Ottoneu 2017

[metsmarathon]

i think that it's worth figuring out hte parameters now, and getting league input, too. before we need to.

each team protects X number of players, and the expansion team gets to pick Y number of players overall. and what happens when one of your players gets picked? is there a maximum number of players you can pick off a given team?

and when would we run the expansion draft?

what if an owner crops up in-season? it's easier if we do it in the off-season, but that's no panacea either...

if we wait to figure it out until we need to figure it out, we won't have time to figure it out until it's too late.

[Ceetar]

metsmarathon wrote: i think that it's worth figuring out hte parameters now, and getting league input, too. before we need to. each team protects X number of players, and the expansion team gets to pick Y number of players overall. and what happens when one of your players gets picked? is there a maximum number of players you can pick off a given team? and when would we run the expansion draft? what if an owner crops up in-season? it's easier if we do it in the off-season, but that's no panacea either... if we wait to figure it out until we need to figure it out, we won't have time to figure it out until it's too late.

If someone picks up the team mid-season then we do nothing and just go with it. (though to be fair I'd let them cut all the players I filled the team with for free. Barry Bonds, Tim Wakefield, etc)

My initial thought is just to spread the love around. Everyone can protect 3 players, the new owner would take 1 player from each team. They'd start with 11 players and I think that's a fine number. I'd want to do this before the keeper deadline.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

I believe irl expansion drafts allow clubs to protect 15 guys each plus another three for every guy picked up to 35. We could probably set the first number to 10 and still give the expansion club a good start.

[metsmarathon]

i think the correct number would be closer to 10 than 3.

i mean, if i could seed my team with the 4th best player from each team, well, hell, i might just drop my own team and pick up initech at the end of the year!

if i just look at the 4th best player on each team, you'd get the following:
Cory seager | albatrosses
Carlos Carrasco | Assassins
Jose Bautista | Baconators
Edwin Encarnacion | Deathship
Andrew Miller | Lunchladies
Jose Altuve | Monks
Lance McCullers | Red Flyers
Mookie Betts | Chickens
Rich Hill | smg58
Carlos Gonzalez | Snukes
Aroldis Chapman | Devil Toads

that's a hell of a team to start with - where do i sign up?

11th best player on each team still gives a solid lineup. i haven't gone all the way through it, but it'd still be a decent seed to plant. especially if it runs through like a full expansion draft. the real challenge would be how to run it efficiently and quickly.

[smg58]

Anybody Know who Rougned's Odor is? He took over Initech's "team" and just started a whole bunch of auctions. I'm all for not competing on any of his initial bids.

[Ceetar]

smg58 wrote: Anybody Know who Rougned's Odor is? He took over Initech's "team" and just started a whole bunch of auctions. I'm all for not competing on any of his initial bids.

yeah, figured I'd let him get his fill of waiver stuff.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

I think if you have the cash you owe it to the league to bid the guy up. I have three bucks and will make him pay for someone

[Ceetar]

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: I think if you have the cash you owe it to the league to bid the guy up. I have three bucks and will make him pay for someone

I mean, if I see a guy I'd actually use, but I'd rather save my cash for injury replacements.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Ceetar wrote: John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: I think if you have the cash you owe it to the league to bid the guy up. I have three bucks and will make him pay for someone I mean, if I see a guy I'd actually use, but I'd rather save my cash for injury replacements.

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Yeah, but that guy has a mint and no alternatives, he'll pay $3 for Joe Panik or Shelby Miller believe me

[Ceetar]

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: I think if you have the cash you owe it to the league to bid the guy up. I have three bucks and will make him pay for someone I mean, if I see a guy I'd actually use, but I'd rather save my cash for injury replacements. ' Yeah, but that guy has a mint and no alternatives, he'll pay $3 for Joe Panik or Shelby Miller believe me

exactly, so let him get the guys cheap and then I'll trade him more expensive guys for cap space.

[metsmarathon]

except anybody he gets that a real good value, will continue to be a real good value next year, and if he's smart and good and a little lucky, he could easily build a juggernaut for next year, if we let him slide this year.

fairly bid on the waiver wire guys you could use, or have interest in, i say. there's no reason he should get every guy for a buck.

also, if you want to be able to get literally ANY decent mid-season waiver wire pickups, you should probably bid him up now.

[metsmarathon]

of course, maybe his strategy is to get us all to bid up against him, saddling us with players that we ourselves don't want, so that he can swoop in on our cuts! that clever devil!

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Like I said, he went to $3 on Miller and I'm sure you'll have me to thank for his going $3 on Joe Panik. I didn't lose any of what little cash I have.

[Ceetar]

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Like I said, he went to $3 on Miller and I'm sure you'll have me to thank for his going $3 on Joe Panik. I didn't lose any of what little cash I have.

Did you tell him you were bidding him up? these auctions are silent no?

