Edgy MD Site Manager Posted June 3, 2012 Posted June 3, 2012 Holy crap! An old-fashioned newspaper war.
G-Fafif Old-Timey Member Posted June 3, 2012 Posted June 3, 2012 Per the observation of a friend, the Post-Dispatch had plenty of asterisks left over that it didn't use during its spate of Mark McGwire headlines.
batmagadanleadoff Old-Timey Member Posted June 3, 2012 Posted June 3, 2012 metirish wrote:St Louis Post Dispatch had No Hitter with an asterisk, couldn't grab a url though.The headlines keep on comin' for Johan
TransMonk Old-Timey Member Posted June 4, 2012 Posted June 4, 2012 Peter King wrote the following about Howie in his Monday Morning NFL column on CNN/SI:Local boy makes good.There was a no-hitter in New York Friday night. Johan Santana pitched the first no-hitter in the 51-year history of the Mets. Which is a crazy-enough story, that a team with so many good pitchers over the years never had a no-hitter until its 8,020th game, while the rest of baseball had 131 of them. But having lived in the New York area for 24 of the last 27 years, the first guy I thought of as I listened to the end of the game on the radio was the guy delivering the radio call -- in part because his called dripped emotion and excitement, in part because I knew what it meant to a kid born in Brooklyn, raised in Queens, and educated in high school in Bayside, Queens, and in college at Queens College."Santana steps behind the rubber, tugs once at the bill of his cap, takes a deep breath and steps to the third-base side of the rubber ... ''When Howie Rose was 8, in 1962, he remembers asking his parents excitedly the morning after the first Mets game in history, "How'd the Mets do last night?'' They'd lost. But as an 8-year-old, he felt the team had been created just for him. He followed them daily. Couldn't get enough of the lovable losers. When he was 15, he was in Shea Stadium the night Tom Seaver took a no-hitter into the ninth inning. With one out, Jimmy Qualls broke it up. Howie was crushed. Two other times Seaver lost no-nos in the ninth as a Met, and he didn't pitch one until he'd been exiled to Cincinnati. But still Howie Rose listened, and watched. While he was a wagon boy at the Waldbaum's supermarket, walking through the parking lot to gather the shopping carts with a transistor tuned to the games, while he played stickball in the playgrounds at school. When he was 12, he started wondering what it would be like to be behind the mike like the men he listened to every day, Bob Murphy on radio and Lindsay Nelson on TV. "My friends would fantasize about hitting the game-winning homer,'' Rose said to me Saturday. "I would fantasize about calling the game-winning homer." For the Mets."Santana into the windup, the payoff pitch is on the way ...""We have been bred with this inevitably,'' said Rose, meaning that no-hitters don't happen. So even in the ninth, he figured something would go wrong, particularly with Santana pitching to the meat of the Cardinals order. In addition, he didn't have time to be introspective, though a day earlier he'd had a great career highlight: He had given the commencement address at his alma mater, Queens College. "The odds were always stacked against me, the same as they must have been against you,'' he told me. "There's tremendous competition in the sports media. But when I was in high school, in college, I just thought, wouldn't it be great to be a broadcaster? Then I thought, wouldn't it be great to be a baseball broadcaster? Then, a broadcaster for the Mets? I had those dreams.And that's what I talked about Queens College: I told the kids you should never, ever, ever let anyone dissuade you from following your dreams. And now, here I was, in the ninth inning, with this seminal moment in Mets history on the line. Mind-boggling. Isn't it unbelievable how that happened?''And so here was David Freese, the World Series hero from last fall, one strike away from being Santana's 27th out, and Rose wanted to be sure he wasn't too calculating or too rehearsed. Just tell the story."Swung on and missed! Strike three! He's done it! Johan Santana has pitched a no-hitter in the eight thousand and twentieth game in the history of the New York Mets! They finally have a no-hitter, and who better to do it than Johan Santana! What a remarkable story! ... ""I felt a nanosecond of utter disbelief,'' Rose said. "I took one breath, saw them streaming out of the dugout, and the bullpen. It means plenty to me, because I've followed them for so long. But forget about me. The only thing I disciplined myself to do was try