Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket Guests Posted March 17, 2012 Posted March 17, 2012 A good proxy for the 2011 season with a relatively strong start that for awhile had him looking like the Mets' best starter then pretty much dogshit in July and August and gone completely in September.Can Niese put it together for a full year?
Ceetar Grand Central Contributor Posted March 17, 2012 Posted March 17, 2012 Sure. Strikes out guys, improved both his K rate and his BB rate last year from the year before.. let's up too many hits but..4.1 ERA, 180IP, 165 K, 1.35 WHIp.
MFS62 Old-Timey Member Posted March 17, 2012 Posted March 17, 2012 He'll have to show us he can break out of his end-of-season problems before I can predict anything more than the same..500 record (plus or minus one decision), fewer than 32 starts, 4.2 ERA.Later
Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Guests Posted March 17, 2012 Posted March 17, 2012 32 starts, 195 innings, 10-13 record, 21 HR allowed, career-high 173 K (and career highs in K/BB and K/9), career-low 3.69 ERA, career-low 1.33 WHIP, career low in ocean fish caught by swooping.
Guest Mets Guy in Michigan Guests Posted March 17, 2012 Posted March 17, 2012 I think he goes 17-10 and is named to the All-Star team., credits Carlos Beltran -- or at least Beltran's wallet.
ashie62 Old-Timey Member Posted March 17, 2012 Posted March 17, 2012 Make or break year for the lefty
TransMonk Old-Timey Member Posted March 17, 2012 Posted March 17, 2012 I predict a winning record and an ERA under 4.Niese finally gets it.
smg58 Old-Timey Member Posted March 17, 2012 Posted March 17, 2012 MFS62 wrote:He'll have to show us he can break out of his end-of-season problems before I can predict anything more than the same..500 record (plus or minus one decision), fewer than 32 starts, 4.2 ERA.LaterI'm with MFS on this.
Vic Sage Old-Timey Member Posted March 19, 2012 Posted March 19, 2012 8-14, ERA+ 100Lefties take a lot longer to figure it out.
Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket Guests Posted March 19, 2012 Posted March 19, 2012 Weird but his most similar by age thru 24 is Gio Gonzalez who put up a 130 ERA+ and made the All Star team last summer. 2nd most similar is Zach Duke who lost 15 games with a 90 ERA+ that year.Um, 12-11, 106 ERA+, gets ASG consideration and makes it because the Mets need a rep and Davis is hurt.
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted March 19, 2012 Posted March 19, 2012 I think the Mets have done well getting quality out of quantity when filling out the back end of their rotation --- finding guys who are nobody's ideas of top prospects, but can grind it out every fifth day for a year, have a few good runs along the way, but then the league catches up to them, and they regress and become the fringey guys they were supposed to be all along.Glendon Rusch, Jae Weong Seo, and John Maine, meet Jon Niese and Dillon Gee. Maybe.Yet something makes me believe a little in Niese. I'm still chewing on this a bit.
metirish Old-Timey Member Posted June 4, 2012 Posted June 4, 2012 This is scary , all the best Jon.NEW YORK -- Jon Niese came away from an examination with team doctors Monday satisfied he had no significant heart issue, but the New York Mets left-hander expects to undergo a minor surgical procedure during the All-Star break to correct a heartbeat that occasionally becomes irregular.Niese was pulled from Sunday's game against the St. Louis Cardinals after tossing six scoreless innings as a precaution because he experienced a rapid heartbeat during the game. He also was forced from a June 25, 2011 game at Texas, with comparable symptoms.Niese indicated he likely will have a minor surgical procedure during the July 9-12 All-Star break."But I wouldn't miss any starts," Niese said. "It's an 'ablation,' they call it. They go inside the heart and they crimp something of some sort -- like the cause of it. It's like an outpatient thing that they do that it only takes like three days to recover from after that. So that's why I think we might be doing it All-Star break. That way I don't miss any starts."Niese then displayed for reporters a brochure explaining the surgical procedure, which he had in his Citi Field locker after returning from the medical examination."Down the road I'll probably get something done to stop it all," Niese said. "But for right now it's nothing serious."Niese wore a Holter monitor for 24 hours after the 2011 episode, and an echocardiogram and an EKG were performed at Henry Ford Hospital in Detroit -- the Mets' next stop on that road trip. Doctors did not detect anything alarming at the time, Niese said, and the issue largely was dropped.Niese said he underwent comparable tests Monday that also found nothing alarming. This time he will not be required to wear the Holter monitor, he added.Niese's next start will come on a full week's rest, Sunday at Yankee Stadium.Manager Terry Collins described the extra rest as related to Johan Santana's altered schedule and not as a result of Niese's issue.Santana, coming off a career-high 134 pitches in a no-hitter against St. Louis, will be delayed two days from his regular turn and start Friday in the Bronx. Because Santana and Niese both throw left-handed, Collins wanted to slot right-hander Dillon Gee between them Saturday, prompting extra rest for Niese.Also Monday, right-handed reliever Jon Rauch was getting a postgame exam with team doctors. Rauch has been experiencing elbow tenderness, Collins said. Rauch served up the game-deciding two-run homer to Allen Craig in the eighth inning of the Mets' 5-4 loss Monday.http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/cardiac-ablation/my00706
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted June 4, 2012 Posted June 4, 2012 Niese indicated he likely will have a minor surgical procedure during the July 9-12 All-Star break.Hopefully everything turns out okay. Is he going to be sending Carlos Beltran a bill for this procedure?
Edgy MD Site Manager Posted June 4, 2012 Posted June 4, 2012 I don't forsee a recovery period that only lasts three days, but what do I know?
ashie62 Old-Timey Member Posted June 4, 2012 Posted June 4, 2012 Ashie62 wrote:Make or break year for the leftyThe Mets have bet on a make year.a "minor" heart procedure? Didn't know there were minor ones. Maybe the scnooz was his good luck charm.
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