Ultimate Expos

[Edgy MD]

Power it is.

Hard to mentally place a black player on the Philadelphia Athletics, but there you have it.

[Frayed Knot]

Edgy MD wrote: And the last active Philadelphia Athletic is... ?

I knew it wasn't Ryan Howard, he's not very athletic at all.

[The Big O]

Carl Pavano calls it quits. http://mlb.si.com/2014/02/27/carl-pavano-retire-twins-yankees-expos-marlins/

Guillermo Mota gives up the ghost. http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/nationals/rhp-guillermo-mota-retires-after-14-seasons/2014/03/02/3720da02-a230-11e3-b865-38b254d92063_story.html

[Edgy MD]

First of all, YAY! Guillermo Mota is retiring. Baseball just got that much better.

Second of all, and then there were 11.

19 =#BFBF00][crossout]Vladimir Guerrero[/crossout], of
39 years, 21 days old.
Final Game: 9/28/2011.
Retired 9/2013.

18 =#BFBF00][crossout]Geoff Blum[/crossout], 3b
40 years, 10 months, 7 days old.
Final Game: 7/17/2012.
Retired 1/14/2013.

17 =#BFBF00][crossout]Val Pascucci[/crossout], 1b/3b
35 years, 3 months, 12 days old.
Final Game: 9/27/2011.
Retired 1/15/2014.

16 =#0000FF]Javier Vazquez, sp
37 years, 7 months, 5 days old.
Most Recent Game: 9/27/2011
Hasn't officially retired, but inactive.

15 =#BFBF00][crossout]Carl Pavano, sp[/crossout]
38 years, 1 month, 22 days old.
Final Game: 6/1/2012.
Retired 2/27/2014.

14 =#BFBF00][crossout]Brian Schneider[/crossout], c
37 years, 3 months, 4 days old.
Final Game: 8/23/2012.
Retired 1/29/2013.

13 =#0000FF]Miguel Batista, rp/sp
43 years, 11 days old
Most Recent Game: 9/11/2012.
Currently a free agent.

12 =#BFBF00][crossout]Liv�n Hern�ndez[/crossout], sp
39 years, 11 days old.
Final Game: 9/29/2012.
Implied retirement 1/27/2014

11 =#BFBF00][crossout]Guillermo Mota,[/crossout] rp
40 years, 7 months, 5 days old
Final Game: 10/2/2012.
Retired 3/2/2104.

10 =#0000FF]Juan Rivera, lf
35 years 7 months 27 days old.
Most Recent Game: 10/3/2012.
Free agent, played in the minors in 2013.

9 =#0000FF]Jon Rauch, rp
35 years, 5 months, 3 days old.
Most Recent Game: 5/11/2013.
In camp on minor-league deal with Kansas City.

8 =#BFBF00][crossout]Ted Lilly[/crossout], sp
38 years, 1 month, 26 days old
Most Recent Game: 6/4/2013.
Retired 11/27/2013.

7 =#0000FF]Maicer Izturis, ss
33 years, five months, 18 days old.
Most Recent Game: 8/20/2013
Under contract with Toronto.

6 =#0000FF]Endy Chavez, of
36 years, 21 days old.
Most Recent Game: 9/23/2013
In camp on minor-league deal with Seattle.

5 =#0000FF]Jamey Carroll, 2b
40 years, 12 days old.
Most Recent Game: 9/27/2013.
In camp on minor-league deal with Washington.

4 =#0000FF]Bartolo Colon, sp
40 years, 9 months, 6 days old.
Most Recent Game: 9/27/2013.
Under contract through 2015 with the Mets.

3 =#0000FF]Scott Downs, rp
37 years, 1 months, 13 days old.
Most Recent Game: 9/28/2013.
Under contract with the White Sox,

2 =#0000FF]Bruce Chen, sp
36 years, 8 months, 11 days old.
Most Recent Game: 9/29/2013.
Under contract with the Royals.

1 =#0000FF]Luis Ayala, rp
36 years, 1 month, 18 days old
Most Recent Game: 9/29/2013.
In camp on minor-league deal with Washington.

[Edgy MD]

I'll check who among the above have more or less fallen away.

Meanwhile, name the only 20-game winner in Expo history.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

Rogers? Probably not, since it probably wouldn't be very trivia-ish if it were.

I'll revise: Bryn Smith.

[Edgy MD]

Not Bryn Smith.

Gyd giss, though. Bryn rocked an 18-5 season in 1985. Never topped 12 in any other season.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Randy Johnson? Pedro Martinez?

[Zvon]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Randy Johnson? Pedro Martinez?

The other Martinez? Dennis?

[Edgy MD]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Randy Johnson? Pedro Martinez?

No multiple guess dumps!!

Randy Johnson was mostly pretty bad as an Expo, going 3-4 and walking a terrifying 5.3 men per nine innings. He was a rare talent in that he turned the corner at pretty much the exact point he threw a no-hitter for the Mariners. Never has a light so definitively gone on. He was pretty bad, he threw a no-hitter, and then he was great for 15 years.

Pedro, on the other hand, had his first great season with Montreal, but they weren't such a great team. He went 17-8 in 1997, won the Cy Young Award, and got traded to Boston for Carl Pavano and Tony Armas, Jr.

El Presidente, on the other hand, played for the Expos back when there was no shame in coming there after starring elsewhere --- in Baltimore, in his case. He produced double-digit win totals seven straight times for the Quebe�ois, peaking at 16-7 in 1989. He also helped future Met Tim Burke bond with the son Burke adopted from Mart�nez' native Nicaragua.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Dan Schatzeder, why the hell not.

