Hot Stove 2009-2010

[willpie]

Has Burrell ever played any 1B? If he's not Piazza-esque there, I guess i wouldn't hate acquiring him. Especially if it meant saying goodbye to Castillo and hello to Hudson. he could split time between LF, 1B, and DH during interleague play.

[metirish]

58 games in 2000 according to B-R

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/b/burrepa01.shtml

[MFS62]

I guess you guys are referring to a rumor talked about on radio this morning that the Mets had acquired Burrell.
According to Sweeney Murti (WFAN) a few minutes ago, there is no truth to that rumor.
Doesn't mean it won't happen, but it hasn't happened yet.

Later

[metirish]

Rumor 62 refers to

From phillyBurbs

Former Phillies outfielder Pat Burrell has reportedly been swapped twice this morning, eventually landing with Phils division rival the New York Mets.

The Tampa Bay Rays traded the slugging left fielder to the Chicago Cubs then the Cubs dealt Burrell to the Mets. Names of other players involved in the deals were not immediately available to WIP-AM (610), which reported the trade.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Burell does not meet my standards for cheap and Latin.

[Benjamin Grimm]

For many years now I've had a hunch that Pat Burrell would one day be a Met, most likely after he had passed his prime.

I may have even documented it here in the forum; I'll have to poke around a bit.

I'm not sure of what I'd think of such a move. If he's going to be handed the keys to left field, I'll be disappointed. But if he's a fourth outfielder/backup first base man then maybe it won't be so bad, depending, of course, on what it takes to get him.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Mets Deny Reported Burrell Trade
By BEN SHPIGEL
INDIANAPOLIS � The Mets, contrary to a report on the website phillyburbs.com, are not close to acquiring Pat Burrell in a three-team deal with the Tampa Bay Rays and the Chicago Cubs. A club official shot down the report, saying that the report was uncategorically false.

It�s no secret that the Rays want to move Burrell, the Cubs want to deal Milton Bradley and the Mets are trying to unload Luis Castillo. Bradley is owed $21 million over the next two seasons, Castillo $12 million through 2011 and Burrell $9 million in 2010. That�s a lot of salary to match up.

Even though Burrell fits the Mets� need for a right-handed slugger, he might not be a good option for another reason: his defense. The team values speed and defense even more now that they�re playing in Citi Field, and Burrell doesn�t really supply much of either. There�s also not much of an indication that he would move to first base, where he could be used in tandem with Daniel Murphy. That, though, would seem like a lot of money spent on a right-handed hitting caddy in the National League.

[metirish]

From something called Double G Sports

Elmer Dessens has talked with a few teams but is expected to re-sign with the Mets.

- A Philadelphia news report is saying the Mets have acquired Pat Burrell but from what I have heard, the Mets have no interest in Burrell. So, stay tuned on this topic.

- The Mets are looking at Gil Meche as a possible trade target.

- Also keeping an eye on Carlos Delgado but have no interest in Nick Johnson.

- Still looking to trade Luis Castillo. One rumor had Castillo going to the Cubs in a three team trade that would send Blue Jays first baseman Lyle Overbay to the Mets.

- Another potential trade is rumored. The Dodgers and Mets may be discussing a swap of bad contracts. Castillo would go to LA while the Mets would receive Juan Pierre


We will be seeing a lot fo Brian Bruney as he is traded to the Nats

[Frayed Knot]

These "scoops" and rumors from those on-line sites are nothing more than regurgitated rumors from other sites - at least some of which is simply stuff folks make up because it sounds like something that various teams might do.

- the Castillo for Pierre shit is at least a year old and I don't think EVER had any basis in fact, while the similar Overbay rumor is at least a month old and just as stale
- I'm betting the whole Bradley-Castillo-Burrell was totally made up in the first place and is now just being repeated so as to serve as the illusion of real information
- the Meche suggestion was swiped from Joel Sherman in this morning's NYPost and even he treats it as barely beyond the speculation point


Do yourselves a favor kiddies, ignore 90% of this crap and question the remainder

[ashie62]

One blog, picks up another blogs, streams another blog blog blog blog

Screw blogs

[ashie62]

On that note, Edwin Jackson has been blogged to the Mets

If true tremendous pickup

[HahnSolo]

Ashie62 wrote: On that note, Edwin Jackson has been blogged to the Mets If true tremendous pickup

Come again?

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

HahnSolo wrote: Ashie62 wrote: On that note, Edwin Jackson has been blogged to the Mets If true tremendous pickup Come again?

I thought that was a funny remark. Some douchebag twittered the Jackson to Mets thing as a rumor he heard in the lobby, sending dozens of other twits to race to be the first to deny it.

[ashie62]

Per Fox, the Pirates have intensified their pursuit of Bobby Crosby

thats big of them

[metirish]

Ashie62 wrote: Per Fox, the Pirates have intensified their pursuit of Bobby Crosby thats big of them

And I complain about the Mets...

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

Frayed Knot wrote: Do yourselves a favor kiddies, ignore 90% of this crap and question the remainder

Especially on the FA front. Unless it's a report of an actual done deal-- and therefore verifiable either way-- it's ALL crap at this point in the offseason, and likely being leaked to put pressure on potential bidders (see "Heyman, Jon").

