IGT 6/9/2011 Mets @ Brewers Niese v. Gallardo

[ashie62]

Sorry to see Grimm not posting this but...Time to rebound..

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

You ask me whether I'd swap Niese for Gallardo straight up, and as much as I like-a the Hawkman, I'd do it (and not JUST to root for a guy named "Yovani Gallardo").

But you look at their stat lines on the year, and-- leaving aside pitching win-loss record-- they're surprisingly similar. (3.72 ERA/1.34 WHIP/2.23 K-to-BB ratio/12 HR allowed vs. 3.75 ERA/1.40 WHIP/2.19 K-to-BB/7 HR allowed). Basically, Gallardo gives up more HRs but strikes out more dudes/lets slightly-fewer guys on base... but, yeah, about the same level of effectiveness, from similar-styled pitchers. Of course, Gallardo hits like Carlos Zambrano, only with speed instead of crazy, so... still Yovani. But it's closer than you might think.

[Guest attgig]

I'm going to make the early prediction that niese throws the mets first no-hitter today. today is the day...

[TransMonk]

Now you've jinxed it. Getting to see a Metly no-no in person would be one of the highlights of my life.

I'll be happy if the Mets can just keep Prince from hitting a dinger.

[G-Fafif]

Everybody in the starting lineup, please step forward...

Not so fast there, Bay.

Jose Reyes, ss
Justin Turner, 3b
Carlos Beltran, rf
Daniel Murphy, 1b
Angel Pagan, cf
Jason Pridie, lf
Josh Thole, c
Ruben Tejada, 2b
Jon Niese, lhp

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

G-Fafif wrote: Everybody in the starting lineup, please step forward... Not so fast there, Bay. Jose Reyes, ss Justin Turner, 3b Carlos Beltran, rf Daniel Murphy, 1b Angel Pagan, cf Jason Pridie, lf Josh Thole, c Ruben Tejada, 2b Jon Niese, lhp

wOw

[Fman99]

Good. Every time Bay steps to the plate I get erect with rage.

[ashie62]

Lame looking lineup.

[Guest Edgy DC]

They had no business pitching to Tejada in that lame looking lineup with Niese on deckle.

Heck, sometimes I wonder why teams don't play four outfielders in that situation.

[ashie62]

So, next years IF could be Ike Davis, Ruben Tejada, Jose Reyes and David Wright. I like

[Guest Edgy DC]

Kicking Red to the curb. Ouch.

This team is triple awesome.

[ashie62]

If Reyes is not the current NL MVP, Fielder is.

[ashie62]

Edgy DC wrote: Kicking Red to the curb. Ouch. This team is triple awesome.

Still room for Red on the team. I can be Unitarian about it.

[ashie62]

Everybody hits...keep it coming. Bay? You keep watching what these guys do.

[ashie62]

Muffy, that was kinda funny, nice try.

[Frayed Knot]

Edgy DC wrote: They had no business pitching to Tejada in that lame looking lineup with Niese on deckle. Heck, sometimes I wonder why teams don't play four outfielders in that situation.

Really? I was thinking as they did that about how pissed I was when Jerry would (often) walk #8 hitters (early in the game especially) rather than try to set up the pitcher to lead off the following inning.
#1 pitcher going (had an off night but you didn't know that then) vs a 21 y/o #8 hitting middle infielder only in the lineup due to injuries? ... it didn't work out for the Brews but I would have done the same thing.



Meanwhile, that's the 2nd time in three days we've turned killer innings into only so-so ones -- 8th inning game 1 was the other.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Well, I don't mean to suggest that he should have been walked, but rather pitched around with the go-ahead run in scoring position.

Meanwhile, the Mets are up 11 baserunners to two, but only one Prince Fielder swat seperates them in the column that counts.

[Frayed Knot]

More or less the same thing.

I would have gone after him. The fact that he couldn't get him was probably the first clue that it wasn't Gallardo's night.

[ashie62]

Time to pad the lead.

[Frayed Knot]

I've seen much more blatant examples of obstruction not called than that one with Prince/Pagan. I didn't see how he obstructed him at all.
Not that it ultimately mattered.



The two-man wrecking crew up this inning.

[Fman99]

How has Fielder gotten anything to hit this year, what with the black hole of productivity that is Casey McGehee hitting behind him?

[Frayed Knot]

I dunno - but that was one helluva job by Niese right there.

[Fman99]

Agreed. Love watching Hawkman drop the hammer on these shitdicks.

[Fman99]

McGehee kicking the ball around like one of those Ecuador guys at Citi Field.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Niese at 84 pitches through seven. Can we do something radical and use the bullpen on an as-needed basis tonight?

[Guest themetfairy]

Frayed Knot wrote: I've seen much more blatant examples of obstruction not called than that one with Prince/Pagan. I didn't see how he obstructed him at all. Not that it ultimately mattered. The two-man wrecking crew up this inning.

D-Dad was adamant that the obstruction call was a good one. Obstruction does not require contact; it only requires that the fielder be in the way of the runner when the runner is trying to move forward.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Go-Go goes down for strikeout number eight.

Let's Niese them out here and get another run(s) and save-proof this thing.

[Ceetar]

Niese pacing 170 strikeouts. If you recall I predicted he has an outside shot at 200 if he were to improve tonight. (i.e. pitch like tonight more often)

I also asked you who would have more strikeouts, Niese or Wright. I think we've answered that one.

[Frayed Knot]

Gotta get Hart here.
Big boys up next.

[Guest metsguyinmichigan]

If I'm Neise, I make Terry pry me out of this game with a crowbar. Let's keep the pen out of it!