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NOW is the time and place (take notice Howie & Wayne & Gary & Ron ... and, oh yeah, Rogers) for discussions of save totals and the like.

Reproducing (and updating) Steven J.'s chart below for reference -- [u:1fgbjkyl]Four of the 300+ relievers got both their first & 300th save for the same team[/u:1fgbjkyl].
Two answers are obvious: Mariano Rivera who famously has all 590 with the MFYs and now Jason Isringhausen who oddly has just 8 of his 300 (#1 and then 294-300) for the Mets
** Can you name the other two relievers/teams who fit this category? **
(one guess per person please as it's a limited field and the limited choices are in front of you)

1. Trevor Hoffman - 601
2. Mariano Rivera - 590
3. Lee Smith - 478
4. John Franco - 424
5. Billy Wagner - 422
6. Dennis Eckersley - 390
7. Jeff Reardon - 367
8. Troy Percival - 358
9. Randy Myers - 347
10. Rollie Fingers - 341
11. John Wetteland - 330
12. Roberto Hernandez - 326
13. Jose Mesa - 321
14. Todd Jones - 319
15. Rick Aguilera - 318
16. Robb Nen - 314
17. Francisco Cordero - 313
18. Tom Henke - 311
19. Rich Gossage - 310
20. Jeff Montgomery - 304
21. Doug Jones - 303
22T. Bruce Sutter - 300
22T. Jason Isringhausen - 300





P.S. Is there anyone who does NOT conflate Todd & Doug Jones?


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Frayed Knot wrote:
P.S. Is there anyone who does NOT conflate Todd & Doug Jones?

One was a fastballer and one was a changeup guy. But if you held a gun to my head, I couldn't tell you which was which.

My guess: Mesa.

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seawolf17 wrote:
Jeff Montgomery with the Royals.


Yes.
Montgomery was a 9th round pick by the Reds and appeared in 14 games for them in his first season (13 in relief) but never got a save.
He was then dealt to KC that off-season where he spent the remainder of his career, thus being the only one on this list aside from Rivera to get ALL of his career saves for one team.
Montgomery also played college ball with my cousin (cousin-in-law if you want to be technical).


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P.S. Is there anyone who does NOT conflate Todd & Doug Jones?

One was a fastballer and one was a changeup guy. But if you held a gun to my head, I couldn't tell you which was which.

My guess: Mesa.

Later


No.
'Joe Table' oddly didn't have any saves until he was 28 years old with Cleveland.
He then went from 2 to a league-leading 46 and was off and running.
But after his troubles in the 1997 post-season (ask Omar Vizquel about it, he'll tell you) his ERA blew up to 5+ the following year and Mesa was gone from the 'Mistake by the Lake' for good.
The rluality of his saves came for Philly but #300 for him was with Pittsburgh his fifth organization.


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Hoffman.


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Gwreck wrote:
I would've said Hoffman but I think he started his career in Florida, no?

Percival is my guess.


Troy Percival is the final answer.
Got his first 316 with the Angels before moving on to Detroit (8), Tampa (34) & StL (0)


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