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[Guest Edgy DC]

Well, that's not exactly the whole picture now, is it?

You know, as deep as his power drought has been, he's out-hitting Ramon Hernandez by most standards, don't you?

[Guest KC]

D n r, d n r - that's my motto!

Plus Ramon isn't on my CBS Sportsline Whammo Blammo Roto Challenge League team.

[nymr83]

where did those 3 runs come from? can't this bullpen do anything right?

[Guest Edgy DC]

Yes, but Danny Graves pitched them into a save situation.

[willpie]

Why, they came from Danny Graves, of course! And color me shocked that a cast-off relief pitcher from a last-place team coughed up so many runs.

[Guest Edgy DC]

David Wright comes up clean with the DP grounder to end the game. But Matsui is down hard...

Damn, they're carrying him off.

[Guest KC]

The skeptic in me thinks it looks like Kendall was a little too eager to hit
that leg. Like F X Healy said, hard slide yes, questionable slide yes too.

With the Mets sliding six something games off the division lead, this was
a huge win. Off to Warshington.

[Guest Edgy DC]

I'm really curious if the Mets interpret this as dirty. Sort of ambigous. Is he allowed to swing his spikes that high? I guess so. Hard to throw too many stones when Wright got called out for sliding into centerfield on a takeout against the Braves.

[Guest KC]

I saw it as more like taking his knee to where Matsui fouled the ball off his
leg - prolly not totally intentional and tough to think Kendall is smart enough
to know which leg to go after on the fly. Mets won't play the A's for another
33 years so who cares what the Mets think.

And must you always be the stones throwing police?

[nymr83]

is it dirty? maybe. will these teams see each other again in 2005, 2006, or 2007? no. the A's picked a perfect time to be dirty if dirty it actually is.

[Guest Bret Sabermetric]

If you want to avoid getting spiked, leave the bag early, or don't even try to make the DP. It's your choice to stay in and risk getting injured, and every half-decent second baseman does it without complaint.

Same with HBPs--you can avoid them simply by standing well off the plate, at a considerable risk to your batting average. To take the risk, and then bitch that they're playing dirty, is infantile.

[Guest martin]

are you saying that if you stay in and try to make the double play that all bets are off, and there is no such thing as a dirty play?

[nymr83]

Bullshit.
a double-play break up is "dirty" if it is illegal, that is to say if the runner can't reach the bag. It is also dirty if you are trying to hurt someone and not simply breakup the play...usually you can't tell the difference but it is ocassionally obvious.
a HBP is dirty if its head-hunting.

[Guest KC]

Sal, er I mean Mr. Sabermetric, pines for the day when the game was played by real
men ... and there are none on the Mets. Not to speak for him, I wouldn't do that.

[Guest Bret Sabermetric]

I'd guess the vast majority of "dirty plays" (90%? More?) are judged dirty by fans of the team they're done against. IOW, if we saw the same play as this afternoon's filthy takeout slide on Kaz, but on two neutral teams, most of us would go, "Eh, no biggie, happens all the time, yyybbb."

And if it were a Met plowing into some hapless fucker on the DP, 90% of us would be drooling, "Way to play aggressive ball! Team spirit! Fuck 'em where they breathe! Take no prisoners! Let 'em know they been in a game!" yyybbb...

[Theoldmole]

Do we know how Kaz is?

[Guest Edgy DC]

]And must you always be the stones throwing police?

You see, I can't write SQL.

[Guest KC]

>>>Do we know how Kaz is?<<<

Probably sitting on a jet with ice all wrapped up in ace bandages and they
know as much as we do.

>>>You see, I can't write SQL.<<<

Not sure what you mean, but I think Yance has us all trumped there.

[Guest Edgy DC]

Well, as far as discouraging using the forum for cheap, gratuitious, and illogical abuse, I think I've taken that as part of an admin role. It makes me look at a humourless pain in the ass, but I'm not. I shouldn't play it out in good threads, though.

As far as coming out against the Mets crying foul against Ken Doll, Sal seems to have me trumped.

[Guest KC]

>>>Well, as far as discouraging using the forum for cheap, gratuitious, and illogical abuse, I think I've taken that as part of an admin role. It makes me look at a humourless pain in the ass, but I'm not. I shouldn't play it out in good threads, though.

As far as coming out against the Mets crying foul against Ken Doll, Sal seems to have me trumped.<<<

Edge, all I said was I didn't know what you meant about SQL. If you're ar-
guing with me it's a one sided argument.

[Guest Edgy DC]

No, I'm using your question of "And must you always be the stones throwing police?" as an opportunity to come out.

I feel so free.

[Guest KC]

Stay Free (Strummer/Jones)

[Guest Edgy DC]

Nice to go to bed at a decent hour.

[Guest holychicken]

Everyone will be happy to know that my leg has made a full recovery.

I have also decided to continually marinate myself so that next time I chew it off, it will have a bit more zing.

[Guest Spacemans Bong]

Yesterday was fun.

Good Mets fan turnout for all three days.