Thanks, Vecsey ... I'm gonna go slit my wrists lol

[Guest Kong76]

Just joking for thread title sake, and it's a good day before opening
day column, except for the sprinkling in of Yankee comparisons which
I suppose is mandatory this day and age ...

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/04/sports/baseball/04vecsey.html?ref=baseball

[Frayed Knot]

Yeah, I usually trust Vescey not to boringly run with the pack. But if he's going to write as if last year was like the ninth in a string of 100-loss seasons rather than a disaster which followed three seasons with more than 270 wins combined then I'm going to be tempted to toss him in with the rest of those who decide what to write by checking the prevailing winds.
I'm fine with it if peeps want to pick against the Mets and predict a lousy season, just don't act like it's part of pre-ordained pattern because you've erased your memory banks of everything that occurred more than 10 months ago.

[ashie62]

Everyone is in first place at the moment

[MFS62]

His brother, Peter, has stuck to basketball reporting.
And he has made the hoops hall of fame doing it.
Peter and I have exchanged correspondence, holiday greetings, emails, etc. for years, but the topic of his brother has never come up.
Later

[Guest metsguyinmichigan]

Screw him! I love my $395 brick, and got all weepy just seeing in person last year.

[metirish]

Vescey Wrote

The Yankees open at Fenway Park on Sunday night � those words never really do grow old, do they?

pass the puke bucket.

[Fman99]

I'm going to not read it, not click on the link, and therefore have a higher quality of life than you dolts.

[Guest Kong76]

I'm not going back to look, but the bricks are for charity, no?

[Frayed Knot]

MFS62 wrote: His brother, Peter, has stuck to basketball reporting. And he has made the hoops hall of fame doing it. Peter and I have exchanged correspondence, holiday greetings, emails, etc. for years, but the topic of his brother has never come up. Later

The two write at least as differently as they look - ie, not similar at all - and I'm not totally sure they're all that close. I think I remember some story about friction that developed over an issue involving one (or maybe both) of the aging parents but maybe my memory is fading too.

I wouldn't even attempt to compare them as sportswriters. Peter not only stuck with one sport but retained the snarky, fast-talking style as urban & caustic as the tabloids he's worked for all his life. George's prose, on the other hand, fits the style of the old gray lady and frequently waft from topic to topic on sports both mainstream and obscure, as likely to be written from a cafe table in some European city as in the press box of some modern American stadium. He was even, for a time, the paper's religion writer and it was through that avenue that he wound up writing 'Coal Miner's Daughter' for Loretta Lynn.

[Guest metsguyinmichigan]

Down here in Florida, they sell the Daily News alongside the Florida papers. Bought one. Wow. Almost every baseball story in the Sunday paper had some kind of cheap shot taken at the Mets. It was unreal. Do they do that kind of crap every day, or was Sunday just a particularly bad day?

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

I think in the Snooze the guys providing the information tend to be very good (beat writers & reporters). It's the clowns with the photos along with the bylines that suck. Once you understand their populist take on the issues and can distinguish between what's meant to inform and what's meant to create news, it's a pretty good paper.

I'd like to swap out John Harper and Filip Bondy for Joel Sherman and Mike Vaccaro of the Post tho.

Bondy btw has a nice piece on the HoF today, he's not 100% evil.

[metirish]

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Bondy btw has a nice piece on the HoF today, he's not 100% evil.

Yeah , it's a good piece . I was surprised in a way. I agree on Sherman, although I never buy the post.

[Frayed Knot]

I think the only caveat with the NYDN sports coverage is that they're so in bed w/the Yanx from a co-promotional standpoint that you need to go through it with an ability to mentally separate what's news and what is essentially advertising come-ons. Do that and you'll be OK.
If, on the other hand, you let the fact that one of the columns happens to be next to a half-page of ads that talk about free Yanqui player posters being in tomorrow's paper, or for a NYDN-sponsored contest to win free MFY tickets, and you allow that to color your opinion of what's in the column then you're going to have a problem.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Well, the Snooze ran a free Mets tix promotion with front-page banners and full-page ads foe two days each of the last two weeks. I entered four times and expect to hear I'm a winner any minute now!

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

George's prose, on the other hand, fits the style of the old gray lady and frequently waft from topic to topic on sports both mainstream and obscure, as likely to be written from a cafe table in some European city as in the press box of some modern American stadium.

THAT explains his take-- he can't see the minor leagues from Brussels.

Just because a potshot's cloaked in references to Inferno-- really? REALLY?-- doesn't make it any less fishwrap-worthy.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Yeah, I think the Inferno reference is fine. It's the facts he has all wrong.

Can somebody, anybody, mention Roy Halladay without ignoring that it cost them the younger Cliff Lee, who went 4-0 // 1.56 in 40 1/3 IP in the 2009 post-season? It's an exciting deal, but let's not pretend it wasn't and isn't risky.

[metirish]

Any deal that the Mets didn't make or worse couldn't be bothered even trying to make is considered a great deal.

[bmfc1]

Vecsey says he may have been wrong:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/27/sports/baseball/27vecsey.html?src=twr

[Fman99]

Fuck him in his old apologist New York Times puzzle monocle wearing opera ingesting ass.

[Elster88]

Yes!

[ashie62]

Is this the same Vecsey that was terrorizing housewives in a Toys R Us some years back?