[Edgy MD]

Well, because he stated less than a third of his appearances as an Expo. Hard to win 20 that way. His top win season in the big O was during the first of his two tenures, going 10-5 (in 21 starts) in 1979 with a 2.83 ERA. That was good enough to get him traded to Detroit (straight up for Ron LeFlore!), but he floundered in the AL and was mostly a reliever by the time he returned to Canada in 1982.

And yes, I had forgotten Schatzeder ever played for the Mets.

[Benjamin Grimm]

I gave into temptation and looked it up. If I had a million guesses I would not have gotten it.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Dan Schatzeder, why the hell not.

I meant Charlie Lea, gimme a break

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

Going from Grimmy's clue... Walter Johnson? Hal Chase? Dan Schatzeder's neighbor, the corrections officer with the lovely tomato garden?

Or Steve Renko, mebbe?

[batmagadanleadoff]

Extremely eezy peezy quiz for me. I saved my TSN's from that era. I knew Grimsley won 20 for the Spos - but I didn't know he was their lone 20 game winner.

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[Edgy MD]

Charlie Lea was a good pitcher. Plus it was cool that a team could relieve Lea with Lee. He went 16-11/3.12 in 1983 and then was the All-Star starter, going 13-4 by mid-season in 1984, but injuries and lack of offensive support undermined his second half. He finished at 15-10, missed the next two seasons, and was never good again.

Schatzeder was a good guess, temporarily. Definitely from the era of their superstar outfield.

OE: Homerun by batmagadanleadoff! Look at that fucking hair. If that guy doesn't drive a primer-painted pickup truck without his shirt on around Babylon and surf at Jones Beach, I don't know what. That motherfucker isn't just a 20-game winner. He's your go-to source for WBAB bumper stickers.

[batmagadanleadoff]

I played '78 Strat O Matic and I can tell you that nobody drafted Grimsley in our NL all star league. He wasn't better than his teammate Steve Rogers that season, and definitely wasn't as good as nine game winner and ERA champ Craig Swan.

[batmagadanleadoff]

On second thought, Grimsley was indeed drafted in the 78 NL AS SOM league I played in. But he still wasn't as good as Swannie.

[Edgy MD]

Javier Vazquez officially retired this season when he went to work this season an international special assistant to Major League Baseball Players Association executive director Tony Clark. Can't yet find a statement of surrender from Miguel Batista. Wouldn't be surprised to find him in the Venezuelan winter league this year pitching himself into shape.

This is going to come down to Bartolo vs. Endy, I think.

19 =#BFBF00][crossout]Vladimir Guerrero[/crossout], of
39 years, 21 days old.
Final Game: 9/28/2011.
Retired 9/2013.

18 =#BFBF00][crossout]Geoff Blum[/crossout], 3b
40 years, 10 months, 7 days old.
Final Game: 7/17/2012.
Retired 1/14/2013.

17 =#BFBF00][crossout]Val Pascucci[/crossout], 1b/3b
35 years, 3 months, 12 days old.
Final Game: 9/27/2011.
Retired 1/15/2014.

16 =#BFBF00][crossout]Javier Vazquez[/crossout], sp
37 years, 7 months, 5 days old.
Most Recent Game: 9/27/2011
Retired April 30, 2014.

15 =#BFBF00][crossout]Carl Pavano, sp[/crossout]
38 years, 1 month, 22 days old.
Final Game: 6/1/2012.
Retired 2/27/2014.

14 =#BFBF00][crossout]Brian Schneider[/crossout], c
37 years, 3 months, 4 days old.
Final Game: 8/23/2012.
Retired 1/29/2013.

13 =#0000FF]Miguel Batista, rp/sp
43 years, 11 days old
Most Recent Game: 9/11/2012.
Currently a free agent.

12 =#BFBF00][crossout]Liv�n Hern�ndez[/crossout], sp
39 years, 11 days old.
Final Game: 9/29/2012.
Implied retirement 1/27/2014

11 =#BFBF00][crossout]Guillermo Mota,[/crossout] rp
40 years, 7 months, 5 days old
Final Game: 10/2/2012.
Retired 3/2/2104.

10 =#0000FF]Juan Rivera, lf
35 years 7 months 27 days old.
Most Recent Game: 10/3/2012.
Free agent, played in the minors in 2013.

9 =#0000FF]Jon Rauch, rp
35 years, 5 months, 3 days old.
Most Recent Game: 5/11/2013.
In camp on minor-league deal with Kansas City.

8 =#BFBF00][crossout]Ted Lilly[/crossout], sp
38 years, 1 month, 26 days old
Most Recent Game: 6/4/2013.
Retired 11/27/2013.

7 =#0000FF]Maicer Izturis, ss
33 years, five months, 18 days old.
Most Recent Game: 8/20/2013
Under contract with Toronto.

6 =#0000FF]Endy Chavez, of
36 years, 21 days old.
Most Recent Game: 9/23/2013
In camp on minor-league deal with Seattle.

5 =#0000FF]Jamey Carroll, 2b
40 years, 12 days old.
Most Recent Game: 9/27/2013.
In camp on minor-league deal with Washington.

4 =#0000FF]Bartolo Colon, sp
40 years, 9 months, 6 days old.
Most Recent Game: 9/27/2013.
Under contract through 2015 with the Mets.

3 =#0000FF]Scott Downs, rp
37 years, 1 months, 13 days old.
Most Recent Game: 9/28/2013.
Under contract with the White Sox,

2 =#0000FF]Bruce Chen, sp
36 years, 8 months, 11 days old.
Most Recent Game: 9/29/2013.
Under contract with the Royals.

1 =#0000FF]Luis Ayala, rp
36 years, 1 month, 18 days old
Most Recent Game: 9/29/2013.
In camp on minor-league deal with Washington.