IGT 06/17, Orioles at Mets

[Guest Edgy DC]

Could reallly use Cliffy's bat here.

[Elster88]

No doubles defense keeps the right fielder from catching that foul ball.

I never really understood no doubles defense. In some cases it doesn't seem to work to me. But I may be missing something.

[Elster88]

Poop.

On a stick.

[nymr83]

Elster88 wrote: No doubles defense keeps the right fielder from catching that foul ball. I never really understood no doubles defense. In some cases it doesn't seem to work to me. But I may be missing something.

if franco doubles the mets are a hit away from tying it, if franco is held to a single they are likely two hits away from tying it, thus the orioles are willing to increase his chance of a hit to lessen the chance of a double...

i'm not sure if it works or not because there has probably never been a study of batting average and percentage of hits for extra bases against a "no doubles defense" to see if it is mathematically sound, but thats the theory behind it at least.

[Guest Johnny Dickshot]

Well, Omar had this coming.

And that thread! It's one thing to talk about the playoffs in June -- too forward looking, sure, but I coulkd see it the way things were going. But to erase it because of superstitions only lends them legitimacy. We're doomed people. Doomed.

Not for nothing but Triple Happiness got F'ed with a while back and we didn;t have one for 2 months.

Really disappointing to play like we have these last two days. Bleh.

[Guest Iubitul]

It could have been worse - they didn't lose any ground...

[Elster88]

Nymr83 wrote: ="Elster88"]No doubles defense keeps the right fielder from catching that foul ball. I never really understood no doubles defense. In some cases it doesn't seem to work to me. But I may be missing something. if franco doubles the mets are a hit away from tying it....

No, no, I understand the theory. But if your goal is to keep the Mets from scoring runs, why wouldn't you play the same defense you usually play to keep them from scoring runs?

As seen in this game, Franco's foul ball was almost a double and would've been caught if the right fielder was positioned normally.

[Guest Johnny Dickshot]

Because you're not defending against foul balls but doubles.

[nymr83]

]No, no, I understand the theory. But if your goal is to keep the Mets from scoring runs, why wouldn't you play the same defense you usually play to keep them from scoring runs?

because your normal defense isn't set up to prevent the mets from scoring one run, it is setup to minimize the risk of a big inning. when you bring the infield in, bring the outfielders in, or back the outfielders up from "normal" depth you are theoretically increasing the chances of a big inning while decreasing the chances of one run scoring

again, i have no idea if it actually works out that way, but thats the idea

[Elster88]

Johnny Dickshot wrote: Because you're not defending against foul balls but doubles.

That's not what I was getting at.

Never mind.

[stevejrogers]

OlerudOwned wrote: Benson just homered. Kris Benson. That Kris Benson. Tie game.

That deflated the crowd, REAL badly, it remained cool the rest of the night

[stevejrogers]

Johnny Dickshot wrote: Well, Omar had this coming. And that thread! It's one thing to talk about the playoffs in June -- too forward looking, sure, but I coulkd see it the way things were going. But to erase it because of superstitions only lends them legitimacy. We're doomed people. Doomed.

Hey, KC shamed me into Avi-ing the darn thing allright. I thought it'd be best let it die with a . rather than keep the chance that it stuck around on the first few pages

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