IGT Sunday May 2 Mets/Phils

[Guest Edgy DC]

We swant 3-1 that inning and 2-0.

Fine-able offenses.

[Guest metsguyinmichigan]

Let's go beat the hell out of the Reds.

[Gwreck]

What the fuck is wrong with Johan? Walking Ruiz to load the bases (whatever) but you can't fucking throw a strike to Jaime Moyer? What the hell is wrong with you?

[batmagadanleadoff]

What the fuck is wrong with Johan? Walking Ruiz to load the bases (whatever) but you can't fucking throw a strike to Jaime Moyer? What the hell is wrong with you?[/quote:1jfpxwbr]

A) There's nothing really wrong with Johan. He had a bad game. He'll move on and re-establish himself as the same old Cy Young caliber pitcher soon enough.

He's damaged goods. Age, injuries and surgeries have taken their toll. He's 70-80% of what he used to be and he'll never again pitch as well as he pitched two or three years ago.

C) He was pitching with hemorrhoids tonight.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

That was a really shitty performance by him for any reason. Rotten. About as bad as I can remember any pitcher turning in in recent years for or against the Mets.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

What the fuck is wrong with Johan? Walking Ruiz to load the bases (whatever) but you can't fucking throw a strike to Jaime Moyer? What the hell is wrong with you?

[ashie62]

I went to this mess. It sucked. Johan had zilch. Bleech.

[soupcan]

[quote name=Johan Santana as per The New York Times]�Tonight was different,� Santana said. �It was a crazy day.�

Santana said he felt good and had no health problems before or during the game.

�I felt pretty good,� he said. �I had a good warm-up, and I felt everything was fine. It was just one inning when everything went crazy and my fastball just went off and I wasn�t able to command it. That was about it."

Santana was actually close to escaping the fourth-inning devastation with the Mets leading, 5-3. Utley, who had a double and a home run in the inning, was on second with two outs, and Santana got ahead 0-2 in the count on Raul Ibanez. Santana tried to throw a fastball away from Ibanez, but it tailed back over the plate and Ibanez hit a ground-ball single to right field that scored Utley.

�That was the pitch that changed the whole inning,� Santana said.

[Gwreck]

�That was the pitch that changed the whole inning[/quote:356ge912]

Hey idiot, NO IT WASN'T. You STILL had Casto, Ruiz and Moyer at the bottom of the order. Remember them? Not exactly world-beaters with the bats.

You gave up a first-pitch single to Castro (ok).

You then threw 4 pitches out of the strike zone to Carlos Ruiz (stupid).

Then you went 2-0 and then 3-1 to MOYER! WHO HAD NO INTENTION OF EVEN SWINGING UNTIL THERE WERE 2 STRIKES! Take a few miles off and throw it down the middle dammit! The pitch that changed the whole inning was ball 4 to Moyer.

And then -- you STILL HAD 2 OUTS and could've recovered in time to keep us in the game, but of course you didn't.

Edited May 3, 2010 by Guest

[Frayed Knot]

Yeah, even after the 2-HR 1st inning I thought he was throwing pretty well. Neither was a perfect pitch but they weren't bad either and sometimes the hitter needs to get a little credit, especially if it's Howard and in a hitters' park.

Santana then used a total of 16 pitches to dispatch the Phils in the 2nd & the 3rd.

And the 4th didn't start badly either. OK Utley hit a solid double to lead off but that happens. Then Howard flied out and Werth barely hit that dribbler that Barajas made the nice play on and, as far as I was concerned, he was pretty much sailing along. The above article mentions the mis-placed pitch while he was ahead on Ibanez but it was still just a ground single and if Johan catches even a mini-break by having either that hit or the one that followed it go [u:1k8mqea0]TO[/u:1k8mqea0] an infielder instead of between them that inning's over with at worst one run.

But he didn't ... and then the sky fell in.

[smg58]

I thought Pelfrey had an unlucky inning, with a couple of bloops that were almost but not quite caught starting the cascade, but with an 0.67 ERA going into the game you could argue that bad luck was due to catch up with him anyway; oh well, move on, no worries. But Johan? Walking a 90-year-old pitcher with the bases loaded? That's so out-of-character you have to be concerned. Obviously I'm hoping he bounces right back with a solid start next outing, but until then I'm going to be a little bit anxious.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Coincided with one of the worst runs I'd had in weeks. I was beat up, loaded with cake and pizza, and sunburnt from a punishing weekend of kids birthday parties when I left on my regular run with the Mets up 3-2. I had zero butt/thigh strength, the humidity was intense, and I endured a stiff headwind for the first 2 miles, made bearable only as a result of Barajas' HR around mile 1. The Santana suck inning went on for the next 3 miles, over and back the Williamsburg Bridge, pure torture. I ripped off the headphones after the Mets went 1-2-3 in the fifth and straggled toward home, finally running out of gas completely nearly a mile away from home, way off pace and hating myself.

FUCK YOU JOHAN! You made everyone around you suck!!!

[Guest Edgy DC]

I was bruised and battered and I couldnt tell what I felt I was unrecognizable to myself I saw my reflection in a window; I didn't know my own face Oh brother are you gonna leave me wastin�away On the streets of philadelphia

Seriously, the greater disgrace to me was the Met offense packing up the tent after that inning. Waaa, our big shot disappointed us! We're helpless now! Why even try?!

Man up, you freaks.

[Frayed Knot]

The Barajas 4th inning HR was our last hit.
Only a Bay walk kept it from being complete 1-2-3 x 5 suck-fest

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Speaking of shitty offenses, what are the alternatives to Gary Jr.?

beep beep boop beep moop beep boop ... Hello? Is this Mr. Dye?

[Guest Edgy DC]

Pridie and Feliciano are hitting in Buffalo. F-Bomb, not so much. Better than Matthews, of course.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

Pridie and Feliciano are hitting in Buffalo. F-Bomb, not so much. Better than Matthews, of course.

[Frayed Knot]

The whole idea behind Mathews was, that as long as Beltan is unavailable, they wanted a true CF who could play in case the 'rarely plays more than six weeks without hurting himself and who knows what the real player is anyway' Angel Pagan needed help. So until such time as the real CF is back, I don't think they're going to abandon GMJ for a PH/corner type like Dye or Stairs or whoever.

Someone else who can actually play CF if needed on the other hand ...

[batmagadanleadoff]

At least we're still getting the back pages.