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[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

I think the writers are all on board with Bob Melvin.

[soupcan]

I don't see how Omar ought to survive the next managerial whackage.[/quote:27cyawbv]

He better not and I don't think he will.

I just see Bobby V. as maybe embracing the GM role as another challenge. Backman strikes me as a sparkplug kinda manger and I could see those those two personalities working well together (as much as I actually know about their personalities of course...).

[Benjamin Grimm]

Has a team ever fired a GM and a manager simultaneously and in-season? (I suppose it's been done, I just can't recall any examples offhand.)

I guess the way to do it, if you're going to do it, is to get your GM lined up and have him pick his manager in advance of the announcement. How you do that, and keep it out of the tweets, is another story.

[Benjamin Grimm]

I just see Bobby V. as maybe embracing the GM role as another challenge. Backman strikes me as a sparkplug kinda manger and I could see those those two personalities working well together (as much as I actually know about their personalities of course...).[/quote:rl7amioq]

Really? I think it would be a circus followed by a disaster.

[soupcan]

The reality is, none of us know who would work well with who. For all we know, Bobby and Wally go way back and are chummy chum chums. Or they hate the living shit out each other.

I love Bobby and I have fond memories of Wally who has had managerial success.

I know one thing - When Omar does ultimately get the axe, his press conference is going to be must see TV and must listen-to radio.

"You know, no doubtaboutit, there was failings that we,um, failed to process and, you know, that is something that Fred and Jeff wanted to not do and Jerry was the right guy who didn't know that - you know- what we needed to um, do, and you know that these times come and you know that when you take these types of jobs you will get fired but I have no regrets and this is a good team and injuries and you know...."

Oh, it's gonna be painful.

[TransMonk]

No more painful than this mess of a team he created.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Yeah, well, you see, the one thing that might give me pause when pulling the trigger on Omar is that he'd be leaving with a good-looking few prospects that another GM might well squander. But you never know. Phillips was whacked just as Reyes and Wright hit the horizon.

[Guest Edgy DC]

I think the writers are all on board with Bob Melvin.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Really? I think Omar was a fool for not doing anything beyond Ayala to solidify the bullpen while it melted down in 08; and then, only after Wagner just delivered painful proof that Brand Name closers aren't worth the commitments they invariably get, Omar spends many more millions on K-Rod AND trades five guys for another Big Name closer, thinking somehow that solved the issues.

[Guest Edgy DC]

The shuffling of the reliever chairs after the season certainly didn't solve anything, and some of his worst trades involve the relievers he's traded and the releivers he's acquired. I attribute that meltdown to bullpen management, a skill at which Jerry frustrates me even more than Willie, if that's possible.

We had a meltdown of the bullpen under both managers, with different whipping boys. This psychotic need to find guys magic roles to fit into the magic formula is doomed to fail and Jerry's fingers are all over it. Note how much energy was expended this winter and spring on finding and identifying the guy to pitch the eighth inning and set up all of Rodriguez's saves, a situation that hasn't yet come up.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

While farting around with the News archives, I found this little bit of rationalization fun.

NUMBERS DON'T LIE
If Manuel's decision Wednesday night to use Fernando Tatis as a pinch-runner and Alex Cora as a pinch-hitter in the 10th inning seemed curious, statistics and history backed him up: Cora is simply a better pinch-hitter.

In 88 pinch-hit at-bats, Cora has 25 hits and one home run, for a .291 average. Tatis is 19-for-79 (.241), with two homers.