Giants @ Mets iGt 5/3/11

[Ceetar]

Because Mets fans would rather discuss who to trade their best players to then root for them to succeed.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Ashie62 wrote: Cause it ain't Shea? I haven't heard a good "Lets Go Mets" chant since Citifield opened.

I'd like them to test Ashie's theory. Knock down Citi Field and rebuild Shea.

[G-Fafif]

It was reasonably raucous (or at least noisy) early with Beltran's homer and Ike's homer and Jose being Jose, but it just kind of deflated. Thole's 1-2-3 grounder certainly didn't help.

Success equaling enthusiasm, perhaps.

[HahnSolo]

Benjamin Grimm wrote: Ashie62 wrote: Cause it ain't Shea? I haven't heard a good "Lets Go Mets" chant since Citifield opened. I'd like them to test Ashie's theory. Knock down Citi Field and rebuild Shea.

Count me among those who hate the ridiculous "hooo" that the latest generation of Mets fans have added to the "Let's Go Mets" chant.

[bmfc1]

HahnSolo wrote: Count me among those who hate the ridiculous "hooo" that the latest generation of Mets fans have added to the "Let's Go Mets" chant.

That's different than the ridiculous Hu that's on the Mets bench.

[G-Fafif]

bmfc1 wrote: HahnSolo wrote: Count me among those who hate the ridiculous "hooo" that the latest generation of Mets fans have added to the "Let's Go Mets" chant. That's different than the ridiculous Hu that's on the Mets bench.

What's Mandarin for ZING?

[Ceetar]

G-Fafif wrote: bmfc1 wrote: HahnSolo wrote: Count me among those who hate the ridiculous "hooo" that the latest generation of Mets fans have added to the "Let's Go Mets" chant. That's different than the ridiculous Hu that's on the Mets bench. What's Mandarin for ZING?

? or Ch�ng phoentically according to google.

[G-Fafif]

The Bay-bee is born, sez Rubin:

Garrett David Bay (6 pounds, 3 ounces) was born last night to Jason and Kristen Bay.

Enough Duda. Bring back Dada.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

So when I scream, "G D BAY" three or four times a game this weekend, it could be taken as sort of a tribute?

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Garrett David. Destined to be a Mets third baseman.

[batmagadanleadoff]

And here's what I'm sure will be an unpopular opinion but I'm going to say it anyway (because 'controversy' is my middle name): Where does Jason Bay get off going on 4 days of Paternity Leave? Fucker's only been with the team for 10 days. He missed a million games last year and sucked in the one's he didn't. I would think he'd want to prove his worth / make up for lost time / earn his salary. It's not like it's his first kid and the wife needs him there to help out with the other two. This is his third kid, you want to be there for the birth - fine, but speaking from experience it's a lot less wonderment and a lot more disgusting smells. Whatever, to each his own. And whichever side you're on, it doesn't take an entire three game series (plus - ahem - an off day on Monday) to pop out a kid.

Consider this: What would you think of Bay's paternity leave if it occurred during the last two weeks of the season and the Mets were in contention?

[G-Fafif]

Consider this: What would you think of Bay's paternity leave if it occurred during the last two weeks of the season and the Mets were in contention?

Precedent! From just that scenario, mid-September 2008.

ST. PETERSBURG -- While the Red Sox are in a heated race with the Tampa Bay Rays for first place in the American League East, Boston outfielder Jason Bay won an entirely different kind of race on Tuesday. He rushed out of Florida swiftly enough to make it back to Boston in time for the birth of his second child. Bay's wife, Kristen, delivered Evelyn Jane at roughly 6:45 ET on Tuesday night. Bay arrived roughly 45 minutes before the birth. Bay will likely rejoin the Red Sox on Friday in Toronto, where they open a three-game series against the Blue Jays. It doesn't seem to make sense for Bay to fly all the way back to St. Petersburg for the finale in this three-game series against the Rays, which will take place on Wednesday night. Red Sox manager Terry Francona had talked at length with Bay over the past few days, and there was some hope that Kristen could perhaps be induced on Thursday, when the Red Sox have an off-day before their weekend series in Toronto. But it was not to be. "She just wouldn't cooperate," quipped Francona before Tuesday's game. "That baby is coming pretty soon." Without Bay, the Red Sox went with an alignment of Jacoby Ellsbury in left, Coco Crisp in center and Mark Kotsay in right. Kotsay hit sixth, which is where Bay has been making the bulk of his starts of late.

[G-Fafif]

You can tell from this what Skip thinks of paternity leave for ballplayers.

Terry Collins recalls a time when players didn't take leaves of absence for the birth of their children. "Nobody left," the Mets manager said. "Nobody went to weddings -- if their uncle was getting married, nobody went. You played, because the season was six months long or five months long and you stayed. But the game has changed."