to stay under control. I just thought, describe, describe, describe, the scene on the mound, the scene in the stands. The call ... I thought about my stamping it with the date and the time. The great Vin Scully stamped Sandy Koufax's, but no one will ever be as lyrical as Vin Scully. That's his.''"His teammates are mobbing him at the mound. The players in the bullpen are trotting in. A surreal feeling at CitiField! The first no-hitter in the history of the New York Mets!''"There are very few days where I don't flash back to being in the ballpark in 1969,'' he said. "I'm unbelievably appreciative to have this job. When people tell me I'm this generation's Bob Murphy, I am just overcome by it. To whatever end a broadcaster can be considered part of the team, and part of Mets history in any small way because of this moment, I am very emotional about that.''After the game, and after the long postgame show, maybe 90 minutes after the last out, Rose walked into the Mets clubhouse to see if Santana was still there. He was. He walked up to Santana and hugged him."I never cry on the air,'' Rose said, "but tonight I came really, really close.""Did you cry?'' Santana asked."No, I disciplined myself,'' Rose said, and asked Santana to sign his scoresheet for the game.And that's the story of a guy doing what he should be doing in life.***Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/peter_king/06/03/mmqb/index.html#ixzz1wpp7Hga8
batmagadanleadoff Old-Timey Member Posted June 4, 2012 Posted June 4, 2012 Predict tomorrow's headline:THE SANTANA NO-HITTER: DAY FOUR
batmagadanleadoff Old-Timey Member Posted June 4, 2012 Posted June 4, 2012 Holy crap! An old-fashioned newspaper war.It's on.New Yorkers are so cute. They pretend to be blas� and sophisticated, but when you get right down to it, they're just as parochial as those of us out here in "fly-over country."Consider the bristling objections in the Sunday edition of The New York Daily News � the voice of New York's regular guys � to the tiny little asterisk that the Post-Dispatch inserted behind "No-Hitter" in a headline on Saturday's sports page.The New York Mets' Johan Santana pitched a no-hitter* against the Cardinals Friday night at the Mets' stadium, which is named after a too-big-to-fail bank. The fact that it was the first no-hitter in Mets' history, and the fact that it occurred in New York, automatically gave it far more cosmic significance than the 205 no-hitters in modern big-league history not thrown by pitchers for other New York teams.There was a bad call in the sixth inning, when the Cardinals' ex-Met Carlos Beltran's liner over the third base bag was called foul by umpire Adrian Johnson. Hey, it's baseball. These things happen. You have to acknowledge them. You don't have to get over them.The Daily News had the effrontery to sneer that "the Post-Dispatch couldn't locate the asterisk key while Mark McGwire was swatting 220 steroid-aided home runs" and setting "bogus records" for the Cardinals. But you didn't see us whining about steroids when the New York Yankees' Roger Clemens won his 300th game against the Cardinals in 2003.We're used to these things. The late Bob Forsch pitched a no-hitter* for the Cardinals in 1978 that got its asterisk thanks to a controversial official scorer's call by the Post-Dispatch's Neal Russo. Five years later Mr. Forsch pitched a clean no-hitter, thus giving this one Cardinals' pitcher twice as many no-hitters as all the Mets in history.And then there was the Kansas City Royals 1985 World Series championship*, also the product of a bad call by an umpire. You get over these things. Eventually. Sort of.But the asterisks stay.Copyright 2012 stltoday.com. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.Read more: http://www.stltoday.com/news/opinion/columns/the-platform/editorial-yo-new-york-get-over-it-asterisks-are-part/article_47dfa37a-804f-5fef-bf3c-0c09208e32c2.html#ixzz1wtaHPWVe
Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket Guests Posted June 5, 2012 Posted June 5, 2012 The Snooze ought to be above taking the bait of pretend cities taking shots at NY sports teams but it actually appears to be a priority of theirs. It's gross.
metirish Old-Timey Member Posted June 5, 2012 Posted June 5, 2012 Caught Francesa on the way home yesterday after the Mets game finished, he couldn't have been more effusive about the no hitter, Santana and the whole Mets weekend. Absolutely slammed as petty, vindictive and silly any talk about the Beltran foul ball, he and his missus were glued to the telly when they got home from dinner.
