Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted November 1, 2008 Posted November 1, 2008 I'm not sure that this is official, but "according to documents obtained by SI.com" Jon Heyman's column lists the following FA types as determined by the Elias Bureau:Type A - Team receives (subject to arb procedures) a draft pick from the signing team + a supplemental pickBobby AbreuDoug BrocailA.J. BurnettPat BurrellOrlando Cabrera* Juan CruzRyan Dempster* Adam Dunn* Brian FuentesBrian GilesTrevor HoffmanBobby Howry* Orlando Hudson* Raul Ibanez* Derek LoweDamaso MarteJamie MoyerMike MussinaDarren OliverOliver PerezAndy Pettitte* Manny RamirezEdgar Renteria* Francisco RodriguezCC SabathiaBen SheetsRuss Springer* Mark TeixeiraJason Varitek* Kerry WoodType B - Losing team receives Supplemental pick* Jeremy AffeldtMoises AlouGarret AndersonLuis AyalaJoe Beimel* Casey BlakeMilton BradleyPaul ByrdMike CameronAlan EmbreeEric GagneJon GarlandLuis GonzalezKen GriffeyMark GrudzielanekLaTroy HawkinsJason IsringhausenRandy JohnsonJeff KentPaul LoDucaBraden LooperMark LorettaBrandon LyonGreg MadduxBrad PennyDenny ReyesArthur RhodesIvan RodriguezRudy SeanezBrian ShouseJohn SmoltzFrank ThomasSalomon TorresJuan UribeDavid WeathersRandy WolfGregg Zaun.* = rumored or possible NYM interest
Guest Edgy DC Guests Posted November 1, 2008 Posted November 1, 2008 When Sports Illustrated signed Jon Heyman in 2006, do you think Newsday demanded any compensation.I'm guessing no.
seawolf17 Old-Timey Member Posted November 1, 2008 Posted November 1, 2008 Heyman was a Type D(umbass) free agent, though, so Newsday had no recourse.
smg58 Old-Timey Member Posted November 1, 2008 Posted November 1, 2008 I'm happy to see that Ollie is Type A. We figure to break even with first round picks.Speaking of which, Juan Cruz pitched 51 innings last year. He'd be the kind of reliever the Mets should avoid anyway, but he's absolutely not worth a first round pick.Not sure what to do about Ayala. Compensation would be nice, but I'm not sure I'd want him taking arbitration to stay here. We'd probably have to pay $2M, which I don't think he's worth.
Gwreck Old-Timey Member Posted November 1, 2008 Posted November 1, 2008 smg58 wrote:Speaking of which, Juan Cruz pitched 51 innings last year. He'd be the kind of reliever the Mets should avoid anyway, but he's absolutely not worth a first round pick.Keep in mind that the compensation rules only apply if the club the player was with offers them arbitration. Ex. we're obviously not offering Moises Alou arbitration, so even if he signs somewhere else, we're not getting a compensation pick.
smg58 Old-Timey Member Posted November 1, 2008 Posted November 1, 2008 That's true, but I was (perhaps mistakenly) assuming the D-Backs would offer. Cruz made only a little more than Ayala ($1.9M), and while he pitched 20 less innings, he did have much better numbers otherwise.
Valadius Old-Timey Member Posted November 1, 2008 Posted November 1, 2008 Someone explain why Doug Brocail is worth Type A compensation.
seawolf17 Old-Timey Member Posted November 1, 2008 Posted November 1, 2008 Valadius wrote:Someone explain why Doug Brocail is worth Type A compensation.Even at 41, Brocail was one of the best middle relievers in the NL last year. I'd take him ahead of anyone in the Mets' bullpen except for Joe Smith.
DocTee Old-Timey Member Posted November 1, 2008 Posted November 1, 2008 Jeremy Affeldt is intriguing. Kind of live arm that Omar is allegedly hot for.
smg58 Old-Timey Member Posted November 1, 2008 Posted November 1, 2008 I like Affeldt too. Lefty workhorses aren't common, plus his HR total would likely go down if he came here.
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted November 1, 2008 Author Posted November 1, 2008 Valadius wrote:Someone explain why Doug Brocail is worth Type A compensation.The rankings are based on old-school style stats accumulated over the last two seasons. So Brocail, despite being about to turn 42, has rung up decent enough WHiPs, ERAs, W-L records and so on in each of the last two years to put him into the top 20% as compared to other relievers.
Valadius Old-Timey Member Posted November 1, 2008 Posted November 1, 2008 Ah. I didn't know they were based on the previous two seasons - I'd thought it was based on the prior season.
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