If Misches were wishes ... NYM@HOU IGT 8/19/10

[Zvon]

At least they didn't get swept in a doubleheader.[/quote:p4dbykwo]
There is that.

[ashie62]

wtf? How could you not get me 2 runs Mets?
Im Buckethead, dammit![/quote:1kotfava]

I'm Gumby dammit!

[batmagadanleadoff]

At least they didn't get swept in a doubleheader.[/quote:35s7cokr]
There is that.[/quote:35s7cokr]

And they won't lose two tomorrow, either. I didn't watch (or listen) to tonight's game. In protest. I saw Frenchy the **********'s name in the lineup and purposely boycotted the product. What a fiasco. I mean ... are they auditioning him for next season? Did they throw in the towel? Or what? And he comes up with second and third and sure enough, grounds out.

[batmagadanleadoff]

At least they didn't get swept in a doubleheader.[/quote:100fo037]
There is that.[/quote:100fo037]

And they won't lose two tomorrow, either. I didn't watch (or listen) to tonight's game. In protest. I saw Frenchy the **********'s name in the lineup and purposely boycotted the product. What a fiasco. I mean ... are they auditioning him for next season? Did they throw in the towel? Or what? And he comes up with second and third and sure enough, grounds out.[/quote:100fo037]


And there's Jerry on the post-game right now .... wondering why his team can't score any runs.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

TV's off (on baby duty).

Is he chuckling as he wonders?

[batmagadanleadoff]

Will the sun rise tomorrow?

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

"I like the way... the way you turned that, there! Heh!"

[Guest Edgy DC]

They'll be hitting well next week, it's true. Too late to join a race, more than likely, but they will be.

They'll probably even be hitting if Jerry continues to start a bunch of lost causes. And we'll be saying, "Where was this when we needed it?"

But the Jerry Watch is the real drama in the season for me right now. I don't know why as absolutely nothing seems to be bubbling up on that front.

[Ceetar]

They'll be hitting well next week, it's true. Too late to join a race, more than likely, but they will be.

They'll probably even be hitting if Jerry continues to start a bunch of lost causes. And we'll be saying, "Where was this when we needed it?"

But the Jerry Watch is the real drama in the season for me right now. I don't know why as absolutely nothing seems to be bubbling up on that front.[/quote:2sq4php0]


I kind of want David Wright to walk into one of the post game conferences, shove Jerry out of the way, and declare himself Player-Manager for the rest of the season.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Jerry was pretty rough in his postgame comments, according to my Snooze recap. He called it "pathetic," and came off as frustrated with the team dynamic. He along with unnamed "veterans" on the team (although you can guess) didn't take to the whole "youth movement" thing very well (losing Cora, getting Tejada and Martinez, etc etc) according to Martino's recap.

Howard Johnson in a Modern Classic of faint praise assessed Fartinez thusly: "I see him as a guy who is going to hit 15 home runs."

In a season or a career, Howard? He didn't say.

Meantime I'm dumbstruck at how everyone is walking around with the idea that offensive struggles are some kind of gigantic mystery.

[metirish]

I thought Hojo was a bit pathetic in his comments , sounded like Fran Healy.

"The big thing is trying to get him to get a feel for when the pitchers change looks on him. Being able to make the adjustment to when they take speed off pitches in the strike zone," Johnson said. "That takes time." The biggest thing he has going for him is a really quick bat," he said. "He's got quick hands, and it's one of those things where he's just got to learn major league pitching. They're kind of playing around on him. He's just got to get the feel of guys changing speeds in the strike zone. I see him as a guy who is going to hit 15 home runs."

F-Mart needs to learn major league pitching in AAA...it's all about chanfidence

[Ceetar]

I thought Hojo was a bit pathetic in his comments , sounded like Fran Healy.

"The big thing is trying to get him to get a feel for when the pitchers change looks on him. Being able to make the adjustment to when they take speed off pitches in the strike zone," Johnson said. "That takes time." The biggest thing he has going for him is a really quick bat," he said. "He's got quick hands, and it's one of those things where he's just got to learn major league pitching. They're kind of playing around on him. He's just got to get the feel of guys changing speeds in the strike zone. I see him as a guy who is going to hit 15 home runs."

F-Mart needs to learn major league pitching in AAA...it's all about chanfidence

[bmfc1]

I concur with Ceetar. I don't think much of F. Martinez, and I've gotten into it with some of you about that, but... at this point in the season, he should be playing everyday for the Mets so they can see if he's any good in the major leagues. We won't know that while he's in Buffalo because, try and follow this Jeff W. and Omar, that's not the major leagues. Francoeur won't be on the 2011 Mets so there is no point in playing him any longer. Same with Castillo and Barajas/Blanco, too.

Right now, the '11 Mets OF will be Bay/Beltran/Pagan. But what if the next GM (he said hopefully) is offered something good for Beltran or Pagan. Can F. Martinez be an everyday player on the major league level? I haven't seen anything to tell me that the answer is "yes" but we won't learn anything about him while he's in the minors.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Francoeur out but Martinez in. Got it, but should Carter be getting PT?

Because if you're all about playing for next year, Carter's the one who is out of options.

[Ceetar]

Francoeur out but Martinez in. Got it, but should Carter be getting PT?

Because if you're all about playing for next year, Carter's the one who is out of options.[/quote:5njk9dhc]


That depends on what we think Carter's value is. I'm not sure he should be on the team next year either.

[bmfc1]

That's a good point about Carter. I didn't realize that he's out of options. Given that the Mets traded Wagner for him and another guy, and also saved a few million, instead of keeping Wagner and then taking the draft picks as compensation, they should see what he's got, too.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Francoeur out but Martinez in. Got it, but should Carter be getting PT?

Because if you're all about playing for next year, Carter's the one who is out of options.[/quote:26sy72qz]
That depends on what we think Carter's value is. I'm not sure he should be on the team next year either.[/quote:26sy72qz]
Well, if one was sure and certain either way it wouldn't matter what kind of playing time he got. It's that uncertainty that would seemingly demand more PT for him.

[MFS62]

Will the sun rise tomorrow?[/quote:3tcllhvi]
By now, Annie would have punched Jerry in the mouth.

Later