Man, you can hear him spitting tobacco all over somebody's bassinet while he's answering.

"I'm sure the wives are happier," Collins said.

Translation:

My fucking left fielder wasn't here when we had to face Lincecum because his wife was having a what? What kind of fucking world do we live in?

BTW, the kid was born in Greenwich. Too bad Tom Seaver doesn't live up there anymore. He might have bumped into Bay and set him straight.

"Tom, my wife just gave birth! Our third child!"
"Why aren't you at the ballpark?"
"Didn't you hear me? A baby boy!"
"You have Lincecum tonight. What the fuck are you doing here? Capuano's gonna need every run he can get."

At which point Tom would have spit tobacco all over somebody's bassinet.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Wait a minute? Greenwich? That's a commute! I thought he was in Colorado Springs or someplace ballplayers' families live.

[soupcan]

The whole thing is bullshit.

Again, there are the same five to six months every year that a professional baseball player knows that he's committed to being with his team almost every day. It's really not that hard to look at a calendar and do some basic math when planning your family if that's your occupation.

Also - FOUR days for paternity leave? Really? These guys make a minimum of what -$450,0000.00? They can all afford a baby nurse or nanny to help out mom for the duration. Daddy is not needed at home. If the guy wants to be there for the actual birth then, you know, whatever. But after you've had your first child and you see exactly what the entails, I'm not sure you A) really need to see it again or really want to. Again though, to each his own and I won't begrudge that (but still -as a ballplayer there are 3-4-5 months where you've got nothing but time, you know?).

Bay in particular - making a bazillion dollars, lousy year last year, missed 40% of his team's games, team is struggling without him this year and he is only just back, lives 30 minutes from the stadium. That's 30 minutes. That means he could be home pretty fucking fast should the wife go into labor or need him for anything else. Yes, MLB says he is entitled to it and it's his right to take it but really Jason, do you really think you needed to?

The two games he missed against SF were very winnable. A single at-bat from Bay could have turned either or both games. Bad decisions Jason, sorry.

[G-Fafif]

Jason says Stay Classy, CBA!

�I think it�s classy to afford the team the luxury,� Bay said, �and make it so the player doesn�t have to worry about leaving someone shorthanded.�

[soupcan]

Right, because Lucas Duda is the exact same player as Jason Bay.

Gimme a break.

[Guest Edgy DC]

You know, the new park is supposed to have everything. How about a birthing center under the bleachers?

With a few customizations, I'm sure K-Rod's cell can serve double duty.

[MFS62]

If he didn't have to breast feed the baby, he didn't need to take all that time.

Its like vacation days at work. If you have then , you might as well use them.

Later

[G-Fafif]

At the very least he could have stood in his plush back yard and telecommuted.

[Ceetar]

G-Fafif wrote: At the very least he could have stood in his plush back yard and telecommuted.

Or knocked up one of the Giants wives at the same time to make it fair..

[G-Fafif]

Knocking out one of the Giants pitchers would have sufficed.

[batmagadanleadoff]

Consider this: What would you think of Bay's paternity leave if it occurred during the last two weeks of the season and the Mets were in contention? Precedent! From just that scenario, mid-September 2008. ST. PETERSBURG -- While the Red Sox are in a heated race with the Tampa Bay Rays for first place in the American League East, Boston outfielder Jason Bay won an entirely different kind of race on Tuesday. He rushed out of Florida swiftly enough to make it back to Boston in time for the birth of his second child. Bay's wife, Kristen, delivered Evelyn Jane at roughly 6:45 ET on Tuesday night. Bay arrived roughly 45 minutes before the birth. Bay will likely rejoin the Red Sox on Friday in Toronto, where they open a three-game series against the Blue Jays. It doesn't seem to make sense for Bay to fly all the way back to St. Petersburg for the finale in this three-game series against the Rays, which will take place on Wednesday night. Red Sox manager Terry Francona had talked at length with Bay over the past few days, and there was some hope that Kristen could perhaps be induced on Thursday, when the Red Sox have an off-day before their weekend series in Toronto. But it was not to be. "She just wouldn't cooperate," quipped Francona before Tuesday's game. "That baby is coming pretty soon." Without Bay, the Red Sox went with an alignment of Jacoby Ellsbury in left, Coco Crisp in center and Mark Kotsay in right. Kotsay hit sixth, which is where Bay has been making the bulk of his starts of late.

I was gonna spring that after any comments responding to my "Consider this" post. You went straight for the punch line.

[batmagadanleadoff]

yeah the hats look stupider than the Mets themselves tonight.

Great snark from Uni Watch:

So that�s the cap that the Mets wore last night. And you�ve gotta hand it to them: This is definitely the thing to wear if you want to look like you just got off the plane from Kansas and went cap-shopping in Times Square. Sigh.