IGT--Reds @ Mets, 07/07/10

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METS:
Reyes-SS
Pagan-CF
Wright-3B
Davis-1B
Bay-LF
Thole-C
Feliciano-RF
Cora-2B
Niese-LHP

=#FF0000]Reds:
Phillips 4
Cabrera 6
Votto 3
Rolen 5
Gomes 7
Heisey 9
Stubbs 8
Miller 2
Arroyo RHP

[Ceetar]

certainly seems that Jerry's preparing Frenchy for a platoon lately.

[TransMonk]

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

[Ceetar]

Not that there's anything wrong with that.[/quote:kicqiqsh]


Agreed, but I was worried Manuel didn't realize how bad Frenchy is. I'm sure I'll still get annoyed that he plays too much and Pagan not enough, but we'll see.

[Guest Edgy DC]

He sure rides his front-line players hard, though, don't he? I mean, it's 100 degrees out there.

[bmfc1]

Ask Ralph Kiner if they should get a day-off. They can sleep late tomorrow.

[Ceetar]

He sure rides his front-line players hard, though, don't he? I mean, it's 100 degrees out there.[/quote:2gvd0pid]

At least he's not catching Barajas again. Wright doesn't do days off, doesn't seem like Bay does either. Davis is from Arizona. he laughs in the face of blazing heat.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Two things I wonder about Josh Thole:

1. Is he about to be traded for a starting pitcher?
2. Is he about to claim the Mets starting catcher job?

[metirish]

He sure rides his front-line players hard, though, don't he? I mean, it's 100 degrees out there.[/quote:mecdr9ah]



Hey Keith, how hot was it again in St. Louis , down on the field with the artificial turf?

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

Two things I wonder about Josh Thole:

1. Is he about to be traded for a starting pitcher?
2. Is he about to claim the Mets starting catcher job?[/quote:ah72a4zf]

Sure seems like one of the two, doesn't it? (I would modify "2" to read "largest chunk of a timeshare down the stretch.")

[metirish]

I'd say one was more likely than two , he hasn't really played enough to claim a starting job has he?, of course that might need to change to get #1 going.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Two things I wonder about Josh Thole: 1. Is he about to be traded for a starting pitcher? 2. Is he about to claim the Mets starting catcher job?

Nice hitter innit he? I mean, what little we've seen.

I think the Mets are way too in love with the veteran-ness and defensive reputation of the Barajas/Blanco platoon to break it up so I think Thole's best shot this year is to force the issue of being a LH bat, like he's been doing, but he's still up against it. I'd be surprised if he's still in the org in three weeks.

I dunno if you saw it but Jerry criticized Jauss for allowing Thole to PH vs. a lefty the other night after Jerry's ejection, that may give you an idea of where the org is on him.

[Guest Edgy DC]

I criticized Jauss also, for what it's worth.

[Ceetar]

I dunno if you saw it but Jerry criticized Jauss for allowing Thole to PH vs. a lefty the other night after Jerry's ejection, that may give you an idea of where the org is on him.[/quote:65fv0jii]

seriously? That confuses me actually. I was at the game and was surprised to see Thole against the lefty (because i assumed Jerry was still calling the shots anyway). I did realize that Tatis is on the DL and they don't have a lot of righty's on the bench. (Frenchy to assume this role I assume) but could've used Blanco in that situation..unless Jerry was serious about the whole "Blanco is the backup CI" thing..which actually casts a rather pale light on Carter.

[metirish]

What surprised me in reading that was that Manuel even though he was kicked out was still not manageing the game, I assumed that was what happened. Booby V used to right?

[bmfc1]

Wondering: can a team afford a catcher w/no power (minor league high: 5)?

[Ceetar]

Wondering: can a team afford a catcher w/no power (minor league high: 5)?[/quote:2rkbbfeu]

He could develop some maybe. If he's going to put up a higher average than most catchers, maybe you live with a couple less dingers, but while Thole does look like he might be a quality hitter, he also doesn't look like anything irreplaceable.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Power is like any other skill. A defecit in one department can be cancelled by a surfeit in another. And just playing catcher goes a long ways toward that cancellation.

[Benjamin Grimm]

Paul LoDuca wasn't much of a power hitter, and the Mets won a division with him.

Neither was Jerry Grote, but that was a whole different era.

[Gwreck]

He sure rides his front-line players hard, though, don't he? I mean, it's 100 degrees out there.[/quote:3l77h336]

The off-day tomorrow isn't enough?

[Guest Edgy DC]

I mean more generally, but no.

[Frayed Knot]

ESPN game tonight for the out-of-towners with the added bonus of Bobby V at the mike ... along with Chris Berman and Joe Morgan - you can't have everything you know

[Frayed Knot]

Wondering: can a team afford a catcher w/no power (minor league high: 5)?[/quote:1z5ennxu]

The problem with Thole is that his offensive worth is pretty much tied up in BA as he has little power and doesn't walk a ton.
And the problem with that is BA tends to fluctuate more than most stats and Mets fans shouldn't count on him being the .300+ hit machine they saw last year in AAA and briefly w/the big club. That doesn't mean he's the .200 hitter he started out this year as either but the truth probably lies somewhere in between.
Combine all that with the fact that he's probably never going to make a team on defensive rep alone and I think he may just be a back-up/fill-in/platoon guy much of his career.

[Zvon]

He sure rides his front-line players hard, though, don't he? I mean, it's 100 degrees out there.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

Is there any chance we skip the anthem tonight, and

on the Citifield video screen? (H/T, Ted Berg.)

[Zvon]

BOBBY V FOR PRESIDENT, MAAAAAN!

[ashie62]

LETS!

[ashie62]

BOBBY V FOR PRESIDENT, MAAAAAN![/quote:c2c8db9x]

Bobby Vinton?

[Zvon]

GO[/bigpurple]

[Zvon]