Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket Guests Posted March 26, 2012 Posted March 26, 2012 He's one of these guys I always forget is a Met. But you know, he's not an especially bad one. what do you think in 2012?
metirish Old-Timey Member Posted March 26, 2012 Posted March 26, 2012 Not only that but I forget that he is only 30 and not 43 or something like I used to think.IP - 54 - 3.05 ERA - SO - 51 - HITS - 49 a good year for Manny ....hard thrower too
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted March 26, 2012 Posted March 26, 2012 60 games, 3.30 ERA, five saves.He's on a Schaefer Reliever-of-the-Month streak; if he wins it in April it will be the third consecutive time.
MFS62 Old-Timey Member Posted March 26, 2012 Posted March 26, 2012 I don't have to make the call. He'll be called enough times this year - 62 of them, pitching 71 innings, to the tune of a 3.20 ERA.Evenyually, someone will realize he's doing better than most of the other closer candidates, and he will finish the year successfully closing 9 of his 10 opportunities.Later
Ceetar Grand Central Contributor Posted March 26, 2012 Posted March 26, 2012 3.2 ERA, 60 IP, 59 Ks, boatload of Holds, 1 wild pitch.
Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Guests Posted March 26, 2012 Posted March 26, 2012 The HR/9-- 1.15 last year-- seems a little shaky, especially considering that the fence-moving hadn't taken place yet.Still useful, but I'm thinking more like:48 G, 49 IP, 3.86 ERA, 47 K/16 BB, 7 HR allowed, 0 saves
Vic Sage Old-Timey Member Posted March 26, 2012 Posted March 26, 2012 40g, 45ip, 3.3 era, but he reverts to career norms by walking too many guys in key situations (5.1bb/9ip in over 500ip in the minors; 4.7bb in over 100ip with Atlanta), losing Collins' trust and falling on the depth chart to lower leverage situations. And wit Rauch, Ramirez and Parnell ahead of him, he never gets a sniff of the 9th inning.
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted March 26, 2012 Posted March 26, 2012 I agree that he never sniffs the ninth, but neither do I think that he'll fall so particularly out of favor. But on second thought, yeah, there'll be some stretches where Collins will seem to have forgotten his name for two or three weeks. He'll have some stretches where he's as good as anybody in the pen, some where he's as bad.55 games, 72 IP, 3.21 ERA. Might get traded if he's on an upswing at the deadline and the Met see themselves as sellers. He can be passed off as a Carlos Diaz.
Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket Guests Posted March 26, 2012 Posted March 26, 2012 I'm thinking our entire bullpen could be fired out of a cannon in July.Even if not, I think Manny is likely to continue being a slightly better than average reliever who will have to mind his meatballs while continuing to improve his control.3-3, 3.60, 50 games, 54 innings, 50/23 K/BB, 7 dingers
Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Guests Posted March 26, 2012 Posted March 26, 2012 Edgy DC wrote:I agree that he never sniffs the ninth, but neither do I think that he'll fall so particularly out of favor. But on second thought, yeah, there'll be some stretches where Collins will seem to have forgotten his name for two or three weeks. He'll have some stretches where he's as good as anybody in the pen, some where he's as bad.55 games, 72 IP, 3.21 ERA. Might get traded if he's on an upswing at the deadline and the Met see themselves as sellers. He can be passed off as a Carlos Diaz.That's a lot of innings for the third or fourth guy out of the bullpen door, no? (Or are you pencilling in a lot of short outings for the starters?)
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted March 26, 2012 Posted March 26, 2012 I'm thinking he gets a lot of two-inning mopup jobs, particularly early in the season, whereas a lot of the higher-profile guys will only get to work two-three outs per appearance.
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted March 26, 2012 Posted March 26, 2012 Biggest game of the year and Acosta on for the save.
metirish Old-Timey Member Posted March 26, 2012 Posted March 26, 2012 Edgy DC wrote:Biggest game of the year and Acosta on for the save.in a must win game?
Ceetar Grand Central Contributor Posted March 26, 2012 Posted March 26, 2012 metirish wrote:Edgy DC wrote:Biggest game of the year and Acosta on for the save.in a must win game?games 163/WC game. Frank Frank blew it in the 9th, Acosta in in the 19th.
batmagadanleadoff Old-Timey Member Posted March 26, 2012 Posted March 26, 2012 I've had it up to here with the way relievers are used what with the closer schmoser and the this guy gets the last inning and I know so two and a half weeks ahead of time no matter who's batting and what's on base so I'm not gonna make any predictions, 'specially about a pitcher who accumulates seasons 40 innings at a time.
Ceetar Grand Central Contributor Posted March 26, 2012 Posted March 26, 2012 batmagadanleadoff wrote:I've had it up to here with the way relievers are used what with the closer schmoser and the this guy gets the last inning and I know so two and a half weeks ahead of time no matter who's batting and what's on base so I'm not gonna make any predictions, 'specially about a pitcher who accumulates seasons 40 innings at a time.It's alright, we won't punish you (much) if you guess wrong.
Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Guests Posted March 26, 2012 Posted March 26, 2012 batmagadanleadoff wrote:I've had it up to here with the way relievers are used what with the closer schmoser and the this guy gets the last inning and I know so two and a half weeks ahead of time no matter who's batting and what's on base so I'm not gonna make any predictions, 'specially about a pitcher who accumulates seasons 40 innings at a time.Well, that's getting into the spirit of the thing!
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted March 26, 2012 Posted March 26, 2012 I do think he'll get a few save chances because I don't expect Francisco to hold down the "closer" job for the entire season, start to finish.And yes, I also despise this assigned-inning crap. I don't think it will last forever, but it has already gone on for far too long. Eventually some new conventional wisdom about bullpen management will come along. Whether it will be better or worse than what we have now, who can say?
batmagadanleadoff Old-Timey Member Posted March 26, 2012 Posted March 26, 2012 Benjamin Grimm wrote: Eventually some new conventional wisdom about bullpen management will come along. I'm glad to hear that. If there's one thing I learned in life, it's that nothing lasts forever.Except maybe Ed Kranepool's Met franchise all-time hit record.
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted March 26, 2012 Posted March 26, 2012 Ceetar wrote:metirish wrote:Edgy DC wrote:Biggest game of the year and Acosta on for the save.in a must win game?games 163/WC game. Frank Frank blew it in the 9th, Acosta in in the 19th.Oh, I mean today. Gorgeous stuff.
smg58 Old-Timey Member Posted March 26, 2012 Posted March 26, 2012 3.40 ERA in 65 IP. Not spectacular, but certainly serviceable. And better than two of the Mets' offseason acquisitions.
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted June 8, 2012 Posted June 8, 2012 Acosta pitched a perfect inning and a third yesterday. Struck out three of the four guys he faced, too.
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