Ceetar Grand Central Contributor Posted June 5, 2012 Posted June 5, 2012 John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:The Snooze ought to be above taking the bait of pretend cities taking shots at NY sports teams but it actually appears to be a priority of theirs. It's gross.They live for that stuff. The most offensive part of that was them describing the paper as "Voice of New York's Regular Guys".Also, named for a 'too big to fail' bank line. They're named from a too big to fail beer so watch it..and maybe have a real beer. There's one within walking distance. The Morgan Street Brewery is pretty good, check it out.
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted June 5, 2012 Posted June 5, 2012 John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote:The Snooze ought to be above taking the bait of pretend cities taking shots at NY sports teams but it actually appears to be a priority of theirs. It's gross.Like.
Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Guests Posted June 5, 2012 Posted June 5, 2012 The News really DOES live for this, though. As in, there's almost no other reason for them to exist aside from petty public pissing matches.Also, congratulations on having fewer juvenile perpetrated murders* than Juarez, St. Loo!
batmagadanleadoff Old-Timey Member Posted June 5, 2012 Posted June 5, 2012 It's still Johan's world as the headlines keep on comin':Kim Kardashian sez Johan's a hottie, not a nottie.
batmagadanleadoff Old-Timey Member Posted June 5, 2012 Posted June 5, 2012 Predict tomorrow's sports headline:JOHAN'S UNHIT AGAINST STREAK NOW AT SIX DAYSNATS EDGE METS IN FIRST PLACE SHOWDOWN
G-Fafif Old-Timey Member Posted June 6, 2012 Posted June 6, 2012 METS FANS RESURRECTED!Many who claimed they could die happynow living in misery since National loss
batmagadanleadoff Old-Timey Member Posted June 8, 2012 Posted June 8, 2012 Predict tomorrow's sports headline:OH NO HAN!
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted June 9, 2012 Posted June 9, 2012 I'm glad that our no-hitter wasn't one of those stupid six-pitcher varieties.
Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Guests Posted June 9, 2012 Posted June 9, 2012 (edited) Benjamin Grimm wrote:I'm glad that our no-hitter wasn't one of those stupid six-pitcher varieties.I would've been okay with a Seaver-Koosman-Gooden-Darling-Pedro-Dickey no-hitter. Edited June 9, 2012 by Guest
metirish Old-Timey Member Posted June 9, 2012 Posted June 9, 2012 Benjamin Grimm wrote:I'm glad that our no-hitter wasn't one of those stupid six-pitcher varieties.me too, Millwood to his credit deflected any credit away from himself saying he did the easy part, was taken from the game with a tight hammy....David Cone was on the Wfan yesterday and mentioned being on the other side of the Astros multi-player effort to no-hit the MFY, said it felt like a ST game .
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted June 9, 2012 Posted June 9, 2012 I assume he means that because the Yankees hit like a AA team against major leaguers.
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted June 9, 2012 Posted June 9, 2012 metirish wrote:David Cone was on the Wfan yesterday and mentioned being on the other side of the Astros multi-player effort to no-hit the MFY, said it felt like a ST game .Right, because if the Yanx get no-hit then it's obvious that the game can't mean anything.The two things I remember from that game:1) that Roy Oswalt, then among MLB's top pitchers, got hurt after 1 inning and had to leave ... and I'm thinking; "the fucking Yanquis keep catching all the fucking breaks"2) that Wagner finished it having no idea that he had just completed a no-hitter. He seemed very confused by what he thought was the over-the-top reaction to the win from his teammates.
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