IGT 8/12/12 - Braves at Mets

[Zvon]

k, now this is getting silly.

[Frayed Knot]

No reason to make them actually earn it or anything.

[Edgy MD]

Dan Warthan needs to be a-slappin'.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

Double ties it. Homer wins.

[Frayed Knot]

I'd say we've got about a 50/50 shot at winning this game.

[Frayed Knot]

Now it's 20/80

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

I'd say that looks and feels about right.

[Zvon]

You're just talking fluffy bullshit Hersh.

Uh-oh. Bourn doubles in two. 6-5.

[Frayed Knot]

And all on ONE freakin' hit.

[Edgy MD]

Frayed Knot wrote: Edgy DC wrote: Edgin getting seriously squeezed and bases are loaded. Technically a save situation, and so Terry goes to Frank Francisco, because it's the law. Yeah, and also because Edgin retired just 2 of the 5 batters he faced.

And please re-read the "squeezed" part. Come on.

Francisco, pitching terribly, now has the tying run on third.

[Frayed Knot]

Edgin wasn't squeezed
There are no excuses for this inning by anyone.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

Oh, good. Good. This IS good, right?

[Frayed Knot]

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote: Oh, good. Good. This IS good, right?

Barely.

[Edgy MD]

Frayed Knot wrote: Edgin wasn't squeezed There are no excuses for this inning by anyone.

Yes he was. That's not an excuse but a reality confronting a manager. If you feel different, that's fine, but spare me the "Yeah, and..." sarcasm. I didn't walk anybody and neither did you.

[Zvon]

lol. It couldn't end in a routine way.

Well, it was both! A mostly good game and a dash of torture. Mets Win!

[Frayed Knot]

Edgy DC wrote: Frayed Knot wrote: Edgin wasn't squeezed There are no excuses for this inning by anyone. Yes he was. That's not an excuse but a reality confronting a manager. If you feel different, that's fine, but spare me the "Yeah, and..." sarcasm. I didn't walk anybody and neither did you.

Edgin threw 20 pitches and hit the strike zone (or got a swing) 9 times. In between getting two guys out (FO + K) he walked a guy on 4 pitches, walked a guy on 5 pitches, and missed the zone by 2-1/2 feet when his 0-1 pitch drilled Freddie Freeman up under the back of his neck.

Even if you're arguing that that S/B ratio should have been - what, 11/9 rather than 9/11? - do you really think there was no justification in removing him and would have left him in to face, in all probability, RH-swinging PH David Ross (.273/.360/.473 -- and .306/.385/.510 vs LHP) with the bases loaded and that Terry did so only because the Closer Alarm Bell in his head went off?

[Edgy MD]

I think, I think, I think.

I think there were at least two guys I'd prefer before Francisco, and three counting Edgin. They could have been up earlier and been brought into a stabler situation. Francisco needs demotion in his status and is hardly an improvement on anything. I'd bring the right guy in when he can help, not the designated closer exactly when the situation becomes a save situation.

I disagree about how many times Edgin hit the strike zone. I disagree with designated closers. I disagree to going to one there even if he is the best pitcher. I think it's demonstrably evident that Francisco missed the strike zone more consistently or decisively than Edgin or anybody. And I disagree that I deserved your sarcasm. But I opened it up with how I criticized the move, so I guess I'll clean my own house.