Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted November 12, 2010 Posted November 12, 2010 We don't know if these guys really are the front-runners, but if they are (as Adam Rubin is reporting), which one would you prefer?
Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Guests Posted November 12, 2010 Posted November 12, 2010 Melvin, but I'm tepid on all of them, really. Hurdle seems okay, but I'm pretty sure I'd have to reuse a few of my Jerry-era "happy place" mantras, owing to all the bunting (his teams led or were close to leading the NL in sacs for his entire tenure as Rockies jefe).[sIDE NOTE: The more I read about DeMarlo Hale, the more I like about DeMarlo Hale. Tons of experience managing in the upper-level minors/coaching at the major-league level, seems open-minded about advanced stats, has been quoted in a few places as emphasizing stolen-base percentage over plain ol' green-lights.]
TransMonk Old-Timey Member Posted November 12, 2010 Posted November 12, 2010 Hurdle. Though they all seem like used up ass-bags to me.
Zvon Old-Timey Member Posted November 12, 2010 Posted November 12, 2010 Melvin. He just seems to me to be more of a Sandy man.
Ceetar Grand Central Contributor Posted November 12, 2010 Posted November 12, 2010 Zvon wrote:Melvin. He just seems to me to be more of a Sandy man.The Sandy Man Can!
G-Fafif Old-Timey Member Posted November 12, 2010 Posted November 12, 2010 TransMonk wrote:Hurdle. Though they all seem like used up ass-bags to me.Monk expresses my thoughts as if setting them to music.
soupcan Old-Timey Member Posted November 12, 2010 Posted November 12, 2010 Collins only because I've read a bit more about him but honestly I'm with everybody else - 6 of one, half dozen of the other at this point.
MFS62 Old-Timey Member Posted November 12, 2010 Posted November 12, 2010 Ceetar wrote: Melvin. He just seems to me to be more of a Sandy man.The Sandy Man Can!Ceetar, you asked for it:Who can change a roster, along with his new crewGet some good new players, maybe get rid of one or twoThe Sandy Man, oh the Sandy Man canThe Sandy Man can 'cause he�ll make the needed deals to make the team play goodWho can take a roster, make some dealings slyMake the Mets so good it makes Yankee rooters cryThe Sandy Man, the Sandy Man canThe Sandy Man can 'cause he�ll make the needed deals to make the team play goodThe Sandy Man makes every step he takes planned out and judiciousNow you talk about your Mets-based wishes, high OPS and fewer swishesOh, who can start tomorrow, fulfill our every dreamPut behind the sorrows and improve our fav�rite teamThe Sandy Man, oh the Sandy Man canThe Sandy Man can 'cause he�ll make the needed deals to make the team play goodThe Sandy Man makes every step he takes planned out and judiciousNow you talk about your Mets-based wishes, high OPS and fewer swishesYeah, yeah, yeahWho can start tomorrow, his new front office teamPut behind the sorrows and improve our fav�rite teamThe Sandy Man, oh the Sandy Man canThe Sandy Man can 'cause he�ll make the needed deals to make the team play goodThe Sandy Man can 'cause he�ll make the needed deals to make the team play goodLater
dgwphotography Old-Timey Member Posted November 13, 2010 Posted November 13, 2010 MFS62 wrote: Melvin. He just seems to me to be more of a Sandy man.The Sandy Man Can!Ceetar, you asked for it:Who can change a roster, along with his new crewGet some good new players, maybe get rid of one or twoThe Sandy Man, oh the Sandy Man canThe Sandy Man can 'cause he�ll make the needed deals to make the team play goodWho can take a roster, make some dealings slyMake the Mets so good it makes Yankee rooters cryThe Sandy Man, the Sandy Man canThe Sandy Man can 'cause he�ll make the needed deals to make the team play goodThe Sandy Man makes every step he takes planned out and judiciousNow you talk about your Mets-based wishes, high OPS and fewer swishesOh, who can start tomorrow, fulfill our every dreamPut behind the sorrows and improve our fav�rite teamThe Sandy Man, oh the Sandy Man canThe Sandy Man can 'cause he�ll make the needed deals to make the team play goodThe Sandy Man makes every step he takes planned out and judiciousNow you talk about your Mets-based wishes, high OPS and fewer swishesYeah, yeah, yeahWho can start tomorrow, his new front office teamPut behind the sorrows and improve our fav�rite teamThe Sandy Man, oh the Sandy Man canThe Sandy Man can 'cause he�ll make the needed deals to make the team play goodThe Sandy Man can 'cause he�ll make the needed deals to make the team play goodLaterThis is just brilliant. There are no other words...
MFS62 Old-Timey Member Posted November 16, 2010 Posted November 16, 2010 Now that they're supposedly down to the "final two", why were they going to interview Jose Oqendo? Is it because neither of those two really excited them that much?Later
Guest Edgy DC Guests Posted November 16, 2010 Posted November 16, 2010 Because maybe they weren't down to the final two. If another opportunity opened up, it seems perfectly reasonable to explore it.
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted November 16, 2010 Author Posted November 16, 2010 Yeah, the "two finalists" thing is speculation from Mets beat writers and bloggers. The Mets never made any such statement.It all seems to be based on Sandy's statement that he values prior big league experience. In his interview with Kevin Burkhardt, in which he made that statement, he made it clear that that wasn't an absolute requirement. But it's being interpreted as if it was.
HahnSolo Old-Timey Member Posted November 16, 2010 Posted November 16, 2010 Edgy DC wrote:Because maybe they weren't down to the final two. This. With a new regime in place, I'm really not sure how much the sources for all the local scribes really know.
MFS62 Old-Timey Member Posted November 16, 2010 Posted November 16, 2010 Here's a reporter who doesn't know anything except Mets-bashing, our old friend Madden:http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/mets/2010/11/13/2010-11-13_new_mets_gm_sandy_alderson_should_be_leery_of_hiring_a_recycled_manager_to_take_.htmlIf you hire an "experienced" manager, it means he has managed someplace else and probably has been fired by that team.But you just know that if the Mets hired someone who had never managed in the bigs before, (i.e.- never fired) you know he'd be jumping all over them for trusting a big market team to someone with no experience.Later
Benjamin Grimm Old-Timey Member Posted November 16, 2010 Author Posted November 16, 2010 On Mets Hot Stove, Kevin Burkhardt pointed out that Dallas Green, Art Howe, and Jeff Torborg all joined the Mets as experienced big league managers, and Davey Johnson didn't.
Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket Guests Posted November 16, 2010 Posted November 16, 2010 Madden was advocating Mazzilli initially. He certainly lost the team in a small market.
Guest Edgy DC Guests Posted November 16, 2010 Posted November 16, 2010 Benjamin Grimm wrote:On Mets Hot Stove, Kevin Burkhardt pointed out that Dallas Green, Art Howe, and Jeff Torborg all joined the Mets as experienced big league managers, and Davey Johnson didn't.Davey Johnson gets a lot of work as a sample size of one. Randolph and Harrelson and Torre and Frazier and Westrum were also blessedly free of the burden of experience.
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