Guest Rockin' Doc Guests Posted June 27, 2007 Posted June 27, 2007 Okay, with the All Star game looming on the horizon, let's see your ballot for each league.
Guest Rockin' Doc Guests Posted June 27, 2007 Posted June 27, 2007 I'll start it off. Here is my ballot:American League1st - K. Youkilis - BOS (Write in vote)2nd - B. Roberts - BALSS - C. Guillen - DET3rd - A. Rodriguez - NYYC - J. Posada - NYY (It seriously pains me to vote for 2 of George's evil minions)OF - M. Ordonez - DETOF - I. Suzuki - SEAOF - V. Guerrero - LAANational League1st - P. Fielder - MIL2nd - C. Utley - PHISS - J. Reyes - NYM3rd - M. Cabrerra - FLA (My heart says Wright, but my brain and the stats say Cabrerra)C - R. Martin - LADOF - M. Holliday - COLOF - C. Lee - HOUOF - E. Byrnes - ARZ
Guest OlerudOwned Guests Posted June 27, 2007 Posted June 27, 2007 I thought you were kidding about Byrnes for a minute, but holy crap, he's having a great season. I haven't heard a peep about him this year.
Guest Edgy DC Guests Posted June 27, 2007 Posted June 27, 2007 I think voting based on numbers should also consider the second half of last year.
Elster88 Old-Timey Member Posted June 27, 2007 Posted June 27, 2007 Edgy DC wrote:I think voting based on numbers should also consider the second half of last year.DisagreeWould I be wrong to infer that you mean to say that voting that is not based on numbers should not consider the second half of last year?
Guest Edgy DC Guests Posted June 27, 2007 Posted June 27, 2007 Well, voting that's not based on numbers should start by considering numbers.
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted June 27, 2007 Posted June 27, 2007 C - Russell Martin1B - Prince Fielder2B - Chase UtleySS - Jose Reyes3B - Miguel CabreraLF - Matt HollidayCF - Aaron RowlandRF - Ken GriffeyC - Jorge Posada1B - Kevin Youkilis2B - Brian RobertsSS - Carlos Guillen3B - Alex RodriguezLF - Manny RamirezCF - Torii HunterRF - Magglio Ordonez
nymr83 Old-Timey Member Posted June 27, 2007 Posted June 27, 2007 NLC Martin1B Fielder2B Utley3B CabreraSS ReyesOF Griffey, Holliday, Dunn
Gwreck Old-Timey Member Posted June 27, 2007 Posted June 27, 2007 [u:1f9c9093ec]American League[/u:1f9c9093ec]C - Victor Martinez, CLE1B - Mark Texieria, TEX2B - Placido Polanco, DET3B - Alex Rodriguez, NYYSS - Carlos Guillen, DETOF - Magglio Ordonez, DETOF - Vladimir Guerrero, LAAOF - Torii Hunter, MINSP - Dan Haren, OAK[u:1f9c9093ec]National League[/u:1f9c9093ec]C - Russell Martin, LAD1B - Prince Fielder, MIL2B - Chase Utley, PHI3B - Miguel Cabrera, FLASS - Jose Reyes, NYMOF - Matt Holliday, COLOF - Ken Griffey Jr., CINOF - Alfonso Soriano, CHCSP - Jake Peavy, SD
TransMonk Old-Timey Member Posted June 27, 2007 Posted June 27, 2007 NATIONALC Russell Martin LAD1B Prince Fielder MIL2B Chase Utley PHISS Jose Reyes NYM3B Miguel Cabrera FLAOF Matt Holiday COLOF Eric Byrnes ARIOF Ken Griffey Jr. CINAMERICANC Victor Martinez CLE1B Kevin Youkilis BOS2B Brian Roberts BALSS Derek Jeter NYY3B Alex Rodriguez NYYOF Magglio Ordonez DETOF Vladimir Guerrero LAAOF Ichiro Suzuki SEA
nymr83 Old-Timey Member Posted June 27, 2007 Posted June 27, 2007 we seem to have across the board agreement in the NL at C, 1B, 2B, 3B, SS, and on Holliday in the outfield (with near unanimity on Griffey, only 1 person didn't select him) But we've got no agreement on that 3rd outfielder- Byrnes, Soriano, Dunn, Rowand, Lee each got a vote (with Byrnes getting a 2nd one from the one guy against Griffey) anyone care to argue their guy?the numbers through the end of play yesterday:(Name, games/PA, BA/OBP/SLG, HR/RBI/R, SB/CS, OPS+)Byrnes 78/342 .312/.363/.516 13/43/48 14/5 124Dunn 75/310 .271/.361/.569 21/50/50 7/2 135Lee 77/335 .291/.340/.510 14/62/42 4/4 121Rowand 76/321 .313/.392/.482 10/39/47 4/1 129Soriano 70/325 .309/.357/.558 15/30/51 10/3 135
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted June 28, 2007 Posted June 28, 2007 I wanted to go specifically with a Left, Center, and Right fielder.Not everyone did that and the voting process certainly doesn't require it, but I like to think of how I'd want a real All-Star OF to look and, while you can make an argument for each of them individually, a trio like Dunn, Carlos Lee, and Soriano would be one brutal OF.
