Mets @ Braves, Labor Day 05

[Guest Spacemans Bong]

Willie Randolph might be the worst manager I have ever seen. He is actually worse than Grady Little.

[Guest KC]

Zvon looking pretty smart as Chipper goes yard for a two run dinger.

Crapfart

Shitstain

Assdick

[Zvon]

UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHH

see?

i feel sick.

Chipper Jones hits a monster 2 run homer to center.

criiiiiipes

[willpie]

Fuck Chipper fucking Jones. Just... fuck him. Fuck him with knives.

[Zvon]

Spacemans Bong wrote: Willie Randolph might be the worst manager I have ever seen. He is actually worse than Grady Little.

lol..............Bret may agree with something posted.

Mark the date.

[Zvon]

willpie wrote: Fuck Chipper fucking Jones. Just... fuck him. Fuck him with knives.

dull knives so it hurts even worse.

Yikes, Reyes makes an error on the other jones.
Tuff call, but he shouldna fielded that.

[Zvon]

with all the ruckus we fail to note hernandez has taken over (for those reading at a later time).

Good job by the old man. Stops the bleeding.

Unless the Mets hit up a lil storm here, it may be too little too late.

Please forgive me, but i must whip out the 2 demensional rally guys.
UNITE AND ASSEMBLE METROPOLITAN LUMBER!!!!!!!

[Guest KC]

Mets down to their last three outs.

Marlon
Jose
Kaz

[Guest KC]

Fist pumpin' Farnsworth prevails a lead-off single by Marlon.

Braves 4, Mets 2

[DocTee]

]Let's just face it: Beltran sucks. he aint livin up to his contract, but Im not the one payin him.

Yes you are-- inflated ticket prices, parking and concessions go towards paying the moled one's contract.

[Guest Spacemans Bong]

[Elster88]

Baseball makes me sad.
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[Elster88]

Actually, Spaceman, I'll bet Bobby Bo had a better first season with the Mets than Beltran has had. So be fair to Bobby.
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[DocTee]

Beltran makes me mad.

[Guest Johnny Dickshot]

Let's not pretend the failure to win here had anything to do with Willie Randolph.

[Zvon]

okay.
its official.

beltran does suck.

he looks at the fattest pitch of the day for a called strike and then swings at two untouchables.

That was painful to watch.

Another game the mets should have won and could have been played differently.

Any other team in the hunt, in the situation we were in, would have gone to an 8th inning set up man there. Esp to get a fresh arm vs. the Jones's.
Trash aint no 25 yr old pitcher, and Willie stayed with him too long.

I know it would be economical,playing a tie game, to try to make him last until his hitting slot comes up, but this aint April (and this aint EAmvpBASEBALL-the video game i play) and you have to do things at this time of the year a lil differently, and use what you have while you are in it, and pay the price tomorrow, if you must pay a price at all.

i dont understand why you bring up arms when you expand the roster, but you dont play smart and use em. And Im not talkin Shingo in the clutch. Save him for moppin up.
We had Hernandez,Bell,Hielman, Padilla,Ishii even. All experienced arms that have a job to do.
Let em do it, for good or bad.

If they succeed, we keep rolling.
if they fail we aint goin anywhere in the long run anyway.

This loss is MOST disappointing.

Im sure Bart Splunkerlagen is chuckling as I type.

[Elster88]

Call me pessimistic, but I don't think the choice of pitcher makes a difference here. Chipper Jones is Chipper Jones. Which means he beats the shit out of the Mets. Atlanta is Atlanta. Which means they don't lose to the Mets at home. The only hope we have of beating the Braves is after that prick retires.
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[Zvon]

DocTee wrote: ]Let's just face it: Beltran sucks. he aint livin up to his contract, but Im not the one payin him. Yes you are-- inflated ticket prices, parking and concessions go towards paying the moled one's contract.

you cant lay that just on beltran. If not him, someone else ,or afew would be eating up that $$$ and youd be payin the same prices.
Blame those prices on the state of the game.
Ownership/union/players as a whole.
Dont hang that on one guy who just played the existing market well.

[Elster88]

Ticket prices and parking prices rose before Beltran's contract was signed, I believe.
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[Guest Johnny Dickshot]

Nonsense. A couple of hits where we needed them and this game could have been a rout on our side. Not to mention Diaz doing more at the play at the plate, Trachsel realizing he had a DP if he wanted it, etc etc etc.

I think you have to place this loss, like so many others this year, on the fact that we just don't hit enough. No amount of strategy or magical players on the other team is going to change that.

