2007 Pitching Rotation Hot Stove Conversation

[Guest Rockin' Doc]

How's about we try not to sign someone that historically breaks down for extended periods each season. I would rather they sign Zito or Schmidt. Hell, I'd rather the Mets sign Mussina than take a flyer on Wood.

[metirish]

But my point is that Peterson can fix his mechanics...I imagine he'd be not that expensive to sign..this rotation needs some hard throwers to complement the nibblers....

[Guest Edgy DC]

I think the Mets might rather take a good look at Wood.

I think they showed something this year --- a organization that can back up their pitchers with redundancy can better afford high-risk-high-reward guys like Pedro, Zambrano, and Oliver Perez.

[metirish]

I have great faith in Peterson..i think he can turn Wood into what he should be..a 20 game winner...

[nymr83]

Edgy DC wrote: I think the Mets might rather take a good look at Wood. I think they showed something this year --- a organization that can back up their pitchers with redundancy can better afford high-risk-high-reward guys like Pedro, Zambrano, and Oliver Perez.

Zambrano is high-risk-no-reward.

i wouldn't mind acquiring Wood for the same reasons as Edgy though. this team doesn't need more #3-4 starters, i'll take the guy with the potential to be a #1-2 and the downside of getting hurt alot over the "gauranteed" #3-4.

[Guest cleonjones11]

Edgy DC wrote: I think the Mets might rather take a good look at Wood. I think they showed something this year --- a organization that can back up their pitchers with redundancy can better afford high-risk-high-reward guys like Pedro, Zambrano, and Oliver Perez.

Kerry Wood might have to do smithers rehab first.

Does anyone think Pedro may actually be finished? 2 bad wheels, a toe and a rotator cuff at age 35.....

Oliver Perez might work out. We LOVED Bannister til the injury..why not now? Pelfrey...Humber 2 years from surgery....Play the hand we have and add Zito or Dontrelle Willis which I don't see Florida doing personally...

We'll be fine...

[Guest Yancy Street Gang]

I think Pedro will pitch again, so I don't think he's completely finished.

But you're right, it's possible that he'll never again be what he was.

I'd rather not think along those lines, though.

The Mets have to make a rotation for 2007 that doesn't include Pedro, and then if he comes back and pitches effectively, it's a mid-year bonus.

[nymr83]

] We LOVED Bannister til the injury..why not now?

i never loved Bannister, even when he was winning he was loading the bases seemingly every other inning. with all the baserunners he allowed it would have all come crashing down on him if he hadn't gotten hurt.

[Guest Johnny Dickshot]

yah, I wasn't sliding down the Bannister either. I wouldn't completely reject the guy but his stuff is only so good.

And you can only have so much faith in El Duque. I like him on his good days but pencil in a few horrendous outings too.

[Valadius]

Pedro is in no way finished. He's got at least another solid year left in him, probably two.

[Guest Yancy Street Gang]

Hopefully. But we really can't be sure of that until he pitches again.

[Guest Yancy Street Gang]

Good news for Willets:

] New York Daily News - http://www.nydailynews.com Glavine likes Mets' pitch BY ADAM RUBIN DAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITER Wednesday, November 1st, 2006 TOKYO - Not only does Tom Glavine appear poised to remain a Met, he apparently intends to pitch in Flushing through the 2008 season. Glavine and the Mets are deep in discussions about a two-year, $25 million contract that should be completed shortly, a source told the Daily News. When Glavine cleaned out his locker the day after the Mets' Game 7 ouster in the NLCS, he indicated his family's preference would be the primary factor in whether he remained a Met or returned to the Braves. Signing with Atlanta would allow Glavine to be near his wife, Christine, and his two sons at his home in Alpharetta, Ga. "The only reason, really, that it's even a question is my family," Glavine said Oct. 20. Glavine also suggested that day that '07 would be his final season, provided he notched 10 more victories and reached the 300 plateau. However, one other factor has since surfaced and appears to have altered the southpaw's mindset. Glavine, who has shared a stage with John Smoltz and Greg Maddux throughout their distinguished major-league careers, would prefer not to enter the Hall of Fame in the same class as Maddux, according to a source. Maddux figures to retire after the '07 season, meaning Glavine would need to pitch through '08 to ensure they are in separate classes if both are elected on the first ballot. For that reason, along with his rebirth as a pitcher, Glavine appears intent on pitching two more seasons as he nears his 41st birthday during spring training. The Mets and Glavine each had options for the '07 season, but both sides had always portrayed the situation as a two-step partnership: First, Glavine would decide whether he wanted to return. Then the team and Glavine's agents would work out a contract somewhere between the figures. In mid-January, Glavine agreed to defer $3 million from his $10.5 million salary for '06. In turn, the sides added a pair of options - a team option for '07 that totals $14 million, and a player option that totals $7.5 million, with $3 million paid as a lump sum if neither is exercised. Glavine is 48-48 with a 3.85 ERA in four seasons as a Met. He went 15-7 with a 3.82 ERA in 198 innings this past season. He also contributed 13 scoreless innings over his first two postseason starts, against the Dodgers and Cardinals. The two-time Cy Young Award winner overcame an August scare that stemmed from coldness in his left ring finger. Glavine was able to treat that clotting condition that originated in his left shoulder with baby aspirin. The Mets desperately wanted Glavine to return, especially minus Pedro Martinez for at least the first half of the 2007 season following rotator cuff surgery. "I think he's very important as far as the leadership of our staff - especially if you're not going to have someone like a Pedro until later on - with some of the young players who might step in and maybe take over a spot in the rotation," Willie Randolph said.