Guest Johnny Dickshot Guests Posted June 28, 2007 Posted June 28, 2007 I must have missed where on the ballot Granderson is listed but he does it all -- hits, runs, fields. So does Sizemore. Wanted also to write in Carlos Pena at first base but the internet gives me only one writein per ballot.I threw Nady a vote in the NL outfield because its a pretty weak crop overall, Nady's having a good year, and I feel like we still owe him one. Go, X!Oh, and Wright over Cabrera due to the fact that Cabrera appears to be a major dick.First Base: Morneau, J., MINSecond Base: Polanco, P., DETThird Base: Rodriguez, A., NYYShortstop: Guillen, C., DETCatcher: Martinez, V., CLEOutfielder: Guerrero, V., LAAOutfielder: Sizemore, G., CLEOutfielder: Write-in: Curtis Granderson First Base: Fielder, P., MILSecond Base: Utley, C., PHIThird Base: Wright, D., NYMShortstop: Reyes, J., NYMCatcher: Martin, R., LADOutfielder: Griffey Jr., K., CINOutfielder: Holliday, M., COLOutfielder: Nady, X., PIT
Guest Edgy DC Guests Posted June 28, 2007 Posted June 28, 2007 Yeah, but I thought Wright was so neato that he's always a potential dick.Really, there's something that makes me feel like it's 1978 all over again when I see names like "Curtis Granderson" and "Grady Sizemore" on ballots. Those names are so old school that I can smell the blacktop and hear the school bell.
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted June 30, 2007 Posted June 30, 2007 A quick stab at the pitching staffs. They're gonna take more relievers than what I'm showing, but I like rewarding the starters more.AL:Danny Haren - OakJohan Santana - MinnJohn Lackey - LAAJosh Beckett - BostJustin Verlander - DetCC Sabathia - ClevD. Matsuzaka - BostJames Shields - TBF. Rodriguez - LAAJJ Putz - SeaJonathan Papelbon - Bos NL:Brad Penny - LADChris Young - SDJake Peavy - SDJohn Maine - MetsJohn Smotlz - AtlDerrick Lowe - LADTim Hudson - AtlBen Sheets - MilwBilly Wagner - MetsTakashi Saito - LADTrevor Hoffman - SD
Guest Edgy DC Guests Posted June 30, 2007 Posted June 30, 2007 So, is Hoffman getting the Commissioner's Game-Stopping Award for Outstanding Performance in the Field of Excellence this year?By all rights, it should go to Bonds, with the hometown flavor thing and all. But they may decide Bonds has forfeited his rights. If they stop the game to give it to some other schmoe, though, the story of the implied disrespect will overshadow that of the game itself.That's what we've got to see. The All Star game is always about soap opera.
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted June 30, 2007 Posted June 30, 2007 Hey, Hoffman's saved 22 of 24, with a 2.10 ERA and a 0.83 WHiP.Including him is no charity case.
Guest attgig Guests Posted June 30, 2007 Posted June 30, 2007 1st - P. Fielder - MIL2nd - C. Utley - PHISS - J. Reyes - NYM3rd - M. CabrerraC - R. Martin - LADOF - M. Holliday - COLOF - C. Lee - HOUOF - K. Griffey - CIN
Guest Edgy DC Guests Posted June 30, 2007 Posted June 30, 2007 Frayed Knot wrote:Hey, Hoffman's saved 22 of 24, with a 2.10 ERA and a 0.83 WHiP.Including him is no charity case.I certainly in no way meant to suggest as such.I just meant to speculate on whether the award would continue and who will get it if does.Moments of silence for Hancock and Beck?
nymr83 Old-Timey Member Posted June 30, 2007 Posted June 30, 2007 they can give it to Hoffman over Bonds because he's set his record while Bonds isn't there (yet.) Has Hoffman said anything about this being his final season? "definite" retirement plans would help justify it too.
Guest Edgy DC Guests Posted June 30, 2007 Posted June 30, 2007 It didn't stop them from giving one to Clemens.Hometowniness is also a key, with past winners including Clemens in Houston and Roberto Freaking Clemente in Pittsburgh.
Frayed Knot Old-Timey Member Posted June 30, 2007 Posted June 30, 2007 It's like the best way to get an Oscar:1) Do a movie2) Announce that you're dying.Unfortunately, it's a ploy that only works once.
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