Wily Mo

[Guest Edgy DC]

Heating up and batting .333 in June. It seems like swapping the Fart out for him can give the Mets some more lefty/righty balance.

When the Mets have been going with their righthanded lineup in recent weeks, it left no rightiees on the bench and Murphy pinch-hitting against lefties.

[metirish]

I'd keep Martinez , he's been doing better. Wili Mo has no future with this team .

[Guest Edgy DC]

The present has some importance also.

[metirish]

Yes , I should have qualified my remark to account for the present . Bring Wily but not at the expense of Fernando , cut Stokes or something .

[Guest Edgy DC]

Well, since seven guys on the big league roster have options, I'm not about cutting anybody. I certainly don't want this anywhere near that badly.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

When Murphy's hitting, he hits lefties fine. I don't love Wily Mo, even as a bench guy (his career pinch-hitting numbers are abysmal). That said... it-- like anything at this point that could potentially improve depth-- is worth exploring.

Who's got options remaining?

Parnell, Maine, Pelfrey, Fernando the Younger...

[seawolf17]

Wily Mo's only 27 years old. Why can't he have a future with this team? I know it feels like's he's been around forever, but he signed when he was in elementary school.

His b-r.com similar batters by age aren't bad -- Pete Incaviglia, Jesse Barfield, Cory Snyder, and Bob Allison. I'd stick any of them in the outfield over a 20-year-old kid.

[soupcan]

="seawolf17":pep7rik2]...Pete Incaviglia, Jesse Barfield, Cory Snyder, and Bob Allison. I'd stick any of them in the outfield over a 20-year-old kid.[/quote:pep7rik2] Pete Incaviglia? Really? You need to re-think that.

Edgy DC Jun 17 2009 10:48 AM

Unless he's gotten as big as I fear, Wily Mo has always been a good defensive outfielder. No Barfield, but no Incaviglia either. Mets with options: SPs: Nieve RPs: Parnell Switzer Takahashi Cs: Santos IFs: Murphy OFs: Fartinez

Hawkeye57 Jun 17 2009 01:56 PM

I think that Willy Mo is a good alternative should (heaven forbid) any outfielder that isn't Beltran get sick/hurt and require the DL. Not completely sold on Willy Mo just yet. Haven't gone to any of the Bisons games yet this season so I don't have a firsthand look so far.

