5/17/11 - Marlins at Mets

[Gwreck]

Our new-look lineup, weather permitting:

Reyes SS
Thole C
Beltran CF
Bay LF
Murphy 1B
Turner 3B
Pridie CF
Tejada 2B
Niese P

Chance of rain: 100%
Chance of rain-out: 75% or better

[Benjamin Grimm]

That lineup would look a bit better if Bay didn't suck.

[Guest sharpie]

I want there to be as many rainouts as possible while we have half of our lineup on the DL.

[Gwreck]

National Weather Service forecast:

Late Afternoon: Periods of rain and possibly a thunderstorm. Some of the storms could produce heavy rainfall. High near 60. East wind between 11 and 15 mph. Chance of precipitation is 90%. New rainfall amounts between a tenth and quarter of an inch, except higher amounts possible in thunderstorms.

Tonight: Periods of rain and possibly a thunderstorm. Some of the storms could produce heavy rainfall. Low around 55. East wind around 14 mph. Chance of precipitation is 90%. New rainfall amounts between 1 and 2 inches possible.

[Vic Sage]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: That lineup would look a bit better if Bay didn't suck.

how is this different from every lineup the Mets have put up since he signed?

[Benjamin Grimm]

Maybe I should have worded it, "This more-pathetic-than-usual lineup would be less pathetic if Bay didn't suck."

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

I'm about out of patience with Bay's suck. I don't know if the Mets have ever gotten a worse deal.

[Ceetar]

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: I'm about out of patience with Bay's suck. I don't know if the Mets have ever gotten a worse deal.

I've given him through the Yankees series. he'll top 100 AB, hit in a crazy easy to hit in park, etc.

[metirish]

Ceetar wrote: I'm about out of patience with Bay's suck. I don't know if the Mets have ever gotten a worse deal. I've given him through the Yankees series. he'll top 100 AB, hit in a crazy easy to hit in park, etc.

I was thinking today about this deal and where it ranks , he's just bloody terrible...he's not even hitting hard outs. Saw this today , not sure if it means a whole lot but it's pretty much what I see when he plays.

Inside Edge, a private scouting company, keeps a statistic called well-hit average. It measures the percentage of a hitter's at-bats that end with what a scout classifies as a well-hit ball. Through 61 at-bats, Bay has a relatively anemic well-hit average of .098. Among Mets hitters, only weak-hitting utility infielder Chin-lung Hu has a lower mark (.056).

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703730804576317632319812552.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

[G-Fafif]

Laid down a helluva sacrifice bunt last night.

[Ceetar]

he actually is getting some hard hit outs lately. I've seen two balls hit 380+ feet in the last couple of days. I'm hoping that's a good sign.

[metirish]

Ceetar wrote: he actually is getting some hard hit outs lately. I've seen two balls hit 380+ feet in the last couple of days. I'm hoping that's a good sign.

no doubt there have been some and honestly they feel like a tease, I laugh when Keith or Gary will mention how those are good signs , he's coming around yyybbb

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Yeah whatever. Put your fucking bat on the ball when Reyes is on 3rd.

[metirish]

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Yeah whatever. Put your fucking bat on the ball when Reyes is on 3rd.

I'd love it if Keith said that shit right there.

[Benjamin Grimm]

I'd love it if he said it right HERE!

Wouldn't it be a panic to have Keith in the pool?

[G-Fafif]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: I'd love it if he said it right HERE! Wouldn't it be a panic to have Keith in the pool?

If a Met joined CPF and reached his own status, I assume the software would melt down.

[Gwreck]

Opponents:

Chris Coghlan CF
Hanley Ramirez SS
Logan Morrison LF
Gaby Sanchez 1B
Mike Stanton RF
John Buck C
Wes Helms 3B
Omar Infante 2B
Ricky Nolasco P

[Guest Edgy DC]

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: I'm about out of patience with Bay's suck. I don't know if the Mets have ever gotten a worse deal.

"Hi, I'm Mo."

"And I'm Roberto."

"Won't you join us and our friend Jeromy starring in the brand new comedy..."

(together) "...Off the Hook!"

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

All 3 of those guys were acquired bad contracts, which in a way makes them worse but also, they came with some known questions (Burnitz and Mo at least).

[Guest Edgy DC]

"Hi, I'm Roger Cede�o. I was in that movie too!"

[Chad ochoseis]

Edgy DC wrote: John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: I'm about out of patience with Bay's suck. I don't know if the Mets have ever gotten a worse deal. "Hi, I'm Mo." "And I'm Roberto." "Won't you join us and our friend Jeromy starring in the brand new comedy..." (together) "...Off the Hook!"

Castillo & Perez gave it two thumbs up.

[bmfc1]

The weather does not permit. No game today.

[Gwreck]

Game will be made up on Monday, July 18 (a mutual off day).

[metirish]

Collins plan to have the rest of the team pick things up " starting right now" is thwarted by the weather.

[Vic Sage]

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: I'm about out of patience with Bay's suck. I don't know if the Mets have ever gotten a worse deal.

So far in his Mets career, Bay has accumulated about 1.7 WAR over 491 PAs, at a cost of around $13m to date.
Which is about $7.65m (and 289 PAs) per point of WAR.

For comparison, Jeromy Burnitz delivered 2.4 WAR over 1283 PAs, for $19.5m. That's about $8.13M (and 535 PAs) per WAR point. So Bay has been better than Burnitz... but not by very much.

It would be interesting to see this kind of breakdown on all mets FAs over time, especially broken down by the GMs that made the deals.

[ashie62]

Edgy DC wrote: "Hi, I'm Roger Cede�o. I was in that movie too!"

With cameos by Bobby Bonilla & Bret Saberhagen.

[smg58]

Look at it this way. At least we're not giving Bay the equivalent of a $1M per year lifetime pension.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Yeah I'd consider Cedeno about as bad a deal as the Mets ever issued for a position player, just off the top of my head. But Bay could really give that one a run.

The good news for Bay is that there's still time to make an improvement but just the fact that it's already on the table for discussion of the worst Met deal ever can't be encouraging. I'm sure he only gets more expensive as time goes on too.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

PS, not raining here and hasn't for hours.

[Frayed Knot]

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: I'm sure he only gets more expensive as time goes on too.

2010 = $14 mil ($8.5 signing bonus + $6.5 salary)
2011 = $16 mil
2012 = $16 mil
2013 = $16 mil
2014 = $17 mil/$3 buyout