy MD]

Con4titude. Unstoppable.

[Lefty Specialist]

En 4uego.

[ashie62]

Wilmer also.

Asdrubal will get as much rest as he needs.

Gsell steppin up.

[Edgy MD]

Two d'Arnauds have pinch-hit in this game.

And unfortunately, Chase is the one with a hit.

[Edgy MD]

Chase wears the lower-case "d" also.

[Edgy MD]

Boo. Tying run on .

[Edgy MD]

Trivia answer: Bill Almon.