Ashie62 Jun 17 2009 04:50 PM

="Edgy DC":88672rsw]The present has some importance also.[/quote:88672rsw] I'm a litle surprised hasn't been included in the cattle call yet Edgy DC Jun 22 2009 10:13 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jun 22 2009 10:55 AM A small dream dies today with the news that Wily Mo Pe�a has been released along with javier Valentin. Not much in the way of clues behind either. Valentin had been playing the infield for Buffalo, and had just come off of the DL. Maybe he was unable to catch and when he hadn't recovered his catchiness while recuperating, they cut their losses. Wily Mo is another case, as he had been hitting. The only clue I have comes from this report on Friday night's game. In the third inning, Wily Mo Pena blasted had a solo home run that cleared three tiers of outfield signage. In the fifth he was removed from the game after suffering apparent cramps while legging out an infield single. With no further info, I'm guessing he either (1) became a casualty in the Mets fake war against dogging, or (2) became distraught when Evans got promoted over him and asked for his release, either explictily or through pouting and dogging. Anyhow, one of the spots goes to Arturo Lopez (real first name: Javier), a lefty reliever from Mexico, picked up on waivers from the Pads. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 22 2009 10:18 AM "That large man hits balls over fences? He simply clubs them out? Why, that's quite vulgar, and most definitely NOT in the spirit of Metropolitans brand base-ball." smg58 Jun 22 2009 10:52 AM ="Edgy DC":3551cmku]Not much in the way of clues behind either. Valentin had been playing the infield for Buffalo, and had just come off of the DL. Maybe he was unable to catch and when he hadn't recovered his catchiness while recuperating, they cut their losses.[/quote:3551cmku] That sounds plausible. It would seem odd at face value to cut their next best catching option after dealing Castro, but if he can't catch then he's not really worth much. And we still have Robinson Cancel in case of an emergency. ="Edgy DC":3551cmku]With no further info, I'm guessing he either (1) became a casualty in the Mets fake war against dogging, or (2) became distraught when Evans got promoted over him and asked for his release, either explictily or through pouting and dogging.[/quote:3551cmku] Well he did beat the throw, so I doubt it had to do with dogging. But I wouldn't put it beyond Pena to take getting passed over on a promotion poorly. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 22 2009 11:06 AM ="smg58":h2tlz1zf] ="Edgy DC":h2tlz1zf]Not much in the way of clues behind either. Valentin had been playing the infield for Buffalo, and had just come off of the DL. Maybe he was unable to catch and when he hadn't recovered his catchiness while recuperating, they cut their losses.[/quote:h2tlz1zf] That sounds plausible. It would seem odd at face value to cut their next best catching option after dealing Castro, but if he can't catch then he's not really worth much. And we still have Robinson Cancel in case of an emergency. ="Edgy DC":h2tlz1zf]With no further info, I'm guessing he either (1) became a casualty in the Mets fake war against dogging, or (2) became distraught when Evans got promoted over him and asked for his release, either explictily or through pouting and dogging.[/quote:h2tlz1zf] Well he did beat the throw, so I doubt it had to do with dogging. But I wouldn't put it beyond Pena to take getting passed over on a promotion poorly.[/quote:h2tlz1zf] Refused assignment with the Nats earlier this year-- it's how he got released. It doesn't seem implausible he signed with the Mets thinking he was 'one away' and felt betrayed in some way when that didn't immediately materialize. (I'm not sure I understand Evans over him, either. Ah, well.) Fman99 Jun 22 2009 12:27 PM Dumb. Like the Mets don't need an OF with pop in his bat. I continue to be mystified by Omar and Jerry and their "boobery" of roster and lineup management. metirish Jun 22 2009 01:25 PM Pena is the kind of player that would thrive under Bobby Valentine , not that that means anything. Just that he reminds me of a Benny Agbayani type. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 22 2009 02:34 PM ="metirish":m03tfpx2]Pena is the kind of player that would thrive under Bobby Valentine , not that that means anything. Just that he reminds me of a Benny Agbayani type.[/quote:m03tfpx2] Except a LOT bigger. He wasn't exactly killing it up north, and is less "outfielder" than "a guy who can fake three OF positions," but he did have a higher home runs/PA (1/30) than half of today's starting lineup, and a three-or-four-year stretch in his recent rearview where he absotively posolutely murdered lefties. Unless he took a bat to somebody or fondled a batboy/girl/dog behind closed doors... I don't get it. Edgy DC Jun 22 2009 09:08 PM And Conor Robertson gets DFA'd. It's a bloodletting up in Buffalo. John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 22 2009 09:19 PM Ike Davis in the meantime was promoted to AA. He was killing it in St. Lucie. He's the LH hitting 1Bman they drafted with their first pick last year. Connor Robertson was Jeff Wilpon's "addition by subtraction" booshit.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Unless he's gotten as big as I fear, Wily Mo has always been a good defensive outfielder. No Barfield, but no Incaviglia either.

Mets with options:

SPs:
Nieve

RPs:
Parnell
Switzer
Takahashi

Cs:
Santos

IFs:
Murphy

OFs:
Fartinez

[Guest Hawkeye57]

I think that Willy Mo is a good alternative should (heaven forbid) any outfielder that isn't Beltran get sick/hurt and require the DL.

Not completely sold on Willy Mo just yet. Haven't gone to any of the Bisons games yet this season so I don't have a firsthand look so far.

[ashie62]

="Edgy DC":88672rsw]The present has some importance also.[/quote:88672rsw] I'm a litle surprised hasn't been included in the cattle call yet

Edgy DC Jun 22 2009 10:13 AM Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jun 22 2009 10:55 AM

A small dream dies today with the news that Wily Mo Pe�a has been released along with javier Valentin. Not much in the way of clues behind either. Valentin had been playing the infield for Buffalo, and had just come off of the DL. Maybe he was unable to catch and when he hadn't recovered his catchiness while recuperating, they cut their losses. Wily Mo is another case, as he had been hitting. The only clue I have comes from this report on Friday night's game. In the third inning, Wily Mo Pena blasted had a solo home run that cleared three tiers of outfield signage. In the fifth he was removed from the game after suffering apparent cramps while legging out an infield single. With no further info, I'm guessing he either (1) became a casualty in the Mets fake war against dogging, or (2) became distraught when Evans got promoted over him and asked for his release, either explictily or through pouting and dogging. Anyhow, one of the spots goes to Arturo Lopez (real first name: Javier), a lefty reliever from Mexico, picked up on waivers from the Pads.

LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 22 2009 10:18 AM

"That large man hits balls over fences? He simply clubs them out? Why, that's quite vulgar, and most definitely NOT in the spirit of Metropolitans brand base-ball."

smg58 Jun 22 2009 10:52 AM

="Edgy DC":3551cmku]Not much in the way of clues behind either. Valentin had been playing the infield for Buffalo, and had just come off of the DL. Maybe he was unable to catch and when he hadn't recovered his catchiness while recuperating, they cut their losses.[/quote:3551cmku] That sounds plausible. It would seem odd at face value to cut their next best catching option after dealing Castro, but if he can't catch then he's not really worth much. And we still have Robinson Cancel in case of an emergency. ="Edgy DC":3551cmku]With no further info, I'm guessing he either (1) became a casualty in the Mets fake war against dogging, or (2) became distraught when Evans got promoted over him and asked for his release, either explictily or through pouting and dogging.[/quote:3551cmku] Well he did beat the throw, so I doubt it had to do with dogging. But I wouldn't put it beyond Pena to take getting passed over on a promotion poorly. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 22 2009 11:06 AM ="smg58":h2tlz1zf] ="Edgy DC":h2tlz1zf]Not much in the way of clues behind either. Valentin had been playing the infield for Buffalo, and had just come off of the DL. Maybe he was unable to catch and when he hadn't recovered his catchiness while recuperating, they cut their losses.[/quote:h2tlz1zf] That sounds plausible. It would seem odd at face value to cut their next best catching option after dealing Castro, but if he can't catch then he's not really worth much. And we still have Robinson Cancel in case of an emergency. ="Edgy DC":h2tlz1zf]With no further info, I'm guessing he either (1) became a casualty in the Mets fake war against dogging, or (2) became distraught when Evans got promoted over him and asked for his release, either explictily or through pouting and dogging.[/quote:h2tlz1zf] Well he did beat the throw, so I doubt it had to do with dogging. But I wouldn't put it beyond Pena to take getting passed over on a promotion poorly.[/quote:h2tlz1zf] Refused assignment with the Nats earlier this year-- it's how he got released. It doesn't seem implausible he signed with the Mets thinking he was 'one away' and felt betrayed in some way when that didn't immediately materialize. (I'm not sure I understand Evans over him, either. Ah, well.) Fman99 Jun 22 2009 12:27 PM Dumb. Like the Mets don't need an OF with pop in his bat. I continue to be mystified by Omar and Jerry and their "boobery" of roster and lineup management. metirish Jun 22 2009 01:25 PM Pena is the kind of player that would thrive under Bobby Valentine , not that that means anything. Just that he reminds me of a Benny Agbayani type. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 22 2009 02:34 PM ="metirish":m03tfpx2]Pena is the kind of player that would thrive under Bobby Valentine , not that that means anything. Just that he reminds me of a Benny Agbayani type.[/quote:m03tfpx2] Except a LOT bigger. He wasn't exactly killing it up north, and is less "outfielder" than "a guy who can fake three OF positions," but he did have a higher home runs/PA (1/30) than half of today's starting lineup, and a three-or-four-year stretch in his recent rearview where he absotively posolutely murdered lefties. Unless he took a bat to somebody or fondled a batboy/girl/dog behind closed doors... I don't get it. Edgy DC Jun 22 2009 09:08 PM And Conor Robertson gets DFA'd. It's a bloodletting up in Buffalo. John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 22 2009 09:19 PM Ike Davis in the meantime was promoted to AA. He was killing it in St. Lucie. He's the LH hitting 1Bman they drafted with their first pick last year. Connor Robertson was Jeff Wilpon's "addition by subtraction" booshit.

[Guest Edgy DC]

A small dream dies today with the news that Wily Mo Pe�a has been released along with javier Valentin.

Not much in the way of clues behind either. Valentin had been playing the infield for Buffalo, and had just come off of the DL. Maybe he was unable to catch and when he hadn't recovered his catchiness while recuperating, they cut their losses.

