RA. Dickey Trade Rumors Deserve Their Own Thread

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Jayson Stark ?@jaysonst Sources say #Mets have gotten "serious" about trading R.A. Dickey as soon as this week. #Rangers & #Royals seen as most logical fits.

[Guest Swan Swan H]

That works - either Rangers Asset Dickey or Royals Asset Dickey.

[Benjamin Grimm]

I hate to see him go, but I do find myself hoping that the Mets get an irresistible offer for him.

[metirish]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: I hate to see him go, but I do find myself hoping that the Mets get an irresistible offer for him.

basically this is where I am.......I would really like to see him get a new contract but if the Mets were to get something that makes sense then do it....of course what I think makes sense and what they think makes sense could be totally different.....

[metsmarathon]

if we trade him, it better be worth it.

[Edgy MD]

Got Zack Wheeler for 60 potential games (44 in actuality) of Carlos Beltran. Sandy set his own bar high.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Who might Texas or Kansas City offer for R.A. Dickey?

And... the Royals were 72 and 90 in 2012. Why would they be trading young players for a 38-year-old pitcher?

[A Boy Named Seo]

Don't know about Texas but Wil Myers seems the dude everyone wants from KC. Don't know if he can be had, but he'd seem to fit our needs pretty well. KC also said to be 'interested' in James Shields and Jon Lester so they're lookin'.

[Frayed Knot]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Who might Texas or Kansas City offer for R.A. Dickey? And... the Royals were 72 and 90 in 2012. Why would they be trading young players for a 38-year-old pitcher?

KC has lots of young hitters, not so much in pitching.
They've already signed/traded for two pitchers this winter (Earvin Santana & Jeremy Guthrie) and are looking for more.
Wil Myers (RH - OF) - their best prospect and probably will be among the top 10 in all of baseball by those folks who rank such stuff this winter - has already been speculated about.


Texas has an interesting dilemma; still young SS Elvis Andrus is a good player but SS prospect Jurickson Profar is even youngerer and even betterer (at least potentially - hit .281/368/452 in AA as a 19 y/o).
Andrus is supposedly being dangled for pitching/other position help although a wrench just got thrown into those works by Profar pulling himself out of the Dominican Winter Lg season with a strained forearm.
Wonder what Dickey + Tejada would net?

Edited December 3, 2012 by Guest

[metirish]

Don't know about Texas but Wil Myers seems the dude everyone wants from KC. Don't know if he can be had, but he'd seem to fit our needs pretty well. KC also said to be 'interested' in James Shields and Jon Lester so they're lookin'.

A quick search shows Lester gets mentioned too.....I doubt Dickey gets us Myers?, or I should say that Dickey would be third on that list if you're the Royals.

Meanwhile an article on Myers and the science of predicting top prospects.....

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/cliff_corcoran/11/28/wil-myers-royals-top-10-prospects/index.html

[Ceetar]

Don't know about Texas but Wil Myers seems the dude everyone wants from KC. Don't know if he can be had, but he'd seem to fit our needs pretty well. KC also said to be 'interested' in James Shields and Jon Lester so they're lookin'. A quick search shows Lester gets mentioned too.....I doubt Dickey gets us Myers?, or I should say that Dickey would be third on that list if you're the Royals. Meanwhile an article on Myers and the science of predicting top prospects..... http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/cliff_corcoran/11/28/wil-myers-royals-top-10-prospects/index.html

And yet Dickey's got a cheap price next year and was the best of those three over the last three years. If there's no insane demand for him, theoretically it drives the price of the extension down.

[Guest Swan Swan H]

The Anaheims are also supposedly looking for pitching. Peter Bourjos had a nice year in 2011 but got Trouted in 2012.

[Edgy MD]

Is he bordering on Trout? That's the question, I think.

[Guest Swan Swan H]

Edgy MD wrote: Is he bordering on Trout? That's the question, I think.

I think this year Trumbo and Trout are Bordering on Bourjos, but that could change.

[metirish]

I really trout that we get a Grade A prospect here.....very troutful.

[Guest Swan Swan H]

metirish wrote: I really trout that we get a Grade A prospect here.....very troutful.

Irish is fishing for a BOC....

[Edgy MD]

Rumors have the Mets talking with Boston and interested in outfielder Jackie Bradley and shortstop Xander Boegaerts.

My Daddy always told me that if somebody offers you a Xander Boegaerts, you take it.

[Edgy MD]

Coincidentally, topping Beisbol America's Boston Red Sox Prospect List.

[Frayed Knot]

BP's too

Xander Bogaerts - Position: IF
DOB: 10/01/1992
Height/Weight: 6�3�� 175 lbs.
Bats/Throws: R/R
Drafted/Acquired: International free agent, 2009, Aruba
2012 Stats: .302/.378/.505 at High-A Salem (104 games); .326/.351/.598 at Double-A Portland (23 games)
The Tools: 6+ hit; 6+ power potential; 6 arm

What Happened in 2012: You mean, besides hitting for power and average in the Carolina League before moving up to Double-A as a teenager and continuing the offensive onslaught by ripping 15 extra-base hits in only 23 games?

Strengths: Simple, fluid swing mechanics; very natural barrel-to-ball relationship; projects to hit for both plus power and batting average; shows plus-plus bat speed; shows ability to drive the ball all over the park; can square velocity; arm is plus; plays game with feel and instincts; solid glove; could have above-average defensive profile at third base.

Weaknesses: Aggressive in the box; soft and spinning can get him off-balance; will need to expand pitch appetite (fastball eyes); exaggerated swing plane limits stay in the zone; good athlete, but lacks plus speed; physical maturation process could leave speed below-average; limited range at shortstop; fielding actions can be stiff; not ideal profile for middle-of-the-diamond.

Overall Future Potential: 7; all-star
Explanation of Risk: High risk; excellent makeup, but lofty ceiling; still lots of developmental space between present/future.

The Year Ahead: It�s hard to imagine Bogaerts taking another step forward in 2013, but it�s entirely possible. His swing is full of grace, and the power that flows from the hit tool could make him a very special player if everything goes according to plan. He still needs refinement in all phases of the game, and an extended stay in Double-A could expose some of the weaknesses in his offensive approach. While its possible that he remains at shortstop going forward, his defensive profile isn�t ideal at the position at the highest level, and as the 6�3�� 175-lb. 20-year-old continues to grow into his body, his average-at-best speed will tick down and his range at the position will prove to be inadequate. Regardless, his bat has middle-of-the-order potential, and could make him an all-star if he reaches his ceiling.

Major league ETA: 2013




with Bradley as #2

Jackie Bradley - Position: CF
DOB: 04/19/1990
Height/Weight: 5�10�� 180 lbs.
Bats/Throws: L/R
Drafted/Acquired: 1st round, 2011 draft, University of South Carolina (Columbia, SC)
2012 Stats: .359/.480/.526 at High-A Salem (67 games); .271/.373/.437 at Double-A Portland (61 games)
The Tools: 7 all-around defensive profile; 5+ hit tool

What Happened in 2012: In his first full-season, Bradley crushed in High-A, and after a promotion to Double-A, continued to show a mature approach to all phases of the game.

Strengths: Special baseball instincts; plus glove; strong arm; average speed, but preternatural feel for position; moves before ball is put in play; precise routes and angles; plus-plus overall profile at premium position; advanced approach at the plate; good pitch-recognition skills; knows his pitch pocket and attacks; solid-average hit tool; tough out.

Weaknesses: Lacks plus speed; relies on first-step quickness and instincts for range; game power plays below-average; most likely a down-the-lineup offensive threat.

Overall Future Potential: 6; first-division player
Explanation of Risk: Moderate risk; Bradley is a natural baseball player with now skills; only risk is full development of bat.

The Year Ahead: Bradley isn�t long for the minors, with a glove that is ready for the bright lights. The bat isn�t special and could use more reps in the minors, but he�s a mature talent that should be ready for a major-league assignment at some point in 2013. Bradley can make every play in center, and he can do so without making it look like a big production. He has Gold Glove potential at the position, and as long as the bat can play in the average range, he�s a first-division talent.

Major league ETA: 2013

[Guest sharpie]

ESPN column:

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/8706592/boston-red-sox-7-others-talk-new-york-mets-ra-dickey-source-says

[ashie62]

Texas---Andrus
KC- Moustakas

[Frayed Knot]

sharpie wrote: ESPN column: http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/8706592/boston-red-sox-7-others-talk-new-york-mets-ra-dickey-source-says

Selected clips from that piece:

-- The Mets met with eight teams Monday about Dickey, the source said.

-- He acknowledged also speaking with clubs about left-hander Jonathon Niese.

-- Alderson said he would be looking for "difference-makers" in return for Dickey - "Because R.A. is a difference-maker." - not low-Class A prospects. He added that the incoming player would not necessarily have to be an outfielder or catcher, the two areas of most glaring need for the club.

-- if we're going to do something -- and I want to emphasize, we may not -- if we do something, we want whatever comes back to us to have an impact on us as soon as possible."

-- Alderson said a resolution with Zack Greinke as a free agent definitely could affect how much the Mets could command for Dickey in a trade.

-- The Mets might give a team a window to negotiate an extension with Dickey.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Jackie Bradley is like, the new Mookie.

[Guest vtmet]

If the Mets were on the brink of success, it would make sense to hold onto Dickey...but they aren't...

Mets are hurting at catcher and to a lesser degree the OF...Acquiring OF components is less difficult than acquiring a solid catcher; so if Dickey can yield us a good young catcher that can hit and perform all the duties of a catcher than I think that you have to do it...even if the fans aren't happy about it...

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

vtmet wrote: If the Mets were on the brink of success, it would make sense to hold onto Dickey...but they aren't... Mets are hurting at catcher and to a lesser degree the OF...Acquiring OF components is less difficult than acquiring a solid catcher; so if Dickey can yield us a good young catcher that can hit and perform all the duties of a catcher than I think that you have to do it...even if the fans aren't happy about it...

I'm all for driving a hard bargain but to the extent such players even exist most wouldn't come in a trade (Posey, Weiters). I think studly young position players are the way to go, considering how much O we'll need.

[Ceetar]

vtmet wrote: If the Mets were on the brink of success, it would make sense to hold onto Dickey...but they aren't...

Got it backwards actually. If the Mets don't hold on to Dickey, they're probably not on the brink of success.

[Guest vtmet]

Ceetar wrote: vtmet wrote: If the Mets were on the brink of success, it would make sense to hold onto Dickey...but they aren't... Got it backwards actually. If the Mets don't hold on to Dickey, they're probably not on the brink of success.

right but...with or without Dickey, they are a few years away from being on the brink of success so you might as well try to get a useful piece for the future that you don't already have on the farm...

[Benjamin Grimm]

I'm really starting to think that the most likely outcome to this will be a trade. There seems to be a lot of interest, and unless Sandy's asking price is simply too high for all of the suitors, I think we've seen the last of R.A. Dickey as a Met.

[metirish]

it sure is looking that way....I suppose I am a bit stunned that they are talking top of the line prospects..... did Alderson say that he wants players that can help soon? , how soon?, the players being talked about, are they ready soon?, it's a crapshoot I know ...

[Ceetar]

vtmet wrote: right but...with or without Dickey, they are a few years away from being on the brink of success

That remains to be seen.