[Guest Edgy DC]

]two-year, $25 million

A lot of clams for the elderly.

[metirish]

Omar must want him as a coach after his done playing...

[Elster88]

I'm fine with it, as long as the money doesn't keep him the Mets from signing other players. I like pitching as much as I like pretty ladies.

[soupcan]

You know though - as much as ther's this supposed 'resurgence' to Glavine's career, we all know he didn't really pitch that great.

At 42 years old is he really go to be worth $12.5 mil? I don't think so.

I suppose if the Mets have the scratch to do it then at the least he becomes insurance.

[metirish]

What I don't get is why he would rather not enter the HOF the same year as Maddox, are they not tight or what?

[Guest patona314]

wasn't glavine's "met" option for $14M?. if so, the mets save 1.5 for 07.

[Guest Yancy Street Gang]

I'd guess that Glavine is tired of being overshadowed by Maddux. I wouldn't be suprised that if Jerry Koosman had been elected to the Hall of Fame, he'd prefer that his acceptance speech wasn't the opening act for Seaver's.

[Guest patona314]

Edgy DC wrote: I think the Mets might rather take a good look at Wood. I think they showed something this year --- a organization that can back up their pitchers with redundancy can better afford high-risk-high-reward guys like Pedro, Zambrano, and Oliver Perez.

Wood is coming back next year as a closer

[Frayed Knot]

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[Willets Point]

Yancy Street Gang wrote: Good news for Willets:

Why? I'm not the one getting $25 million.

[Guest Yancy Street Gang]

I figured you'd be happy for Glavine.

[Willets Point]

Rats, I thought maybe there was a clause in his contract I could profit from.

[Guest Yancy Street Gang]

I haven't read the fine print yet, so don't give up hope.

I think there may be a clause that you get poppy-seed rolls with Glavine's face on them delivered to your door every Sunday morning.

[metirish]

] Heilman on Cubs' radar By Paul Sullivan Tribune staff reporter October 31, 2006, 9:30 PM CST Carlos Zambrano and Rich Hill appear to be the only two certainties for the Cubs rotation next spring, so general manager Jim Hendry is likely looking to fill three spots this winter. Hendry will try to bring in one or two front-line starters through free agency or via the Japanese market, but sources indicate the Cubs also may get involved in trade talks with the New York Mets in hopes of acquiring right-hander Aaron Heilman. If the Cubs nab Heilman, he would be given a chance to earn the fifth starter's spot in spring training, along with veteran Wade Miller, whom the Cubs hope to re-sign. Mark Prior's uncertain status will force the Cubs to go to spring training with a surplus of starting pitching candidates. Heilman, a Notre Dame graduate who turns 28 this month, is a former starter in New York who went 4-5 with a 3.62 earned-run average in relief this season. He's 12-18 in his career with a 4.34 ERA and 252 strikeouts in 2881/3 innings. Heilman served up the game-winning home run to St. Louis' Yadier Molina in Game 7 of the National League Championship Series and may be used as trade bait this off-season, according to a New York Times report. Heilman was rumored to be part of a multiplayer package two years ago in a proposed Cubs-Mets trade involving Sammy Sosa. Mets ownership ultimately shot down the deal because it wanted no part of Sosa, who was traded to Baltimore.

[Guest Edgy DC]

It's pretty funny that Rubin's story is filed from Tokyo, presumably with none of the key figures from the story in Tokyo.

Is his source Julio Franco or John Maine?

[metirish]

] Is his source Julio Franco or John Maine?

Tony Bernazard is on the trip, maybe he's the source.

[Willets Point]

Yancy Street Gang wrote: I haven't read the fine print yet, so don't give up hope. I think there may be a clause that you get poppy-seed rolls with Glavine's face on them delivered to your door every Sunday morning.

Yum!

[MFS62]

Ok, so, Zambrano and Hill are off the table?
Who else on the Cubs would the Mets want to fill a current need?
Izturis?
Jacque Jones?
I'm not sure if they're free agents or not.

] 40-Man Roster Pitchers 54 David Aardsma 46 Ryan Dempster 47 Scott Eyre 37 Angel Guzman * -- Adam Harben 53 Rich Hill 62 Bob Howry 49 Carlos Marmol 45 Sean Marshall 51 Juan Mateo 52 Wade Miller 44 Roberto Novoa 48 Ryan O'Malley 13 Will Ohman 22 Mark Prior 33 Glendon Rusch 20 Jae Kuk Ryu * 34 Kerry Wood 60-day Disabled List 43 Michael Wuertz 38 Carlos Zambrano Catchers B/T Ht Wt DOB 8 Michael Barrett 24 Henry Blanco 61 Jose Reyes (obviously another one) 58 Geovany Soto Infielders 5 Ronny Cedeno * 56 Brian Dopirak 3 Cesar Izturis 25 Derrek Lee 15 Scott Moore 16 Aramis Ramirez 7 Ryan Theriot Outfielders 4 Freddie Bynum 30 Buck Coats 11 Jacque Jones 17 John Mabry 19 Matt Murton * -- Miguel Negron 29 Angel Pagan * 68 Felix Pie 9 Juan Pierre * Not on Active Roster

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