Wily Mo is another case, as he had been hitting. The only clue I have comes from this report on Friday night's game.

In the third inning, Wily Mo Pena blasted had a solo home run that cleared three tiers of outfield signage. In the fifth he was removed from the game after suffering apparent cramps while legging out an infield single.

With no further info, I'm guessing he either (1) became a casualty in the Mets fake war against dogging, or (2) became distraught when Evans got promoted over him and asked for his release, either explictily or through pouting and dogging.

Anyhow, one of the spots goes to Arturo Lopez (real first name: Javier), a lefty reliever from Mexico, picked up on waivers from the Pads.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

"That large man hits balls over fences? He simply clubs them out? Why, that's quite vulgar, and most definitely NOT in the spirit of Metropolitans brand base-ball."

[smg58]

="Edgy DC":3551cmku]Not much in the way of clues behind either. Valentin had been playing the infield for Buffalo, and had just come off of the DL. Maybe he was unable to catch and when he hadn't recovered his catchiness while recuperating, they cut their losses.[/quote:3551cmku] That sounds plausible. It would seem odd at face value to cut their next best catching option after dealing Castro, but if he can't catch then he's not really worth much. And we still have Robinson Cancel in case of an emergency. ="Edgy DC":3551cmku]With no further info, I'm guessing he either (1) became a casualty in the Mets fake war against dogging, or (2) became distraught when Evans got promoted over him and asked for his release, either explictily or through pouting and dogging.[/quote:3551cmku] Well he did beat the throw, so I doubt it had to do with dogging. But I wouldn't put it beyond Pena to take getting passed over on a promotion poorly. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 22 2009 11:06 AM ="smg58":h2tlz1zf] ="Edgy DC":h2tlz1zf]Not much in the way of clues behind either. Valentin had been playing the infield for Buffalo, and had just come off of the DL. Maybe he was unable to catch and when he hadn't recovered his catchiness while recuperating, they cut their losses.[/quote:h2tlz1zf] That sounds plausible. It would seem odd at face value to cut their next best catching option after dealing Castro, but if he can't catch then he's not really worth much. And we still have Robinson Cancel in case of an emergency. ="Edgy DC":h2tlz1zf]With no further info, I'm guessing he either (1) became a casualty in the Mets fake war against dogging, or (2) became distraught when Evans got promoted over him and asked for his release, either explictily or through pouting and dogging.[/quote:h2tlz1zf] Well he did beat the throw, so I doubt it had to do with dogging. But I wouldn't put it beyond Pena to take getting passed over on a promotion poorly.[/quote:h2tlz1zf] Refused assignment with the Nats earlier this year-- it's how he got released. It doesn't seem implausible he signed with the Mets thinking he was 'one away' and felt betrayed in some way when that didn't immediately materialize. (I'm not sure I understand Evans over him, either. Ah, well.) Fman99 Jun 22 2009 12:27 PM Dumb. Like the Mets don't need an OF with pop in his bat. I continue to be mystified by Omar and Jerry and their "boobery" of roster and lineup management. metirish Jun 22 2009 01:25 PM Pena is the kind of player that would thrive under Bobby Valentine , not that that means anything. Just that he reminds me of a Benny Agbayani type. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 22 2009 02:34 PM ="metirish":m03tfpx2]Pena is the kind of player that would thrive under Bobby Valentine , not that that means anything. Just that he reminds me of a Benny Agbayani type.[/quote:m03tfpx2] Except a LOT bigger. He wasn't exactly killing it up north, and is less "outfielder" than "a guy who can fake three OF positions," but he did have a higher home runs/PA (1/30) than half of today's starting lineup, and a three-or-four-year stretch in his recent rearview where he absotively posolutely murdered lefties. Unless he took a bat to somebody or fondled a batboy/girl/dog behind closed doors... I don't get it. Edgy DC Jun 22 2009 09:08 PM And Conor Robertson gets DFA'd. It's a bloodletting up in Buffalo. John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 22 2009 09:19 PM Ike Davis in the meantime was promoted to AA. He was killing it in St. Lucie. He's the LH hitting 1Bman they drafted with their first pick last year. Connor Robertson was Jeff Wilpon's "addition by subtraction" booshit.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

