Schilling

[Frayed Knot]

Schilling always liked to talk and would rarely pass on the opportunity to do so. Remember that he's the guy who'd show up, willingly and un-announced, at 'Sons of Sam Horn' to talk baseball with on-line Red Sox fans.
And, like celebrities in a lot of fields (particularly in this day & age), I suspect that he lost sight of the idea that this tendency to share his wonderful self has its limits. One would think he'd have realized that two or three or four suspensions/admonishments ago ...

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

Ceetar wrote: Ashie62 wrote: Schilling lost investor, personal and taxpayer (Rhode Island) money. Why do public figures impale themselves on social media? With great power comes responsibility. Because they think they're better than us, smarter, more informed. And they never used to get called out on it. It was harder to fact check and when that became easier it still wasn't that easy to mass-distribute the fact, instantly, that the public figure is full of it.

He also is the kind of guy who seems to resent being told what/what not to do and when to do/not do it.

Congratulations, Curt! You're a jobless iconoclast!

smg58 wrote: As abhorrent as I find Schilling's posts to be, I'm more troubled by the fact that expressing a political opinion in a forum not directly connected to work can get somebody fired. I have a lot of Facebook friends who would be in trouble if this became the norm, and while Schilling is more of a public figure than most people, I don't see why that matters. (Keep in mind that the people who "make this shit up and then put it out there for idiots like schilling to reshare" are still, at least presumably, employed.)

Stupid actions often have stupid consequences.

[Ceetar]

Isn't Schilling the guy that claimed he'd take a drug test "right here, right now" and then backed down when someone called him on it?

[Edgy MD]

The guy I associated with that vow-and-run maneuver was future-Met Gary Sheffield.

[Frayed Knot]

I remember it as Sosa.

[Guest Mets Guy in Michigan]

Twitter have become a nest of hate speech.

Facebook is pretty bad, too. I have no idea why people post political stuff on there. I did like meme not long ago that said something like, "I've changed my mind on a political issue because I read a post on Facebook -- said no one, ever."

After the Flint stuff, I did unfollow a bunch of people because I got tired of reading nonsense. I'll follow again later, I'm sure.

For work, we post informational graphics and releases, but I can't think of too many overtly political things.

As for Schilling, I don't agree with him on issues, but I get a little queasy with this idea that we fire people because we disagree with them. I do understand that high-profile people represent their employer whether they are at work or at home, and that's something a person needs to remember. And I get that an employer can set conditions for working at their place, and that people working there accept those conditions or choose to work elsewhere.

And I think it was on ESPN recently where another on-air personality wore a "Caucasions" t-shirt with a logo of a white guy instead of CHief Wahoo. I think that was actually on the air, and not on social media. Seems like an inconsistent policy.

[Ceetar]

Mets Guy in Michigan wrote: Twitter have become a nest of hate speech.

not a nest, a lens.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Mets Guy in Michigan wrote: And I think it was on ESPN recently where another on-air personality wore a "Caucasions" t-shirt with a logo of a white guy instead of CHief Wahoo. I think that was actually on the air, and not on social media. Seems like an inconsistent policy.

Somehow you entirely missed the point of the Caucasians shirt. Anyone who was offended was supposed to take away a lesson, that Chief Wahoo is also offensive and should be retired. Or do you think the Caucasians shirt is offensive but Chief Wahoo isn't? That's an inconsistent policy!

[Guest Mets Guy in Michigan]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Mets Guy in Michigan wrote: And I think it was on ESPN recently where another on-air personality wore a "Caucasions" t-shirt with a logo of a white guy instead of CHief Wahoo. I think that was actually on the air, and not on social media. Seems like an inconsistent policy. Somehow you entirely missed the point of the Caucasians shirt. Anyone who was offended was supposed to take away a lesson, that Chief Wahoo is also offensive and should be retired. Or do you think the Caucasians shirt is offensive but Chief Wahoo isn't? That's an inconsistent policy!

I think you misunderstood my point. I wasn't offended by the shirt. I was pointing out that ESPN fired one staffer for making a political or controversial statement on social media, while another staffer was able to make a statement on air - and seemed to be praised for it.

Clearly it's time to retire Chief Wahoo. I'd say change the team name, too.

[Benjamin Grimm]

I agree with you on that. It's time to bring back the Cleveland Spiders.

[Edgy MD]

I don't think he was fired for making a controversial or political point. (The Network used to have Rush Limbaugh on the payroll.) I think he was fired for making a political point in a nasty dehumanizing manner, one that was embarrassing to his employer.

As locked in as folks are to their political sides, there IS a way to talk about an issue like the North Carolina law. That it's also a gross departure from the position of his employer is certain relevant, but it could be manageable.

I tend to think that satire has way too outsized a place in our culture and in our discourse, and we've gravitated toward thinking that anything satirical is credible. Curt Schilling sure has.

I've had a co-worker (VP level) forced to resign for far smaller transgressions in his social media life.

(Come to think of it, I may get in trouble myself for a post from yesterday.)

[Edgy MD]

Apparently, Fox Sports has taken a pass on him for now.

Does Breitbart have a sports division?

[TransMonk]

ESPN continuing to cut him even though he's already gone, too.

http://nypost.com/2016/05/02/curt-schilling-irate-after-espn-scrubs-him-from-red-sox-doc/

[Edgy MD]

Yeah, that strikes me as a nutty dude getting paranoid.

ESPN's "story" is utterly consistent with usual practice. You'd be shocked at how many Fresh Prince of Bel Air I've only seen part of because the game ran long and they needed to get back on schedule in time for the evening news.

Grow up, Curt, and stop stalking your old girlfriend.

[TransMonk]

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