[metirish]

Minaya when asked about potential trades

"I don't want to say I'm that close," he said. "But closer than we were. I'm getting either an idea that we're going to get it done or not get it done. Put it this way - I'm further along today than I was [sunday] night."

Ok


also from the article....Newsday

At least two things became crystal-clear. The Mets have no interest in the Rays' Pat Burrell, so he will not be involved in any dumping of Castillo. The Tigers' Edwin Jackson also is on the block, but the Mets are not considered in the running for him despite a crazy rumor that surfaced yesterday. As one MLB official said, "There is zero chance of him going to the Mets. Zero."

[HahnSolo]

from Jon Heyman (who with glasses could be a younger Ben Stein):

The Mets and Brewers have discussed a trade that could send pitcher John Maine to Milwaukee for outfielder Corey Hart. It appears Mets GM Omar Minaya wants to wait to acquire more pitching before trading a pitcher. But that deal seems to have a chance. Hart is a solid all-around player, but another questions is whether he'd provide the needed power Mets seek.

[Benjamin Grimm]

It also seems like the Mets and Brewers are competing for Randy Wolf's signature. The above trade would be much more likely if Wolf ended up with the Mets.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

I'm OK on Hart, decent hitter and room for improvement, but I'm also skeptical of Maine and his health/consistency. Maybe the Mets feel that getting the Brewers Maine loosens their grip on Wolf and he comes to the Mets.

I recall Hart screwing up a few plays in the outfield in Met-Brewer games I've seen.

Also, looks like the MFYs are close to pulling off a 3-team WATP to get Granderson. Fuck them.

Two executives involved in the deal said the structure is basically that Arizona would get pitchers Edwin Jackson (Tigers) and Ian Kennedy (Yankees), the Yankees would get Granderson, and the Tigers would receive reliever Daniel Schlereth and starter Max Scherzer from Arizona, and outfielder Austin Jackson, pitchers Phil Coke and Mike Dunn from the Yankees.

[TransMonk]

Hart's similarity scores on BBref show Josh Willingham as #3 and Ryan Church as #5.

In my mind he is Francoeur with more speed and less D.

He's got heart and wears sunglasses at night, though.

[ashie62]

My Mets wrist watching wearing mailman loves the idea of Bengie Molina at C..we're screwed

Corey Hart in the OF and Lackey and/or Wolf

Assuming Molina that would about do it

I will not remember or care about the Maine

[Valadius]

Granderson to MFYs. They part with beloved prospect Austin Jackson, among others in the 3-team deal.

[metirish]

Some of the others are Ian Kennedy and Phil Choke but not Hughes which seems like a good deal for the yankees.......wankers

[Frayed Knot]

Austin Jackson is considered a good prospect so it's not like they're giving up nothing - although he's basically the kind you hope one day becomes as good as Granderson. CG did have an inexplicably bad 2nd half this year.
This says good-bye to one or more of the Damon-Matsui-Melky crowd. Probably Melky.

Arizona would get pitchers Edwin Jackson (Tigers) and Ian Kennedy (Yankees), the Yankees would get Granderson, and the Tigers would receive reliever Daniel Schlereth and starter Max Scherzer from Arizona, and outfielder Austin Jackson, pitchers Phil Coke and Mike Dunn from the Yankees.

These three-ways always take a while to sort out.
- Kennedy was the guy the Yanx drafted about 20 spots ahead of Joba, but he showed little while up in the majors and then needed aneurysm sugery. Still young enough to have promise I guess.
- Edwin Jackson has spent years now looking tantalizingly great but only for brief periods of time
- Schlereth (LHP) & Scherzer (RHP) share a lot of consonants and a real hard fastball. Scherzer could start or relieve, Schlereth (son of former NFL player and current ESPN analyst Mark) has been strictly a reliever since college.
- Coke is a decent situational lefty. Don't know anything about Dunn.

Edited December 8, 2009 by Guest

[Guest Vince Coleman Firecracker]

Wow, there's a lot of talent involved in that deal. If I had to choose one end of that deal, I'd probably take the players Detroit's getting.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Apparently the MFYs held back Dunn as a matter of principal (I'm sure it's to inflate his value for some other deal).

What you have to hope here is that Granderson's propensity to whiff increases and his split differentials widen, making the MFYs really pay the price for the 10+ Mills he'll be owed in 2010 and 2011. Until just now I kinda thought he was pretty good.

[metirish]

John Cougar Lunchbucket wrote: Apparently the MFYs held back Dunn as a matter of principal (I'm sure it's to inflate his value for some other deal). What you have to hope here is that Granderson's propensity to whiff increases and his split differentials widen, making the MFYs really pay the price for the 10+ Mills he'll be owed in 2010 and 2011. Until just now I kinda thought he was pretty good.

Yeah looking at some of his numbers he's not the big shit I thought.....terrible against lefties , lots of SO....I guess in his new home park they think he will hit more home runs.

[Guest metsguyinmichigan]

Aw hell. I LIKED Granderson. Nice guy when I interviewed him last year.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Speaking of celebratory MFY Moments, where's Rogers been?