Soft Rain Patrol

[Centerfield]

That's right. Lincecum. He's the one that got me started on my tirade last night. When we had to go to Grabow in the middle innings and then they played the Lincecum video game commercial.

[Guest Edgy DC]

="Fman99":1vmjnthj] ="Centerfield":1vmjnthj]I seem to be the only one I know that's a little pissed that we didn't have a deeper pitching staff. I mean, when Oswalt gets knocked around, we don't have anyone better than Josh Grabow? Where's CC Sabathia and AJ Burnett? Or Brad Lidge? Or Cole Hamels coming in to face a lefty.[/quote:1vmjnthj] Tim Lincecum, don't forget. Brandon Webb, Dan Haren, etc. It's part of my beef with this thing... if you're going to send the best hitters we have at least have the pitchers to match. The other teams did, we did not.[/quote:1vmjnthj] I'm disagreeing there. Japan and Korea and Cuba may have, for all I know, but it's pretty easy to take the no-shows for Venezuela, Puerto Rico and the Dominican Republic and assemble a better staff than the one they showed up with. G-Fafif Mar 23 2009 10:02 AM David Wright has played Major League Baseball in New York for 4-1/2 seasons. He's been to the playoffs. He's made three All-Star teams, twice as a starter. He's been on the cover of whichever video game it was, been on magazine covers, done commercials...why on earth would any professional baseball reporter think he needs Derek F. Jeter to mentor him at this stage of his career regarding baseball or how to handle attention? Even looking at it objectively, what kind of BS is that? Benjamin Grimm Mar 23 2009 11:17 AM I agree. It's just nuts. Edgy DC Mar 23 2009 11:21 AM He's the pitchman for Jae Rock Lee, and he don't need anybody to show him how that's done. Benjamin Grimm Mar 23 2009 12:03 PM ="Edgy DC":1kgsf6wz]He's the pitchman for Jae Rock Lee, and he don't need anybody to show him how that's done.[/quote:1kgsf6wz] A featured classic: http://archives.cranepoolforum.net/4000/f1_t4071.shtml Edgy DC Mar 23 2009 12:22 PM Wright passed the two-year mark without jumping on Oprah's couch. At least, you know, not on camera. Edgy DC Mar 26 2009 10:18 PM Allen Barra trying to cope with reality. Trying and failing. http://www.observer.com/2009/time-honesty-about-great-derek-jeter#comment_form dinosaur jesus Mar 26 2009 11:25 PM "Let�s go ahead and say it: no major league team has ever won a pennant with a 35-year-old shortstop." Feel free to say it, but that won't make it true. Major league teams that have won a pennant with a 35-year-old shortstop: Giants, 1905 (Bill Dahlen, 35) White Sox, 1906 (George Davis, 35) Pirates, 1909 (Honus Wagner, 35) Cardinals, 1928 (Rabbit Maranville, 36) Tigers, 1945 (Skeeter Webb, 35) Yankees, 1952 (Phil Rizzuto, 35) Yankees, 1953 (Phil Rizzuto, 36) Dodgers, 1955 (Pee Wee Reese, 36) Dodgers, 1956 (Pee Wee Reese, 37) Braves, 1999 (Walt Weiss, 35, splitting time with Ozzie Guillen, 35) Edgy DC Mar 26 2009 11:50 PM I came up with Rizzuto, Rizzuto, Wagner, and Weiss. Good job. Please send. The problem isn't so much being 35, as that 35 will force you to confront what should have been addressed years ago. You've been oversold. Thing is that he's been an excellent pleyer. G-Fafif Mar 27 2009 05:29 AM Boy, how I'd love to not see Walt Weiss on that list. ]Unfortunately, sportswriters outside New York Jeter may need a bit more. Most baseball analysts I know agree that Jeter should or could have won MVP awards in 1998, 1999, and 2006. That he didn�t probably reflects the rest of the country�s resentment that New York players receive so much national attention (or at any rate, are said to). Yes, it was all anti-New York bias, not the possibility that Juan Gonzalez, Ivan Rodriguez and Joe Mauer helped push less loaded teams over the top and got credit for their accomplishments therein. How come "baseball analysts" are absolutely brilliant and "sportswriters" are a bunch of dumb clucks? Jeter doesn't get enough appreciation from sportswriters? On what planet? Edgy DC Mar 27 2009 06:48 AM Yeah, it's mainstream bias. I've got friends from Pittsburgh and Milwaukee who believed all that intangible shit. And then I schoolded 'em. If the US won the World Baseball Classic, Jeter would have been awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom.

[G-Fafif]

David Wright has played Major League Baseball in New York for 4-1/2 seasons. He's been to the playoffs. He's made three All-Star teams, twice as a starter. He's been on the cover of whichever video game it was, been on magazine covers, done commercials...why on earth would any professional baseball reporter think he needs Derek F. Jeter to mentor him at this stage of his career regarding baseball or how to handle attention? Even looking at it objectively, what kind of BS is that?

[Benjamin Grimm]

I agree. It's just nuts.

[Guest Edgy DC]

He's the pitchman for Jae Rock Lee, and he don't need anybody to show him how that's done.