="smg58":h2tlz1zf] ="Edgy DC":h2tlz1zf]Not much in the way of clues behind either. Valentin had been playing the infield for Buffalo, and had just come off of the DL. Maybe he was unable to catch and when he hadn't recovered his catchiness while recuperating, they cut their losses.[/quote:h2tlz1zf] That sounds plausible. It would seem odd at face value to cut their next best catching option after dealing Castro, but if he can't catch then he's not really worth much. And we still have Robinson Cancel in case of an emergency. ="Edgy DC":h2tlz1zf]With no further info, I'm guessing he either (1) became a casualty in the Mets fake war against dogging, or (2) became distraught when Evans got promoted over him and asked for his release, either explictily or through pouting and dogging.[/quote:h2tlz1zf] Well he did beat the throw, so I doubt it had to do with dogging. But I wouldn't put it beyond Pena to take getting passed over on a promotion poorly.[/quote:h2tlz1zf] Refused assignment with the Nats earlier this year-- it's how he got released. It doesn't seem implausible he signed with the Mets thinking he was 'one away' and felt betrayed in some way when that didn't immediately materialize. (I'm not sure I understand Evans over him, either. Ah, well.) Fman99 Jun 22 2009 12:27 PM Dumb. Like the Mets don't need an OF with pop in his bat. I continue to be mystified by Omar and Jerry and their "boobery" of roster and lineup management. metirish Jun 22 2009 01:25 PM Pena is the kind of player that would thrive under Bobby Valentine , not that that means anything. Just that he reminds me of a Benny Agbayani type. LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr Jun 22 2009 02:34 PM ="metirish":m03tfpx2]Pena is the kind of player that would thrive under Bobby Valentine , not that that means anything. Just that he reminds me of a Benny Agbayani type.[/quote:m03tfpx2] Except a LOT bigger. He wasn't exactly killing it up north, and is less "outfielder" than "a guy who can fake three OF positions," but he did have a higher home runs/PA (1/30) than half of today's starting lineup, and a three-or-four-year stretch in his recent rearview where he absotively posolutely murdered lefties. Unless he took a bat to somebody or fondled a batboy/girl/dog behind closed doors... I don't get it. Edgy DC Jun 22 2009 09:08 PM And Conor Robertson gets DFA'd. It's a bloodletting up in Buffalo. John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 22 2009 09:19 PM Ike Davis in the meantime was promoted to AA. He was killing it in St. Lucie. He's the LH hitting 1Bman they drafted with their first pick last year. Connor Robertson was Jeff Wilpon's "addition by subtraction" booshit.

[Fman99]

Dumb. Like the Mets don't need an OF with pop in his bat.

I continue to be mystified by Omar and Jerry and their "boobery" of roster and lineup management.

[metirish]

Pena is the kind of player that would thrive under Bobby Valentine , not that that means anything. Just that he reminds me of a Benny Agbayani type.

[Guest LeiterWagnerFasterStrongr]

="metirish":m03tfpx2]Pena is the kind of player that would thrive under Bobby Valentine , not that that means anything. Just that he reminds me of a Benny Agbayani type.[/quote:m03tfpx2] Except a LOT bigger. He wasn't exactly killing it up north, and is less "outfielder" than "a guy who can fake three OF positions," but he did have a higher home runs/PA (1/30) than half of today's starting lineup, and a three-or-four-year stretch in his recent rearview where he absotively posolutely murdered lefties. Unless he took a bat to somebody or fondled a batboy/girl/dog behind closed doors... I don't get it.

Edgy DC Jun 22 2009 09:08 PM

And Conor Robertson gets DFA'd. It's a bloodletting up in Buffalo.

John Cougar Lunchbucket Jun 22 2009 09:19 PM

Ike Davis in the meantime was promoted to AA. He was killing it in St. Lucie. He's the LH hitting 1Bman they drafted with their first pick last year. Connor Robertson was Jeff Wilpon's "addition by subtraction" booshit.

[Guest Edgy DC]

And Conor Robertson gets DFA'd. It's a bloodletting up in Buffalo.

[Guest John Cougar Lunchbucket]

Ike Davis in the meantime was promoted to AA. He was killing it in St. Lucie.

He's the LH hitting 1Bman they drafted with their first pick last year.

Connor Robertson was Jeff Wilpon's "addition by subtraction" booshit.