Wright just 20,000 votes behind Polanco for All-Star nod

[Guest metsguyinmichigan]

It's bad enough that he's being beat by a Phillie, but an undeserving Phillie at that! Cast those ballots! We need to win this game for a change.

[G-Fafif]

I got caught up in Wright Fever and cast several ballots moments ago.

I certainly hope whichever non-MFYs I all but randomly chose on the A.L. side appreciate my support as well.

[Ceetar]

I'll cast another 25 or 50 for Wright (and Pagan and Reyes) when I get home from work. Not that it _really_ matters because Wright will make the team anyway, but he should start.

Did you know that you can vote for the home run derby too? And that Wright's on the list. (I don't buy into the ruined swing thing) Are they obligated to do so if they win the vote? Did they okay it before hand?

[Guest Edgy DC]

He deserves to start over Polanco, certainly, but Rolen and Zimmerman are also in that mix.

[Guest metsguyinmichigan]

Edgy DC wrote: He deserves to start over Polanco, certainly, but Rolen and Zimmerman are also in that mix.

What? Are you kidding me? There is no "mix." There is "Met" and "people who don't deserve to start."

I'm in here cutting deals with Tigers fans to get them to vote for Wright in exchange for players who will happy to get three days the hell out of Detroit -- Cabraera, for one -- and you're even considering other players?

[Guest Edgy DC]

I'll be honest. I'm not voting at all. The voting system is just such a thorough insult to my sensibilities, it's just too depressing to validate it with my participation.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

metsguyinmichigan wrote: I'm in here cutting deals with Tigers fans to get them to vote for Wright in exchange for players who will happy to get three days the hell out of Detroit -- Cabraera, for one -- and you're even considering other players?

Somehow, this is a lot less unseemly when it's done on an individual basis than it is when team marketing departments form unholy allegiances.

[G-Fafif]

Edgy DC wrote: I'll be honest. I'm not voting at all. The voting system is just such a thorough insult to my sensibilities, it's just too depressing to validate it with my participation.

That attitude is why God singled out your Magic Is Back posters for water damage.

[Guest metsguyinmichigan]

Edgy DC wrote: I'll be honest. I'm not voting at all. The voting system is just such a thorough insult to my sensibilities, it's just too depressing to validate it with my participation.

Hmmmm. Can I borrow your e-mail address.....

[Fman99]

I vote once and that's it. I like to have my input but I'm not going to try and "beat the system."

[G-Fafif]

metsguyinmichigan wrote: Edgy DC wrote: I'll be honest. I'm not voting at all. The voting system is just such a thorough insult to my sensibilities, it's just too depressing to validate it with my participation. Hmmmm. Can I borrow your e-mail address.....

Sounds like you've been covering politics lately.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

I vote once and that's it. I like to have my input but I'm not going to try and "beat the system."

Point of clarification: 25 votes per human-established e-mail address is the system.

I'm doing nothing against the rules here except for employer-time-theft, stealing wireless internet access at home, and the occasional baby-napping-and-sale.

[Centerfield]

Edgy DC wrote: I'll be honest. I'm not voting at all. The voting system is just such a thorough insult to my sensibilities, it's just too depressing to validate it with my participation.

Really? How so?

[Guest Edgy DC]

How is it an insult?

[Centerfield]

Yes, just curious what aspect of it bothers you.

[Guest Edgy DC]

All of it. Rewarding ballot stuffing. Encouraging ballot stuffing. Voting from multiple e-mail addresses, so you can look at more ads.

One person, one ballot is a nice way to get a fair and just outcome. One ticket, one ballot is perhaps a more workable way.

The voting franchise, like other commodities, is cheapened when the market becomes flooded.

[Guest metsguyinmichigan]

Edgy DC wrote: All of it. Rewarding ballot stuffing. Encouraging ballot stuffing. Voting from multiple e-mail addresses, so you can look at more ads. One person, one ballot is a nice way to get a fair and just outcome. One ticket, one ballot is perhaps a more workable way. The voting franchise, like other commodities, is cheapened when the market becomes flooded.

One ticket, one ballot = Yankee punks getting elected.

That gives an unfair advantage to A) people who can afford to go to games, teams that draw better than others.

Not saying the whole thing isn't flawed. But it seems to be better than others. Watching Placido Polanco walk out there to start the game would only make it more flawed. (Then again, watching Derek F. Jeter wave at balls hit to either side of him makes it less flawed.)

[Centerfield]

Edgy DC wrote: All of it. Rewarding ballot stuffing. Encouraging ballot stuffing. Voting from multiple e-mail addresses, so you can look at more ads. One person, one ballot is a nice way to get a fair and just outcome. One ticket, one ballot is perhaps a more workable way. The voting franchise, like other commodities, is cheapened when the market becomes flooded.

Good points. I was always struck by the "vote up to 25 times" rule.

With the internet, it's hard to police things, but you're right, encouraging ballot stuffing is pretty lame.

[metirish]

I really can't be bothered voting 25 times......did I hear correctly that at one point in the late 50's early 60's they held two All-Star Games in the same season?

[Frayed Knot]

metirish wrote: I really can't be bothered voting 25 times......did I hear correctly that at one point in the late 50's early 60's they held two All-Star Games in the same season?

For a few years that was the case.
The money raised by the games was (at least partially) going towards a players' retirement account - back when the idea of that was just getting going - so the players were pretty keen on the idea. As a real pension plan started to develop the two-game idea wasn't needed.

[G-Fafif]

1959 to 1962 -- also proved a bit too much of a good thing in public perception.

[Ceetar]

metirish wrote: I really can't be bothered voting 25 times......did I hear correctly that at one point in the late 50's early 60's they held two All-Star Games in the same season?

I feel taht way in April and May. I figure Mets fans are pessimistic morons who want to hate their own team and don't want to vote for the players to be, as baised as it is, the best of the best.

Then June comes around, I realize I just spent 20 minutes planting imaginary crops and harvesting imaginary eggs of a high school 'friend' I haven't talked to in years, and I go vote.

[G-Fafif]

"So come on you pessimistic morons and vote for David Wright 25 times!"

Now that's a slogan we can all get behind.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Indeed. That would make a nice subway poster campaign.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

Edgy DC wrote: Indeed. That would make a nice subway poster campaign.

And nice collectables, too, as long as you keep them in the attic.

[Ceetar]

G-Fafif wrote: "So come on you pessimistic morons and vote for David Wright 25 times!" Now that's a slogan we can all get behind.

Maybe it just needs the right twist.."Vote for Polanco to get a much needed nap and spend three days on the couch!"

[G-Fafif]

Ceetar wrote: G-Fafif wrote: "So come on you pessimistic morons and vote for David Wright 25 times!" Now that's a slogan we can all get behind. Maybe it just needs the right twist.."Vote for Polanco to get a much needed nap and spend three days on the couch!"

"Make Placido's All-Star break that much more placid."

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

"Please... won't you help take this massive weight off my shoulders, if only for a little while?"

[G-Fafif]

Paid for by the committee to give Placido Polanco a blow, some pessimistic moron Mets fan chairman.

[Centerfield]

People ask Placido Polanco for his autograph because they mistake him for Placido Domingo.

Meanwhile, Placido Domingo has been known to ask David Wright for his autograph.

David refuses to give it to him because his name is "Placido".