[Elster88]

Johnny Dickshot wrote: Nonsense. A couple of hits where we needed them and this game could have been a rout on our side. Not to mention Diaz doing more at the play at the plate, Trachsel realizing he had a DP if he wanted it, etc etc etc. I think you have to place this loss, like so many others this year, on the fact that we just don't hit enough. No amount of strategy or magical players on the other team is going to change that.

Yeah, you're right. Forgive me for being pissed off and feeling like the Braves are unbeatable, I'm still hurting from this game.

[Elster88]

Johnny Dickshot wrote: Nonsense. A couple of hits where we needed them and this game could have been a rout on our side. Not to mention Diaz doing more at the play at the plate, Trachsel realizing he had a DP if he wanted it, etc etc etc. I think you have to place this loss, like so many others this year, on the fact that we just don't hit enough. No amount of strategy or magical players on the other team is going to change that.

OTOH, we can say something similar like that about every Met loss to the Braves. If this had happened, and this hadn't happened, etc. etc. And the Braves still seem to come out on top and Chipper still has a lot of Met-beatings to his credit.
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[Guest Johnny Dickshot]

Chipper is a future Hall of Famer and A. Jones has a shot too.

[Guest Rotblatt]

I've grown to fucking hate Willie, but I think JD is right not to blame him here. Starting Trachs off in the 8th wasn't a bad move, although I would've yanked him after Furcal reached. Maybe the first inning wouldn't have been as ugly had Trachs not been given 9 days off, however . . .

Sending Diaz was a good movie, too.

The real quibble with Willie for me is the lineup, meaning Beltran shouldn't be hitting third, but frankly, I'm so relieved that Cairo's not in there, I'm giving him a pass on it.

As for not hitting enough, JD, what game were you watching? Our guys batted .265 today with a .342 OBP. That's pretty damn good--much better than the Braves, in fact. The problem was that we didn't score runs, mostly due to some good defense by the Braves. And, of course, that all but two of our hits were singles.

We played good, but we got beat. It'll happen. This hurts a lot less than the times when Willie just blatantly fucks up, IMO.

Beltran makes me crabby. On his wannabe-sac fly, he saw about 6 fastballs in a row and couldn't do better than a 200 ft fly ball on the 7th? Weak. Give me David Wright or Cliff Floyd in that situation every goddamn time. He's going to have a lot of catchup to play the next 6 years.

And what was with Reyes swinging at the first pitch AGAIN with a runner on and no one out in the ninth?

Matsui looked good out there today. I hope Willie keeps him in.

Anyway, we looked pretty good out there today, if you ask me. We just needed a little luck. Or Beltran, circa 2004.

[Zvon]

yea, i think we all are a lil crabby and pissed over this one.

The Mets could have used some 'timely' hits in this one, so i hear ya JD.

The Braves did outplay us with the glove and the arm and the clutch hit, so i hear ya Rot.

If Chippers homer was a fly to the track, everything would be different right now, and chipper never just reaches the track vs the mets. He a professional MetKiller. Its his calling.

If you dont keep up with the jones's, and you dont shut down Francouer (not a factor 2day batwise), you aint gonna beat the braves.

If your starter gives you 7 innings of 2 run ball vs the braves and your not up by 2 yet, you probly aint gonna beat the Braves.

Theres many ways this could have gone, and i wish it went, but.........yep...
datsAbaseBALL

[Frayed Knot]

]Sending Diaz was a good movie, too.

Was it as good as 'Educating Rita', 'Finding Nemo', or 'Eating Raul'?

[Guest Edgy DC]

Not for nothing, but how is sending Diaz a good move, or movie?

[Guest Rockin' Doc]

I feel somewhat responsible for this defeat, not as responsible as the offense, but I didn't adequately educate the team about what awaited them in Atlanta. I will be sure to enlighten them before tomorrows duel between Pedro and Smoltz. Then, if they still don't score more than a pair of runs, it won't be on my head.

[Guest Edgy DC]

I was switching during the game to a riveting Glenn Ford western called 3:10 to Yuma, and switched back in time to see Chipper Jones rounding the bases. That's on me.

IMDB says a remake is due out this year. The original (1957) was written by Elmore Leonard. Who knew he went back that far?

[Guest Rotblatt]

Beltran's fly was shallow, but I think it's defensible to send Diaz there. He's got good speed and Franceour had to make at least a good throw to get him.


"Good" might be too strong a word, but I think it's defensible.

As for the movie version, it wasn't as good as Nemo, but much better than Chasing Amy. But the ending sucked.