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Remarkable about David Wright's season is not only his productivity, but continuing to produce in the face of Willie Randolph's workload, a challenge that can speculatively blamed in part for Jose Reyes' second-half slump. He's played 97.59% of the Mets innings at third this season, while Reyes has heroically clocked 98.54% of the shorty innings.

Wright is now on his way to one of the most productive batting seasons in Met history, as measured by my favorited quick metric (OPS+ - 60) * PA.

I'm not measuring defensive contribution here nor baserunning contribution, but likely these two would be a net plus with Wright, despite his annoying ninth-inning yips. He's currently sneaking up on the great outlier, Bernard Gilkey's 1996.

He'd nonetheless have to go quite nuts to join his batting coach as the only Mets every to rack up 70,000 EBM points.

Go, Davey, go.

RankPlayerSeasonOPS+PAEBM
1Howard Johnson198916965571,395
2John Olerud199816366568,495
3Darryl Strawberry198816564067,200
4Darryl Strawberry198716264065,280
Proj.David Wright200715270664,974
5Bernard Gilkey199615765663,632
6David Wright200715266761,364
7Edgardo Alfonzo200015065058,500
8Carlos Beltran200615361757,381
9Howard Johnson199114565855,930
10Keith Hernandez198414365754,531
11Mike Piazza200015954553,955
12Keith Hernandez198614165252,812
13Lee Mazzilli197913569351,975
14Todd Hundley199614362451,792
15Mike Piazza200115057351,570
16John Olerud199913172351,333
17David Wright200513865751,246
18Cleon Jones196915155850,778
19David Wright200613666150,236
20Gary Carter198513963350,007


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As stated, (OPS+ - 60) * PA.

Edgy Batting Metric.

You can prove anything as long as you make up your own stat.


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why -60? why not -80? (which is what i've been told "replacement level" is)
otherwise the concept is a good one


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I've understood 60. If 80, EBM is a lie.


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How does that translate into MVP voting? Sporadically.

RankPlayerSeasonOPS+PAEBMMVP RankMVP Share
1Howard Johnson198916965571,39550.46
2John Olerud199816366568,495120.08
3Darryl Strawberry198816564067,20020.70
4Darryl Strawberry198716264065,28060.28
Proj.David Wright200715270664,974----
5Bernard Gilkey199615765663,632140.03
6David Wright200715266761,364----
7Edgardo Alfonzo200015065058,500150.01
8Carlos Beltran200615361757,38140.47
9Howard Johnson199114565855,93050.33
10Keith Hernandez198414365754,53120.58
11Mike Piazza200015954553,95530.60
12Keith Hernandez198614165252,81240.53
13Lee Mazzilli197913569351,975----
14Todd Hundley199614362451,792180.02
15Mike Piazza200115057351,570130.03
16John Olerud199913172351,333----
17David Wright200513865751,246190.04
18Cleon Jones196915155850,77870.24
19David Wright200613666150,23690.16
20Gary Carter198513963350,00760.35


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Edgy DC wrote:
I've understood 60. If 80, EBM is a lie.


Yeah, but not of the evil, pernicious type. The difference in rank isn't great (not posting the table so as to save some space here). All else equal, using 80 gives less weight to PA and more to OPS+, so it generally helps the catchers a bit.

I checked quickly and didn't see any other seasons that would get into the top 20 if OPS+ - 80 replaces OPS+ - 60.


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if an OPS+ of 80 is replacement level, then paul loduca is just barely above replacement, and jose valentin just barely below (82 and 78 OPS+ respectively, as of today's bbref stats).

if an OPS+ of 60 is replacement level, then julio franco is replacement (OPS+ of 59).

the latter feels more right.

oe: a quick crosscheck between baseball prospectus (for which this season it appears as if a 0.230 EQA is replacement level) and baseballreference, and it looks like about a 67 (up to maybe 71) OPS+ is replacement level this year.

so stephen drew, marcus giles, and brad ausmus, to name a few, are your example replacements.


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I'm going with 60. That's what you find on the waiver wire.


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Babe Ruth, for comparison, had nine seasons over 100,000, despite this being a cumulative statistic, and him playing a shorter season.

He had three over 120,000!

In 1918, he played in 95 games for Boston, still pitching in 20, 19 as a starter, and spending part-time duty as an outfielder and firstbaseman. By this metric, those 95 games would be better than all but 17 seasons had by any Mets player.


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Edgy DC wrote:
... Willie Randolph's workload, a challenge that can speculatively blamed in part for Jose Reyes' second-half slump...


I thought I was the only one.


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For those of us hopelessly mired in the mid-20th Century...

I actually do know what OPS is. And I can figure out the last part as divided by Plate Appearances. But what is plus or minus 60? Or 80?


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OPS+ is a players OPS over the league average OPS (or in the NL, the league average not including pitchers), multiplied by 100. An OPS of 150 is 50% higher than the league average.

Sixty is subtracted because an OPS+ of 60 can be said (there's some disagreement in this thread) to be typical of a replacement player, the level of player you can grab off the waiver wire.


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Through 155 games, he inches closer.

The protracted division race doesn't allow him to get the rest he needs, but it does allow him to garner more EBM points.

He's now projecting toward the third best EBM season ever.

RankPlayerSeasonOPS+PAEBM
1Howard Johnson198916965571,395
2John Olerud199816366568,495
3Darryl Strawberry198816564067,200
Proj.David Wright200715370965,937
4Darryl Strawberry198716264065,280
5Bernard Gilkey199615765663,632
6David Wright200715367863,054
7Edgardo Alfonzo200015065058,500
8Carlos Beltran200615361757,381
9Howard Johnson199114565855,930
10Keith Hernandez198414365754,531
11Mike Piazza200015954553,955
12Keith Hernandez198614165252,812
13Lee Mazzilli197913569351,975
14Todd Hundley199614362451,792
15Mike Piazza200115057351,570
16John Olerud199913172351,333
17David Wright200513865751,246
18Cleon Jones196915155850,778
19David Wright200613666150,236
20Gary Carter198513963350,007


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How awesome was HoJo '89 that he remained so unapproached by his MVP-chasing protege?

RankPlayerSeasonOPS+PAEBM
1Howard Johnson198916965571,395
2John Olerud199816366568,495
3Darryl Strawberry198816564067,200
4David Wright200715271165,412
5Darryl Strawberry198716264065,280
6Bernard Gilkey199615765663,632
7Edgardo Alfonzo200015065058,500
8Carlos Beltran200615361757,381
9Howard Johnson199114565855,930
10Keith Hernandez198414365754,531
11Mike Piazza200015954553,955
12Keith Hernandez198614165252,812
13Lee Mazzilli197913569351,975
14Todd Hundley199614362451,792
15Mike Piazza200115057351,570
16John Olerud199913172351,333
17David Wright200513865751,246
18Cleon Jones196915155850,778
19David Wright200613666150,236
20Gary Carter198513963350,007


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