2013 HOF In Balloting Thread

[Guest Mets � Willets Point]

Edgy MD wrote: Pretty compelling PED article from the magic year of 1969.

Painkillers? Was there a scourge of acetaminophen abuse marring the game?

[Ceetar]

Mets � Willets Point wrote: Edgy MD wrote: Pretty compelling PED article from the magic year of 1969. Painkillers? Was there a scourge of acetaminophen abuse marring the game?

Pretty tame compared to Toradol I imagine, but light years better than the 'put some ice on it' methods years before that.

[Edgy MD]

Read the article, man. People be dying.

[stevejrogers]

Ceetar wrote: two ways it goes I guess, he apologizes for his fellow teammates "everyone was doing it" but declares he wasn't which I don't think would go over well, or he notes it was all over, declares it evil, and lauds baseball for fixing it, which paints him as the hero in the writers eyes and they elect him next year. curious though, if he'll throw anyone under the bus.

FWIW, I think Lance Armstrong pretty much did in ANYONE from the Steroid Era getting in on the Writers Ballot now.

Because, even if they continue the Piazza approach, they'll still say "look at that creep Armstrong. All those passed tests, all those lawsuits, etc."

Even though Piazza's laid back approach is probably preferable, as opposed to what certain media types say that they'd do the obnoxious things that Armstrong and Clemens have done, its the fact that they feel so strongly about being lied to that I don't think anyone is getting in, not for a long while.

Oh FUCK! Does this mean that MFY Andy Pettitte will be the only one from this "era" making the Hall because he was forced to come clean in a Court of Law?

Christ, guy wasn't even THE GUY on those Yankee postseason teams. The guy is a glorified Ron Darling or Jerry Koosman (though I have heard someone make a HOF case for Kooz based on his career stats, besides win total, being comparable to The Manchurian Brave).

[Edgy MD]

Players from the steroid era will certainly make (and indeed, have made) it into the Hall of Fame via the writers' ballot.

[stevejrogers]

Edgy MD wrote: Players from the steroid era will certainly make (and indeed, have made) it into the Hall of Fame via the writers' ballot.

I agree, just trying to get into heads of the morons who leave Piazza and Bagwell off due to meer suspicions.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

SteveJRogers wrote: FWIW, I think Lance Armstrong pretty much did in ANYONE from the Steroid Era getting in on the Writers Ballot now. Because, even if they continue the Piazza approach, they'll still say "look at that creep Armstrong. All those passed tests, all those lawsuits, etc."

Well, with Armstrong, he didn't necessarily pass tests... he "passed tests" (most often via pressuring/extorting/making sizable donations to officials and organizations controlling said tests).

It's a different thing entirely. Not that THAT fact is germane-- people will still see it and think what they are inclined to think; I just think that those folk are likely "no" voters on steroid-rumor guys anyway.

[metsmarathon]

also lance was good enough and smart enough (and goshdarnit people like him!) to not allow himself to get tested when he would have failed it.