Incredibles

[Guest cooby]

Today, my husband won this DVD at a picnic, and of course we haven't watched it yet, but I remember a lot of you like it.

Comments, if you please?

[Guest ScarletKnight41]

It was very well done and entertaining. And you're getting this from someone who OD'd on animated films around five or so years ago - I almost always pass on them, and I usually can't stand the ones I see these days. With that said, The Incredibles was a lot of fun.

After you've seen the film, go to the special features and watch Mr. Incredible and Friends with the commentary. Trust me - it's friggin' hilarious

[Elster88]

I liked it too, and my plug is for the "Jack-Jack Attack". I believe it was on the second disc, too.

[Benjamin Grimm]

It's still the best Fantastic Four movie ever made.

[seawolf17]

I'd give it a seven or an eight if I could.

[Guest cooby]

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[Theoldmole]

Not the best of the recent Pixar products, but awfully good. Elastigirl as mom/housewife is the best.

[soupcan]

Awesome. Loved it. Samuel Jackson was great. Holly Hunter was great.

Great story.

Can't say enough good things about it.

[Guest cooby]

We should have watched this tonight while waiting for the 9 o'clock game!

But Mr. cooby went to bed early anyway. Big day at the picnic, and all.

[Elster88]

5 stars.

[Guest Rockin' Doc]

Our entire family enjoyed The Incredibles when we saw it during it's theater run. I gave it a 4 stars (since 4.5 wasn't an option).

[Guest cooby]

We watched this Friday evening. I gave it a four...

Our favorite part was where they were arguing about which exit to get off because it reminded us of ourselves in NYC last month. Well no actually, in NJ last month

[Vic Sage]

i liked it alot, too... but if you give 5 Stars to the INCREDIBLES, what rating do you give to CITIZEN KANE, CASABLANCA, WIZARD OF OZ, SULLIVAN'S TRAVELS and THE GOOD, THE BAD & THE UGLY?

i think we're devaluing the 5 star rating.
INCREDIBLES is a solid 4.

[RealityChuck]

One of the better animated films of the past few years. Lets give credit where credit is due: Brad Bird, after The Iron Giant and this is clearly the best director of animated films after Nick Park.

[RealityChuck]

Vic Sage wrote: i liked it alot, too... but if you give 5 Stars to the INCREDIBLES, what rating do you give to CITIZEN KANE, CASABLANCA, WIZARD OF OZ, SULLIVAN'S TRAVELS and THE GOOD, THE BAD & THE UGLY? i think we're devaluing the 5 star rating. INCREDIBLES is a solid 4.

I give the first three five and Sullivan's Travels four (no where near as good as Miracle of Morgans Creek or The Great McGinty.) Haven't see the other.

If it were a ten-point scale, I'd give it a nine, but since The Incredibles is the best computer animated film ever, it deserves a five.

[Guest Edgy DC]

I'm still wondering what Sullivan's Travels is doing on that list.

[Vic Sage]

If it were a ten-point scale, I'd give it a nine, but since The Incredibles is the best computer animated film ever, it deserves a five.

But a numerical rating seems to me an absolute evaluation, not a relative one. "Its a 4 star movie, but i gave it 5 stars because its better than any other Computer-animated movie" seems like strange reasoning to me.

I think THE CROW is the best adaptation of a comicbook ever put on film, and i'd give it 5 stars in my personal pantheon of favorite movies, but it doesn't "deserve a five". It probably deserved no more than 3 stars.

As for GOOD, BAD & UGLY, i threw that in to be sarcastic because, while i think its one of the greatest movies of all time, and certainly the best "spaghetti western" ever, i don't think i could honestly say that such a view reflects any critical consensus but my own. It, too, is more of a 3-star film.

As for SULLIVAN'S TRAVELS, personally i would put MIRACLE OF MORGAN'S CREEK ahead of it (GREAT McGINTY, too, come to think of it) in terms of personal preference, but the critical consensus has evolved around SULLIVAN as Sturges' "best" movie, presumably because of the "social relevancy" component of its message.
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But, like i said, if you give INCREDIBLES 5 stars, what rank do you give other films, even animated films, that have stood the test of time and have come to be accepted as "deserving" of a 5-star rating? If, in 20 years, INCREDIBLES is viewed with the kind of passion you have for it (I loved it, too), then 5 stars would seem appropriate. But until then, it strikes me as the "fallacy of the new", where the last positive experience a person had is more highly valued than an earlier experience, even one MORE positive.

Perspective. This is all i'm saying.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Screw critical consensus. Your rating should drive consensus, not yield to it.

[Vic Sage]

fine, but my rating should be based on my overall sense of historical perspective, not based on my immediate reaction to the last movie i've seen that i really liked.

I really, really like THE INCREDIBLES. Is it one of the best movies i've ever seen? No. then, why would i give it the very highest possible rating... the same rating i WOULD give to one of the best movies ever? And, unless it's one of the best movies YOU'VE ever seen, why would YOU give it 5 stars?

I'm open to anybody's discussion of what makes THE INCREDIBLES 5-star movie, but i just don't think that because its the best of a particular genre of movie, it necessarily follows that its amongst the best movies ever.

[The best movie i've ever seen where you can see Jane Fonda's tits is BARBARELLA. woo hoo! a 5-star movie! lets get that poll going!]

If, over the course of the next few decades, INCREDIBLES becomes merely a cinematic footnote in animation, surpassed by any number of other animated films, wouldn't that rating drop? And if, at some future time where enough the movie has been given an opportunity to be judged by future generations of movie goers, it turns out (like KANE and WIZARD OF OZ) that it is one for the ages, then a 5-star rating would be appropriate.

But i'm going to wait until i have some distance, some perspective, before i judge ANY movie made in the last 10-20 years as being amongst the best movies ever.

When AFI came out with its "top 100 of all time", in 1998, it included such then-recent films like FARGO, at the expense of many a deserving classic. I thought it was stupid. How do you judge a movie made a few years ago as amongst the best ever? As time has gone on, FARGO isn't discussed that much anymore. I doubt it would make the list if they were to make a new one today.

Fallacy of the new.

time will tell.

Greatness is a judgement of history.

[Elster88]

Vic Sage wrote: [The best movie i've ever seen where you can see Jane Fonda's tits is BARBARELLA. woo hoo! a 5-star movie! lets get that poll going!]

I'll be heading to Blockbuster after work.