[Benjamin Grimm]

="Edgy DC":1kgsf6wz]He's the pitchman for Jae Rock Lee, and he don't need anybody to show him how that's done.[/quote:1kgsf6wz] A featured classic: http://archives.cranepoolforum.net/4000/f1_t4071.shtml

Edgy DC Mar 23 2009 12:22 PM

Wright passed the two-year mark without jumping on Oprah's couch. At least, you know, not on camera.

Edgy DC Mar 26 2009 10:18 PM

Allen Barra trying to cope with reality. Trying and failing. http://www.observer.com/2009/time-honesty-about-great-derek-jeter#comment_form

dinosaur jesus Mar 26 2009 11:25 PM

"Let�s go ahead and say it: no major league team has ever won a pennant with a 35-year-old shortstop." Feel free to say it, but that won't make it true. Major league teams that have won a pennant with a 35-year-old shortstop: Giants, 1905 (Bill Dahlen, 35) White Sox, 1906 (George Davis, 35) Pirates, 1909 (Honus Wagner, 35) Cardinals, 1928 (Rabbit Maranville, 36) Tigers, 1945 (Skeeter Webb, 35) Yankees, 1952 (Phil Rizzuto, 35) Yankees, 1953 (Phil Rizzuto, 36) Dodgers, 1955 (Pee Wee Reese, 36) Dodgers, 1956 (Pee Wee Reese, 37) Braves, 1999 (Walt Weiss, 35, splitting time with Ozzie Guillen, 35)

Edgy DC Mar 26 2009 11:50 PM

I came up with Rizzuto, Rizzuto, Wagner, and Weiss. Good job. Please send. The problem isn't so much being 35, as that 35 will force you to confront what should have been addressed years ago. You've been oversold. Thing is that he's been an excellent pleyer.

G-Fafif Mar 27 2009 05:29 AM

Boy, how I'd love to not see Walt Weiss on that list. ]Unfortunately, sportswriters outside New York Jeter may need a bit more. Most baseball analysts I know agree that Jeter should or could have won MVP awards in 1998, 1999, and 2006. That he didn�t probably reflects the rest of the country�s resentment that New York players receive so much national attention (or at any rate, are said to). Yes, it was all anti-New York bias, not the possibility that Juan Gonzalez, Ivan Rodriguez and Joe Mauer helped push less loaded teams over the top and got credit for their accomplishments therein. How come "baseball analysts" are absolutely brilliant and "sportswriters" are a bunch of dumb clucks? Jeter doesn't get enough appreciation from sportswriters? On what planet?

Edgy DC Mar 27 2009 06:48 AM

Yeah, it's mainstream bias. I've got friends from Pittsburgh and Milwaukee who believed all that intangible shit. And then I schoolded 'em. If the US won the World Baseball Classic, Jeter would have been awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Wright passed the two-year mark without jumping on Oprah's couch.

At least, you know, not on camera.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Allen Barra trying to cope with reality.

Trying and failing.

http://www.observer.com/2009/time-honesty-about-great-derek-jeter#comment_form

[dinosaur jesus]

"Let�s go ahead and say it: no major league team has ever won a pennant with a 35-year-old shortstop."

Feel free to say it, but that won't make it true. Major league teams that have won a pennant with a 35-year-old shortstop:

Giants, 1905 (Bill Dahlen, 35)
White Sox, 1906 (George Davis, 35)
Pirates, 1909 (Honus Wagner, 35)
Cardinals, 1928 (Rabbit Maranville, 36)
Tigers, 1945 (Skeeter Webb, 35)
Yankees, 1952 (Phil Rizzuto, 35)
Yankees, 1953 (Phil Rizzuto, 36)
Dodgers, 1955 (Pee Wee Reese, 36)
Dodgers, 1956 (Pee Wee Reese, 37)
Braves, 1999 (Walt Weiss, 35, splitting time with Ozzie Guillen, 35)

[Guest Edgy DC]

I came up with Rizzuto, Rizzuto, Wagner, and Weiss. Good job. Please send.

The problem isn't so much being 35, as that 35 will force you to confront what should have been addressed years ago. You've been oversold.

Thing is that he's been an excellent pleyer.

[G-Fafif]

Boy, how I'd love to not see Walt Weiss on that list.

]Unfortunately, sportswriters outside New York Jeter may need a bit more. Most baseball analysts I know agree that Jeter should or could have won MVP awards in 1998, 1999, and 2006. That he didn�t probably reflects the rest of the country�s resentment that New York players receive so much national attention (or at any rate, are said to).

Yes, it was all anti-New York bias, not the possibility that Juan Gonzalez, Ivan Rodriguez and Joe Mauer helped push less loaded teams over the top and got credit for their accomplishments therein.

How come "baseball analysts" are absolutely brilliant and "sportswriters" are a bunch of dumb clucks? Jeter doesn't get enough appreciation from sportswriters? On what planet?

[Guest Edgy DC]

Yeah, it's mainstream bias. I've got friends from Pittsburgh and Milwaukee who believed all that intangible shit.

And then I schoolded 'em.

If the US won the World Baseball Classic, Jeter would have been awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom.