IGT 08/30, Phillies at Mets

[Frayed Knot]

"I don;t think anyone around here cares, but Wiggy is 7-for-18 since the Pirates recalled him on August 23".

You're right.

[Guest ScarletKnight41]

The check was from the Phillies in the amount of $10,000. A nice contribution.

[Zvon]

that was a HUGE comeback win and yes, does make up for any one game we should have won earlier this season.
Guess every win from here on in does,lol.

The Phils pen melts down. Nice to see another pen do that for a change.
And we got to their 2 best.
this sets the tone for the whole series, cuz they used both madison and urbina. doubt they will tomorrow now, and if we get deeper into their pen, they are as done as a perdue oven roaster stuffer.
this is the way to start the 3 game set.

[Guest Rockin' Doc]

Now this was a great bed time read. Sweet dreams of Met victories to all.

[Guest holychicken]

I was at the Red Sox game tonight. Got to see Kazmir pitch for the second time this season.

The whole game the sox were behind and I was watching the greenmonster for the score of the Mets' game. To my dismay, they were behind the whole time as well.

Right when Trot Nixon hit the winning single in the 9th, while everyone was cheering I look over and the Mets are up 6-4.

It was a very joyous moment for me. :)

Then, on my way home, some drunk guy fell onto the lap of another person on the T and yelled "I'm wasted."

Ahh, it was a great night all round.

[Guest Johnny Dickshot]

I dedicate this post to the between-innings contest contestant who said "GO PHILLIES!" on the Diamond Vision when asked to give his answer.

I was in the Mezz with a guy from work and two other guys supposedly on biz but there for baseball.

The work guy is one of those guys with whom I have nothing in common except the Mets and we disagree on that, so I basically spent the whole game telling him how much Cairo was killing us and he was more about well, Matsui sucks, and it wasn't all that fun.

He did have a moment though. He predicted Juan Padilla would take off his cap before he reached the dugout after he pitched the 7th and he did! Watch next time: Juan Padilla ALWAYS removes his hat before entering the dugout after an inning. No other players do this. He is impossibly stylin' and richly deserved his first Met win.

Seo sure wasn't sharp. He gave up a hit to every starting player in the Philly lineup but for the pitcher.

I read here where Gary was fooling everyone with the HR calls (Great IGT btw). I think what happened was, with 3 hit in the first inning, there was just this feeling that balls in the air were just flying out, even if they weren't. And if Gary was taking his cues from the crowd noise, it's partially my fault.

If the buffet table isn't upside-down in the visiting clubhouse tonight I'd be surprised. If Kenny Lofton ever starts in center field again, I'd be surprised. If this wasn't the ugliest, most painful loss of the Philly season, I'd be surprised.

Don't know what the TV showed but what I saw on the home-plate play was a tremendous fake cutoff by Seo -- I don't know if Lofton saw it out of the corner of his eye and slowed up or what, but that was a play where nobody in the park thought we had a chance, and Seo faked out everyone who saw him -- so much so Utley stayed at first anyway.

Huge play anyway, and always fun to get a bonus ejection.

Castro is the man on a night Floyd couldn't be. How sexy! If ww hadn;t pulled it off it'd been an especially rough subway home.

[metirish]

Great report Dickshot, repeated showings on MSG proved Mex was correct, Lofton it seemed got his spikes stuck a bit sliding and that made his foot carry over the plate letting Castro tag him, great call by the ump.

[Frayed Knot]

Don't think the fake cut had anything to do with Lofton's running. (btw, Seo? I think it was Jacobs as pitchers rarely act as cutoffs - they should be backing up somewhere instead). The purpose of the fake of course is to keep the batter from advancing ... which it did.
Anyway, Lofton appeared to lose his gait a bit rounding 3rd but mainly just isn't as fast as he used to be - hence the lousy CF play.

Gary's calls were slightly misleading at first, but you could tell pretty quickly that they weren't going out. The Castro call however had a different feel to it.

[metirish]

Yeah the Castro call was a great Cohen call, his call on the Beltran homer was so so, it sounded like he forgot who was playinf CF for the Phillies, I didn't hear the other calls.

[Guest Johnny Dickshot]

Pretty certain Seo was the cutoff man: Right in front of the mound -- I didn't see whether he fooled Lofton, but he definitely fooled me and apparantly fooled Utley. That Lofton was out was just a huge surprise.

Phillies also couldn't have been happy with the call on Wright's steal, which appeared to me to be a blown hit-n-run with new DP specialist Jacobs. Anyway, close there too at least from the Mezz, but fortunately went our way.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Mex was wrong and wrong again disagreeing with that call through the first few replays. It wasn't until the third or fourth replay from a lower angle that he saw what I thought I saw all along, that Lofton didn't get his foot in there.

A wild pitch picked up Reyes, who didn't get the runner home from third with one out. And Castro picked up Floyd, who didn't deliver against a struggling righty with the sacks juiced.

Go team!

[Guest Beenso]

Just got back from the game. Thought there would be a bigger crowd, but there was still close to 35000 and it sure got pretty loud at some points. My highlight is the guy next to me calling Burrell a "Sissy Girl" and a "Pansy". A little heckling from some dweeb in the crowd is always fun. Anyway..what a great game to be at.

[metirish]

To be fair to Mex the first replays didn't give a good view of the play, and IIRC he called it and then MSG showed the replay that proved him correct.

[Guest Bret Sabermetric]

Elster88 wrote: What are his stats for the year again? Where would he play on this team?

Uh,how good do his stats have to be--O and D--to beat out Cairo/Matsui for the 2b job?

OE: Wiggy OPS .717, Cairo .634, Matsui .594. Do you really want to propose that they have some kind of defensive edge at 2B? The only worse defensive second basemen I've seen are Helen Keller and Stephen Hawking, though Hawking has a slight edge in range over Cairo.

Any further snotty rejoinders?

[Zvon]

Johnny Dickshot wrote: Seo faked out everyone who saw him -- so much so Utley stayed at first anyway.

^^this was a bigger fact that goes un-noticed. if utley did move up he more than likely would have scored that inning on Burrells single.

Still woulda left em one run short tho,hehe.
Great synopisis of your nite, Dick
Im watchin the replay now, cuz i missed the end of the game 1st time thru. Just about up to where i left off.

6th inning.
You would think that knowing whats gonna happen might delute it,

but it wont.
Im sure my local Phil phan phriends will be awful quiet tomorrow.
And Im gonna be awful tired.

its gonna be interesting to hear Harry Calas's call of the Castro Caboom.

[Zvon]

and since Im here, Ill post pictures from tonights game while i watch.
here a not so good view of the lofton play at the plate and that unbelieveably bad error by Bell on the pop up.

[Zvon]

hey, Cameron's alot better lookin since getting all that plastic surgery.

[Zvon]

even the Phils announcers thought Wright got his hand in there and was safe on the stolen base in the 8th. Rollins didnt.

That was close tho.

Didnt this game seem to have that playoff atmosphere?
I wonder If Dick felt that type of electricity at the Stadium.

Im in the 8th about to enjoy HiStOrY RePeAtInG ItSeLf.

[Zvon]

mannnnnnnnnnn, that was sweet.

Calas didnt raise his voice and sounded rather dejected.

[Valadius]

I was beginning to think I would have to come home from college for the Mets to win again.

Washington's great, by the way. I probably won't post as much now, being busy and all, but I'll stop by.

Thank God I don't have any MFY fans for roommates! I have a Pirates fan and a Red Sox fan.

[Guest Edgy DC]

My freshman year I lived in a suite with a great Pirate fan... and a dweeb, a sissy, a self-destructive drunk, and three total buttlick jerks.

I didn't understand how they plugged my profile and interests into a compooter and decided it would be best to place me with this crew, but it still depresses me to think about it. Thanks for bringing me down from this beautiful high with that painful memory.

[Guest OlerudOwned]

Looks like we're impressing some people, [url=http://www.nypost.com/sports/mets/52098.htm]namely Billy Wagner[/url]

[Elster88]

Bret Sabermetric wrote: ="Elster88"]What are his stats for the year again? Where would he play on this team? Uh,how good do his stats have to be--O and D--to beat out Cairo/Matsui for the 2b job? OE: Wiggy OPS .717, Cairo .634, Matsui .594. Do you really want to propose that they have some kind of defensive edge at 2B? The only worse defensive second basemen I've seen are Helen Keller and Stephen Hawking, though Hawking has a slight edge in range over Cairo. Any further snotty rejoinders?

I'd say that Kris Benson makes up for the difference in OPS. Or are you still convinced that it would have been just as easy to sign if he hadn't been brought over mid-season last year?

And since when is Wiggy an option at second?

[Elster88]

I thought you'd say first, not second.

[Valadius]

Well, he originally was a second baseman, IIRC. We had to plug him in at third because of Robbie Alomar & the lack of an established third bagger.

[Guest Bret Sabermetric]

Elster88 wrote: are you still convinced that it would have been just as easy to sign if he hadn't been brought over mid-season last year? Totally. And if not him, as I've explained many times, one of the numerous just-as-good pitchers for whom Benson set the freaking market value. It amazes me how Mets fans blithely and repeatedly acknowledge that Benson set the market for a bunch of pitchers more or less his equal, meaning that he got top FA dollar, and there were other equally sound options if the Mets had failed to sign him as a FA, and then turn around and insist that the Benson deal was anything other than a way stupid attempt to compete in 2004 with an inept and unqualified team. And since when is Wiggy an option at second? Since the Mets have been playing two utterly incompetent fielders, at much more salary and much less growth potential and much less baseball sense, in his place.

[Guest Anonymous]

Wiggy has growth potential? Pass that glass pipe over here.

[Willets Point]

Welcome A-Bordick Annoying Doo Doo Head. I have to appreciate the honesty in your handle.

[Valadius]

When did Wiggy go caveman?

[Elster88]

Bret Sabermetric wrote: Benson set the market for a bunch of pitchers more or less his equal

Who are these pitchers, please? See the Benson Bunch thread before saying that all of these pitchers are created equally. Maybe JD can provide an update.