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I tell you, what makes this stretch extra painful is that Howie and Gary both seem to have given up on this team with extra disgust.


Guest Edgy DC
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I misse Wright's screwup. Any descrriptions or accounts?

Bullpen time.


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tough on Nieve not to get through that inning with Wright making that mistake.


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foul ball, that he got under but seemed to pull out of. Speculation in the booth is that a fan yelled "I GOT IT" and he got spooked thinking it was Cora.


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Edgy DC wrote:
I misse Wright's screwup. Any descrriptions or accounts?

Bullpen time.


Someone in Philly apparently does a kick-ass Alex Cora impression.

McCarver guessed that he heard someone in the crowd call him off, as if he were Cora. Wright's reaction on the replay closeup doesn't disagree with McCarver's thought.


Guest Edgy DC
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Who called Santos off?


Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
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DOS FUCKING MANOS.


Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
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The third-base coach-- who waved Bako, then held him-- gave us a gift, there.

Ingraciously, we refused to accept.

EDIT: Seems I'm doing the "we" thing regularly now. Great time to overidentify with a team.


Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket
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We are just so fucking awful.


Guest Edgy DC
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Team has Torre-era character.


Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr
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3 runs. Touchable pen. Come on.



Guest Edgy DC
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LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr wrote:
3 runs. Touchable pen. Come on.



Works for me.


Guest metsguyinmichigan
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I can understand that the injuries are going to hurt performance. But the stuff like the dropped pop-ups is just horrible. Which coach deals with the defense? Why does he still have a job?


Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket
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No fair.

We really deserved to lose by more.


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metirish wrote:
Too easy , on the plus side I was working the grill for the bulk of this game.


Super..I feel like those who watched on the 4th are members of the friends of the friendless club

I fear Sandy Alomar might be the first whacked


Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket
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I was making paella and vacuuming.


Guest mario25
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It is an organizitional nightmare starting right at the top with the Wilpons. Building a new stadium with not a hint of Metdom in it, screwing up all the medical issues with hurt players and thinking this team should be on the field in its current state is a sham to the fans. This is NY and you shouldnt put an awful product on the field. MAKE A TRADE for God's sake.


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Jeez from reading the IGT and the report from Newsday I am glad to have missed this.....

Comedy of errors in Met loss in Philly

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BY ANTHONY RIEBER | anthony.rieber@newsday.com
7:01 PM EDT, July 4, 2009

PHILADELPHIA - Before the top of the sixth inning at Citizens Bank Park on Saturday, a tuxedoed Phillie Phanatic performed the tired routine in which he uses a mallet to smash a Mets batting helmet.

The attempt at comedy was no match for what the Mets did in the bottom of the inning:

A missed pop-up in which Alex Cora called off David Wright and then let the ball fall foul.

A dropped foul pop-up by Omir Santos.


A wild throw to the backstop by Ryan Church and failed hockey goalie kick-save attempt by pitcher Pat Misch, who was backing up the play.

The crowd was in stitches. Jerry Manuel was not. Once again, the Mets lost and looked bad doing it in a 4-1 defeat to the Phillies.

It wasn't just giving the Phillies five outs and letting them score an unearned insurance run that made the Mets look feeble. They also managed just five hits against 46-year-old lefty Jamie Moyer and only scored against him on an RBI single by pitcher Fernando Nieve in the fifth.

The Mets' 3-4-5 batters – David Wright, Gary Sheffield and Fernando Tatis – came in a combined .433 with eight home runs against Moyer, who entered the game with a 6.05 ERA. They were 0-for-9 against him on Saturday.

Cora, often cited by general manager Omar Minaya and manager Jerry Manuel as a "leadership" player, was also doubled off first base on a line drive to second in the fourth. But at least he knew he messed up both times. And he did have three of the Mets' hits.

The Mets (39-41), who have lost seven of their last nine, fell three games behind the Phillies in the NL East. They were spared the indignity of falling into fourth place by the Braves, who lost to Washington. The Mets and Atlanta are tied for third.

Nieve (3-2) didn't pitch all that badly. He allowed a run in the first on Jayson Werth's sacrifice fly and two in the fourth on Jimmy Rollins' two-out, two-run double into the rightfield corner as the Phillies took a 3-0 lead.

And then there was the run in the sixth after the Mets had pulled to within two on Nieve's second career RBI .

Paul Bako lifted a one-out pop into foul territory down the third-base line. Wright and Cora got their signals crossed (no error was charged) and Bako got new life. He walked.

After a sacrifice bunt by Moyer, Rollins walked, too. Shane Victorino hit a potential inning-ending pop-up behind the plate, but a staggering Santos watched it bounce off his mitt for an error.

Victorino then ripped a single to center. Bako put on the brakes after rounding third, but Church's throw home was so far up the third-base line that it skipped past Santos as Bako headed for home again.

Misch, backing up the plate, attempted – and failed – to stop the errant ball by kicking at it, adding to the slapstick quality of the inning and giving the Phillies a 4-1 lead.

Nieve was charged with four runs (three earned) in 5 2/3 innings. Moyer (7-6) got the first out of the seventh and then departed after 87 pitches in his 600th career start.




OK , even taking into account that Rieber is probably a hack this is just not getting any better is it?


Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket
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mario25 wrote:
It is an organizitional nightmare starting right at the top with the Wilpons. Building a new stadium with not a hint of Metdom in it, screwing up all the medical issues with hurt players and thinking this team should be on the field in its current state is a sham to the fans. This is NY and you shouldnt put an awful product on the field. MAKE A TRADE for God's sake.


I don;t really agree with any of that. What I dislike about this team is that they continually fail to execute plays. That's it.


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Time to fire the coaching staff. Can't fire the players, and I think the coaching staff actually bears a lot of the blame in the atrocious lack of fundamentals.


Guest Edgy DC
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mario25 wrote:
It is an organizitional nightmare starting right at the top with the Wilpons. Building a new stadium with not a hint of Metdom in it, screwing up all the medical issues with hurt players and thinking this team should be on the field in its current state is a sham to the fans. This is NY and you shouldnt put an awful product on the field. MAKE A TRADE for God's sake.


Easy sailor.


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