I was going to bump Dilson Herrera but I got distracted irl.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

You gotta monitor the auctions as I know only too well by losing every in-season bidding war I've ever entered. I just threw a couple bid s up on guys I figure I could use (or trade) and who at any rate valued more than $2 (which is basically MAX offer on anyone, given my current budget)

But I hate to see any opponent get a good thing without having to pay through the nose for it. Unless I hate the player, I bid every name up in the draft and only wound up this year with one high bid I might have preferred to be outbid on (Estrada at $6).

I'm sure all the GMs hate Sandy for getting Reyes for the real-world equivalent of a $3 Ottoneu salary, you know?

There's a bunch of $1 players on auction right now with bid expiring around 1 p.m. today and early tomorrow. Not suggesting collusion here, but a few thoughtful bid ups could triple this guy's payroll. It's a good strategy. Go!

[Ceetar]

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: You gotta monitor the auctions as I know only too well by losing every in-season bidding war I've ever entered. I just threw a couple bid s up on guys I figure I could use (or trade) and who at any rate valued more than $2 (which is basically MAX offer on anyone, given my current budget)

you can tell if someone's bid?

[seawolf17]

I picked up one of the auctions, and bid him up a buck on another, but there wasn't anyone there I was honestly all that excited about.

[metsmarathon]

well, i managed to snag a fairly superfluous joe panik... he should significantly overperform his $6 salary, though i'm not entirely sure how much playing time i'll be able to give him. i need to offload an anchor first.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Ceetar wrote: John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: You gotta monitor the auctions as I know only too well by losing every in-season bidding war I've ever entered. I just threw a couple bid s up on guys I figure I could use (or trade) and who at any rate valued more than $2 (which is basically MAX offer on anyone, given my current budget) you can tell if someone's bid?

I'm not sure if it explicitly tells you (it might) but you can look and see the high bid on every player in the acquisition pipeline. Look! Joe Panik for $6!!

[metsmarathon]

you can look at it after the fact, to help inform your future decisions.

[Ceetar]

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: You gotta monitor the auctions as I know only too well by losing every in-season bidding war I've ever entered. I just threw a couple bid s up on guys I figure I could use (or trade) and who at any rate valued more than $2 (which is basically MAX offer on anyone, given my current budget) you can tell if someone's bid? I'm not sure if it explicitly tells you (it might) but you can look and see the high bid on every player in the acquisition pipeline. Look! Joe Panik for $6!!

I don't think so..

what's the high bid for Gregory Bird?

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

By the way I invited the new guy to the pool. Also for a low labor game my brothers head to head Yahoo league wants more participants draft Thursday https://yho.com/mlb?l=54185&k=d19cba3cba6899a5&soc_trk=lnk&ikey=c3bc34d0abe41316

[Ceetar]

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: By the way I invited the new guy to the pool. Also for a low labor game my brothers head to head Yahoo league wants more participants draft Thursday https://yho.com/mlb?l=54185&k=d19cba3cba6899a5&soc_trk=lnk&ikey=c3bc34d0abe41316

I have a Yahoo spot if he's desperate I'll play, though I'll probably autodraft.

[metsmarathon]

i'd play another league, probably, but i cannot support an 8:00 PM draft.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

The whole thing is like, totally hands off it'll autodraft you a team of brand-name superstars or if you take 5 minutes to arrange a list of favorites, try and pick your favorites for you automagically.

[Ceetar]

Like I said, if you need I'll autodraft (I definitely don't have time or a spare brain cell irl right now) and happily play waiver wire and all that. plenty of midseason sleepers.

ceetar@gmail.com or just ceetar on yahoo if he wants to invite.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Hang tight checking in...

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

What the hell is going on in this league? 3 weeks ago I was trying to start a Fire Sale (Ceetar never responded to a generous trade offer to kick it off) this morning I'm a half-point out of first place, which is as close as the Lunchladies have ever been this deep into a season (top 5 teams are very close right now) and I forgot to activate Matz yesterday.

My thought was, "these other teams couldn't possibly suck as much as mine does" but I guess you do.

All that said, open to offers on intriguing property in exchange for same and where I can I save a buck. In general I'd like an elite shortstop and have homer-hitting first basemen up the wazoo

[seawolf17]

My whole frickin' team has been hurt more or less all season and I just don't know what to do with myself. I need to start clearing house.

[Ceetar]

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: What the hell is going on in this league? 3 weeks ago I was trying to start a Fire Sale (Ceetar never responded to a generous trade offer to kick it off) this morning I'm a half-point out of first place, which is as close as the Lunchladies have ever been this deep into a season (top 5 teams are very close right now) and I forgot to activate Matz yesterday. My thought was, "these other teams couldn't possibly suck as much as mine does" but I guess you do. All that said, open to offers on intriguing property in exchange for same and where I can I save a buck. In general I'd like an elite shortstop and have homer-hitting first basemen up the wazoo

Sorry. I'm sorta fried and overwhelmed, I didn't even notice your offer until you canceled it.

I'm actually thinking of giving up fantasy altogether after this season.