Fred Says Money Will Be Available

[Ceetar]

People actually care which businesses the Mets do business with? Could probably dig up 'dirt' on half, if not more, of the companies on any given team's list of sponsors. As long as the money is green..

[MFS62]

batmagadanleadoff wrote: Any day now, they'll send Jeff Wilpon south of the border to strike a deal .

I can see the news story now:
"As part of a continuing efort to improve the pitching staff, the New York Mets have announced the signing of ex-major league pitcher Fernando Valenzuela and invited him to their major league Spring Training camp in Port St. Lucie."

Later

[Edgy MD]

Gwreck wrote: Want to hear about the Mets finances from someone other than Howard Megdal? No problem, the Post has you covered. The team is expecting to lose more than $10 million this year, after bleeding red the past two seasons, while attendance is projected to fall for a fifth straight year, The Post has learned.

Yeah, those are the team's own projections.

[ashie62]

Don't know how Forbes does this but the Mets clock in 6th in value ay 811 Million

with a 2012 Operating loss of 2.4 Million, a mere bag of shells

http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/mets/post/_/id/63054/forbes-mets-value-811m

[Lefty Specialist]

The problem with the rear-view mirror is that objects are always larger than they appear.

[Edgy MD]

And the problem with bats out of Hell is that they're always gone by the morning sun.

[Vic Sage]

And the problem with the future is that it ain't what it used to be.

[Ceetar]

Ashie62 wrote: Don't know how Forbes does this but the Mets clock in 6th in value ay 811 Million with a 2012 Operating loss of 2.4 Million, a mere bag of shells http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/mets/post/_/id/63054/forbes-mets-value-811m

What happened to 'projected loss of $70 million"? hell, wasn't that the amount budgeted for? It's all just creative accounting..

[Edgy MD]

Where's the $70 million figure coming from?

[Ceetar]

Edgy MD wrote: Where's the $70 million figure coming from?

I know I remember hearing something last year about the projected losses for 2012, I think it was $70 million.. I'll try to google for it later see if I can dig it up if no one else happens to remember. I've always been skeptical of these numbers and I always wonder what it does or doesn't include. My guesses were always that that big loss number was strictly Mets revenue against Mets payroll, not taking into account things like SNY and naming rights and maybe not even MLB licensing payouts, but I wish it was spelled out somewhere.

[Edgy MD]

The word "projected" had me thinking we were talking about the coming season.

[Frayed Knot]

$70 million as an operating loss was definitely cited quite possibly for the 2011 season IIRC -- a number which seemed overly large to me in that if you could lose that much in one year turning a profit in any year seemed almost impossible otherwise. IOW, who knows the accuracy of the source of these types of reports.

[Zvon]

Read this in the paper today and consider it the best article written about our guys this off season.
Mets must be smarter once they start spending
http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/mets/mets_must_be_smarter_once_they_start_UqaVxMfedx29ZvNer68RWL

[Edgy MD]

�The big thing for me is it feels like the Mets are stuck in some kind of purgatory,� an official from another NL team said recently, on the condition of anonymity. �They didn�t blow up their club like Houston did, but they also aren�t a serious threat in the NL East behind Washington, Atlanta, and even Philadelphia.

Filed before the Santana injury was known to be a KO, but Baseball Prospectus called the division suchly.

Washington: 86-76 / --
Atlanta: 83-79 / 3 GB
New York: 82-80 / 4 GB
Philadelphia: 81-81 / 5 GB
Miami: 69-93 / 17 GB

I guess that BP's predictions work from a mean of many outcomes and so they usually include divisions bunched tighter than they will end up after the one outcome that is a real-life season. But it suggests that, while the Mets are in purgatory, they are neither stuck there nor doomed to an uninteresting season.

(Unless Duda stinks it up some more. Then all bets are off.)